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Why We Need 7% Mortgage Interest Rates To Fuel Housing Recovery

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with Cordon Real Estate 01370983

Question of the Year:  How can the housing market recover?

As we learned in the 6th grade, Step 1 of the Scientific Method is:  Define The Problem.  Unfortunately, many seek to place blame rather than simply say what is wrong and find a solution, so I'm going to disconnect blame and cause and simply state - in my opinion - what went wrong and how it may be fixed.

The housing crisis is a product of an unequal balance between affordability and home values.  That inbalance was caused by a number of knee-jerk "corrections" that may or may not have been well-intentioned, but as many eloquent philosophers decry - "it is what it is."

Let's re-cap how we got to "is."  Over the last 40 to 50 years, home prices rose to the highest levels in history.  Fueled by alternating periods of economic prosperity and recession, home prices fluctuated up and down, but mostly up, driven by affordability amongst the masses.  The average Joe Homebuyer could pretty much afford the average house.  Average wages grew in balance with average home prices.  That bell curve we studied in school told us that activity on the low end of the curve/housing market and the activity on the high end of the curve/housing market had little influence on the massive amount of activity that comprises the center of the curve.  In other words, low end and high end home sales are a drop in the bucket compared to the number of home sales that fall within the range of the "average home."  These are the homes that define the market.

Somewhere within this process of wages growing and home values rising, they got disconnected and out of balance.  Government agencies and private lenders determined that "home ownership is good" and began to fiddle with the natural balance of wages and prices.  Rather than allowing home prices to track wages in sync, they began offering "special programs" that would allow more buyers into the average home market who earned below the average wage.  Mortgage lenders, under heavy government regulation and with full government approval, implemented gimmicks to increase the number of home buyers, such as zerio down payment loans, interest only payments, negative amortization loans, and amortization periods of 40 and 50 years.  These gimmicks generated an influx of new buyers who placed additional upward pressure on average home prices and fueled a frenzy of new home construction.  In the end, the gimmicks were found to be unsustainable as borrowers defaulted by the thousands, then millions.  A return to normal-or-tighter lending criteria led to a massive reduction in the number of qualified buyers, resulting in a massive decrease in demand that led to a massive decrease in home values.  It is what it is.

Back to the question:  How can the housing market recover?  Simply stated, the housing market will recover when average wages and average home prices are once again in balance.  That means that either wages (and employment rates) need to grow fast or housing prices need to continue falling.  My money is on housing prices remaining flat or falling until wages catch up.

Something else is needed to fuel recovery:  liquidity in mortgage lending.  Private lenders are not going to invest in home mortgages until they can make a return on their money that is equal to, or better, than other investments available to them.  Lenders use interest rate adjustments to mitigate risk, therefore lending at 7% would enable lenders to loosen borrowing criteria to reasonable standards so that more qualified buyers could enter the market.  These additional buyers could absorb many of the homes listed for sale at below-market prices, thus increasing the demand for average homes priced in sync with average wages.  7% may not be the magic number, but something in that range is likely to stimulate private money back into mortgage lending, thus providing a reasonable opportunity for the average Joe Homebuyer to purchase the average home.

I yield the soap box, but welcome comments...

Lori Bowers
La Quinta, CA
The Lori Bowers Group

This is a very interesting idea. I was recently in Palo Alto and my friends said the market there is very good?

Sep 25, 2011 06:11 AM
Allen 2222
Austin, TX

Hi John - I'm curious to see what kind of comments you get, but expect this one to generate a lot of discussion. I'll hit the "suggest" button! 

I do think that people aren't ready for homeownership if it comes too easily - meaning if they don't have any skin in the game (i.e. low- or no-downpayments), among other things.

I also think the housing boom brought a lot of low-quality housing that had minatenance issues that marginally-qualified purchasers weren't prepared to handle financially.

Sep 25, 2011 06:15 AM
John Souerbry
Cordon Real Estate - Fairfield, CA
Homes, Land & Investments

Lori #1 - Yes, Palo Alto is back in the "multiple offer" and "boy I can't believe you paid $X for that house!" kind of market.  Google my current listing "595 Maybell", a 2.4 acre lot.  We got multiple offers at or above the listing price of $16M (we're in contract development with the winner).  Employment is way up, so are home values.

Alison #2 - I think you're right, in a rush to build to meet demand a lot of sub-standard product was put on the market.  The lawyers are benefiting from the class action suits, but the low income buyer is a bit helpless for the most part.  Thanks for the suggest.  I hope your painter read your previous blog.

Sep 25, 2011 06:26 AM
Anthony Gilbert
Issaquah, WA
Real Estate SEO

Hi John - This is interesting. I too was just discussing this topic last night... the negative impacts of interest rates being too low, which got me a couple of funny looks. It's not rocket science... private lenders are not stupid. They have a choice where they place their investment dollars, and at the moment, it certainly isn't going to be in residential real estate.

Sep 25, 2011 06:47 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

A very myopic view IMO.  As usual it ignores the facts on the ground most importantly that the home buying pool has been reduced by about 25%. 

What would 7% mortgage rates do to the home buying pool. 

It's no help to the industry for investors to be willing to invest because they make a good profit if the buying pool isn't increased.

Sep 25, 2011 07:35 AM
John Souerbry
Cordon Real Estate - Fairfield, CA
Homes, Land & Investments

Lenn #5 - thank you for supporting my point!  7% interest rates would greatly increase the pool of buyers because that rate would come with an appropriate loosening of qualifying standards.  As we all know, when lending criteria loosen, default rates increase.  It's a standard curve taught in every business school and applicable to every industry.  A 7% mortgage rate would not only offer an incentive to investors to lend on home loans using criteria that would increase the pool of buyers, but it would also provide lenders with the cash reserves needed to cover the accompanying increase in default losses, thus mitigating their risk.  A win-win-win for buyers, lenders, and those who make a buck working in the real estate industry.

Sep 25, 2011 08:02 AM
The Somers Team
The Somers Team at KW Philadelphia - Philadelphia, PA
Delivering Real Estate Happiness

John - I strongly disagree.  I think killing the buyer with higher rates and ultimately klling an already weak housing market is the dumbest idea I have heard this year.

However, I will say you are on the track for something here... I do think there should be more loan programs out there for folks that cannot get loans, there are many well qualified self-employed folks who struggle to get the basic FHA or standard conventional loan that meets Fannie Mae guidelines.  To have a few more programs with a higher rate for qualified individuals does make sense.  And not for nothing, there should be subprime loans (GASP!!!!) again for those buyers that meet the criteria and underwriting standards and are willing to pay a higher rate for the risk.  That would make sense. Subprime worked for a long long long time as did loans for self employed folks before the underwriting standards went invisible.

 

Sep 25, 2011 11:07 AM
Brenda Mullen
RE/MAX Associates - San Antonio, TX
Your San Antonio TX Real Estate Agent!!

I don't want to call anybody's idea stupid I just don't think this will solve anything.  We have a large amount of people who can't meet the qualifications now much less raising the stakes even higher for them so I am unsure of how this would really work.  

I do agree with you however that housing prices will need to balance between wage earners and to do that the economy will need to recover with more job opportunities for people.  I also like some of Christopher's ideas above.  

I hit the suggest button and can't wait to see how this plays out.

Sep 25, 2011 11:35 AM
John Souerbry
Cordon Real Estate - Fairfield, CA
Homes, Land & Investments

Interest rates never have - and never will - kill a housing market.  I bought my first house with a 12% first mortgage in the early 1980's, and I had good credit, savings and income.  Rates below 8% are abnormal, look at interest rate history.  What will kill a housing market are lending criteria that are so restrictive that very, very few buyers qualify.  That is what we have today.  Rates are the lowest in a century and there is very little improvement in the housing market - lowering interest rates has not increased the number of qualified buyers.  Loosening lending requirements and having more $$$ in the lending pool is the only way to increase the number of buyers in the market.  Just my opinion.

Sep 25, 2011 01:15 PM
Mike Russell
Mike Russell Real Estate Group - Overland Park, KS
Overland Park Kansas Real Estate

I would say that the low interest rates are helping a lot of people, those who are employed and smart are not only refinancing but they are fixing up their current house to stay for the long haul. Short term thinking & planning is on the outs and long planning is the new norm. 

We need to groom the next generation of home buyers, not create them out of thin air like we did in 2003-2007. We are so spoiled in this country that we don't believe we have to wait to get something or build up to it. We should just be given a loan because we deserve a house and frankly it is good for the country.

If this problem is going to turn around it will have nothing to do with artificial inflation, it will just make common sense. Buying a home has historically been a good investment and if interest rates at 4% isn't good enough reason then what is?

Sep 26, 2011 03:03 AM
John Souerbry
Cordon Real Estate - Fairfield, CA
Homes, Land & Investments

Michael #10 - I agree, low rates can help a lot of people save money, but I don't think they are the biggest influence on qualifying or not qualifying to buy.  My mortgage lenders tell me credit score, down payment, and pre-mortgage DTI are the biggest factors under today's guidelines.  Anyone seeing anything different?

Sep 26, 2011 04:37 AM
Kim Dove
Watson Realty Corp - Jacksonville, FL
Realtor - Jacksonville FL

John, that is a very interesting opinion. While I don't agree at all, I still think that it is interesting.

Sep 26, 2011 02:13 PM
Maya Swamy
Funds Available - Long Beach, CA
Ph.D. Long Beach, CA - fundsavailable.com

Frankly it is rare I disagree with a post more. But I just touch on two things. The bell curve or the binomial distribution of data is not a predictive tool. It simply says most data of any kind fall in a bell shaped pattern. The height and width of the curve describe how widely or narrowly the data is scattered.

Second in mortgage approvals it is not the pre-mortgage DTI that is used. To put it simply most lenders are saying that you can use upto 45% of your income to pay all your debts including mortage. The higher the interest rate the greater your mortgage payment. This means your DTI goes up and fewer people will qualify for a mortgage. This will mean a smaller not larger buyer pool.

 

Sep 26, 2011 03:55 PM
John Souerbry
Cordon Real Estate - Fairfield, CA
Homes, Land & Investments

Kim #12 - Thanks for checking in!  All comments are welcome.

Maya #13 - Thanks for making a couple good points, but I'm going to have to disagree with your disagreements.  Regarding your first point, I never implied a bell curve would be used as a predictive tool in the situation I described.  I used it to describe "is" - something occuring in the present.  My point is that highest number of homes in a particular market will lie closer to the median price than they will the lowest or highest prices of homes in that market.  In other words, the biggest number of homes will have a greater influence in overall market value than the relatively fewer homes that lie on the outer edges of a value/quantity curve.  Your second point is correct - DTI includes all sorts of numbers, including the mortgage payment.  Unfortunately, I wasn't talking about total DTI, I was talking about a borrower's DTI *before* adding the house payment, which, according to my mortgage guys/gals, has had the greatest influence on mortgage disqualifications recently.  The effects of interest rate changes are relatively minimal.  For example, the payment for a 30 year fixed rate loan at 7% is $2,2661 per month.  At 4.5% the payment drops to $2,027, a difference of $234.  Anyone would agree that $234 per month could put a lot of would-be borrowers over the lending guideline, but it doesn't hold a candle to two car payments at $250/month each, credit card payments of $400/month, etc. etc. etc.  My point, which was pressed upon me by my friends who do mortgages every day (I don't...), is that interest rates aren't what are disqualifying most borrowers, it's their other spending that needs to be controlled if they want to qualify for the home they want.  Thanks again for your comments, all are welcome and I truly appreciate your contribution to the discussion.

Sep 26, 2011 05:36 PM
John Juarez
The Medford Real Estate Team - Fremont, CA
ePRO, SRES, GRI, PMN

John,

You picked 7% out of thin air. Lenders can make plenty of money if their funding costs are 1-3% and they charge 3-5% on the loans. If the cost of funds to lenders rises the cost of loans will also rise.

Sep 26, 2011 05:42 PM
John Souerbry
Cordon Real Estate - Fairfield, CA
Homes, Land & Investments

John #15 - Yup, I did just pick a number.  My point is that the precise number doesn't matter much, it just needs to be high enough to attract more lenders to the market and to cover the default rate that will increase as lending guidelines are loosened.  That loosening is what will create more buyers.  I would have gotten into how there will be no housing recovery without more jobs, but I think my blog ran too long as it was.  Thanks for the comment.

Sep 26, 2011 05:56 PM
Chris Ann Cleland
Long and Foster Real Estate - Gainesville, VA
Associate Broker, Bristow, VA

I think whenever interest rates go up, because they have been held artificially low for so bloody long, that buyers will shrivel up and disappear.

Sep 27, 2011 03:06 AM
John Souerbry
Cordon Real Estate - Fairfield, CA
Homes, Land & Investments

Chris #17 - Rates have been twice what they are today and lots of real estate was still sold.  The difference between the higher rates of yesterday and today's conditions is that borrowing qualifications are now so tough and unemployment is so high.  That's why I make the point that a rise in interest rates must be accompanied by a loosening of lending guidelines so that more people can qualify to borrow.  Raising rates alone certainly would decrease the number of buyers in the market.

Sep 27, 2011 05:30 AM
Tim Maitski
Atlanta Communities Real Estate Brokerage - Atlanta, GA
Truth, Excellence and a Good Deal

John,  To many this seems like the opposite of what one would expect.  I'm not certain about it myself but this is something that Peter Schiff has been saying.  And if you Google "Peter Schiff was right" you'll see that he was pretty spot on with predicting the housing bubble. 

I know that I wouldn't lend long term money at 4%.  Who in their right mind would?  So I can see that a lot of money isn't going into mortgages because the return just isn't there.  So I do agree with you premise. 

Sep 27, 2011 07:32 AM
Maya Swamy
Funds Available - Long Beach, CA
Ph.D. Long Beach, CA - fundsavailable.com

John, I have been thinking your post over ever since I commented and concluded I agree with your arguments if not the precise number. Mortgages must yield the investor at least as much as tax free bonds before they will put their money in them. Specially when they are generally tied to these low returns for 30 years. Your thinking was deeper than mine.

Oct 03, 2011 09:42 AM