Welcome to the often unconventional world of REO sales.... 

Although there's a lot of talk, bargaining, countering, and jabbering, in the end there are usually only two principal documents: the original offer, and the bank's signed addendum to the original offer that's completed only after all the crosstalk and e-mails, and bank's web postings have been exhausted and the bank settles on what the deal will look like for the bank. 

Archibaldwants to purchase a home that's owned by a bank (an REO), and is priced to move.  Still, Archibald thinks the price could be lower so he asks their "buyer's agent" to draw up an "Offer" that's $20,000 below the listing price.

I am the listing agent for the bank and I receive the offer and present it to my bank: ENTER THE WORLD OF REO CONTRACTING. 

The "buyer's agent" phones me a day later asking about the offer.  I tell her I haven't heard back from the bank.  She counters, but there's an expiration time to accept the offer.  I counter by asking if Archibald is already pre-approved, has proof of funds, and has a pre-approval notice from his lender?  Next, I remind the agent, politely, of course, that the REO transaction is on the bank's time! 

My contact person at the bank looks at the offer and sends me an e-mail a few days later countering the offer by adding $15,000 back to the price.  I let Archibald's agent know the bank's "verbal" response to his offer(when she sighs I suggest he has made $5,000 on the "verbal" transaction, and like most other REOs, the house is priced to be a bargain for prudent buyers shopping the REO market), but it's not enough for Archibald.

Archibald tells his agent to counter the counter by splitting the difference between the remaining $15,000, and asking that the fence be repaired, and the garage door be re-painted.  The bank chuckles and says they'll give up another $3,000, pay the closing costs, do NO REPAIRS, and Archibald must use the Title Company of the bank's choice because the bank uses Title Companies with expertise in title issues and foreclosures particular to bank-owned properties!

It's STILL looking pretty good for Archibald and the bank and (as well as we two Realtors)...and nothing since the first offer has been written in contract form, nor signed and dated.

The bank's addendum is the final document that closes the deal, and to which everyone affixes their signatures. 

Footnotes:1) Depending on the financing of the REO for the new buyer, the bank may make some repairs as a requirement of the financing (FHA and VA, for example); 2) The bank may offer to purchase a Home Warranty for the first year as well to sweeten a deal.

All in all, REOs can be a great investment and home ownership opportunity for persons.  Most agents listing REOs are generally experienced and seasoned in the REO world.  Everyone profits from a good offer!

 
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12 Comments on Anatomy of a Murder -- Oops, a REO Offer & Acceptance

OCT
27
2007
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I love selling REOs.  Sometimes the buyers get a bit itchy, but if they will be patient, they can usually get a good price.

Time limit on a REO contract??  Ha!!!

I've sold a lot of them and, even though everything is verbal, they always close.

Good job.

2:45pm • #1
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Thanks for sharing this. Good information.
3:28pm • #2
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The biggest thing to remember on REO contracts is that the deadline on the offer is not material to the lender. The common response is do you still wwant to buy it?
3:40pm • #3
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I have tried to break into REOs, but to no avail...I tried to get numbers for the banks holding offices, just to be stymied and held off.....

Can you help, Terry?

I would LOVE to help my buyers get great deals on bank owned properties....

7:34pm • #4
OCT
29
2007

I am DIRECTLY connected to SOURCE w/Bulk REO, MTN, & BG packages. I do not have time to waste and I do not intend to waste yours. Contact me ASAP, I make things happen!

Ronnie

ddminvestmentgroup@gmail.com

Ronnie
10:15am • #5
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Aren't REO's fun?  It is amazing how when I started doing NOD, Short Sale, and REO seminars a year ago people would fill the room, wanting to spend an enormous amount of time spinning their wheels with red tape.  Oh well, they are part of life...
10:26am • #6
FEB
06
2008

I have a question i put in a offer on a reo countrywide home,  the listing agent send eveything at 2pm,  4pm countrywide time eastcost.  i have not hear anything yet, do you think if they did not like my offer they would have told the listing agent  by now.?

David
1:10pm • #7
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Hi David -- In truth, the bank could take up to seven days to respond to your offer.  There are a lot of factors they will consider.  It's not like making an offer to a seller in a normal transaction where you might get a response in hours or a day.  Hang in there and wait until next week and check back with the listing agent.  Good luck.  Let me know if you need anything else.
9:53pm • #8
JUN
30
2008

Hi my name is joshua, I work closly with a group that deals directly with a bank and is looking for qualified buyers who can prove they have money.  Their protocol is very simple NCND, MFA, and a bank statement with the account number missing or scratched out.  After this is done then homeland security makes sure your funds are legitimate, following this the bank does their internal vesting then your buyer will directly get a phone call from the bank.  If this sounds like something you are interested in please feel free to e-mail me and we can set up a time to talk.  My e-mail is josh@nwlsusa.com .

Min. order 50million-max order depending on what is currently avialible, will change depending on inventory

If this protocal does not meet your personal needs as a buyer or a buyers mandate, please let me know I also work with a gentleman who can pull product from a compiler.

Joshua Loeb

J. loeb inc.

josh@nwlsusa.com

818-428-1059

8:37pm • #9
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Hmmmm?  It's a bit incredulous, Joshua.

9:44pm • #10
AUG
06
Hola ;) Yesterday I was browsing and came here, still wanna come back ;) Would like to chat ;). I am from England and know bad English, tell me right I wrote the following sentence: "Other applicants get cash advances in order to pay off unexpected bills or to splurge while on vacation." Regards :( Samson.
Samson
5:31am • #11
NOV
29

One thing you forgot to mention. I also deal in REO's and had a very upset agent on my hands when  her buyer low balled a house that was already $50,000 under any home in the nieghborhood. It only needed painting and carpets. No holes, no major mechanical.

Buyers agent submits offer for $30,000 below asking price. I submitted offer, bank countered at full price, I let buyers agent know that bank has countered and sent her email confirming bank countered figures. She gets back to buyer that then brings his offer "UP" by $1000 more than his original offer, well in the meantime, a real buyer that knows a good bargain put in a contract for FULL PRICE cash offer....go figure....I let buyer #1's agent know that this is now a multiple offer situation and her buyer needs to give highest and best right now.  HE SUBMITS CONTRACT FOR $10,000 LESS than original offer!!!!!!!  I let her know ,once bank made an obvious decision on which buyer he was going to take, and it was not her offer, she was furious with me. Telling me that I never submitted her offer, and I had an IN HOUSE buyer all along, and I would not sell the house to her buyer because I was double dipping!!!!!!  She filed charges against me and got her Broker involved saying I was unethical...Later when the deal closed with offer number 2....come to find out, buyer number 2's agent was from buyer #1's  OWN real estate office....I was not double dipping, I was not the buyer agent.

But moral to story is, while the low baller bickers back and forth with bank for a good deal, there is always someone else that understands that it was already a good deal and swoops in there at full price.

2:10pm • #12

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