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FEMA Reshapes The Landscape of Our Business...

By
Real Estate Broker/Owner with Brooks Prime Properties Wichita Falls Texas

I received two calls today from my blogs about FEMA from local residents! It is a double edged sword since I am reporting and explaining bad news. August 16, 2011 the new FEMA flood maps became official.

FEMA MAPS REVISEDAs of today, Wells Fargo customers are receiving their Flood Certification Notices. Others may be too. The new maps are now replacing the old and the perimeters are much, much different. Homes that once showed in the "safe zone" or the "C zone" are now showing in the "A zone". What does this mean? This means that their property has just been bumped into the "YOU HAVE TO PAY EXTRA FOR FLOOD INSURANCE" zone. All maps have been re-zoned to include many more properties and acres in the 100 year flood zone.

A nice local gentleman said, "hi, I came across your blog on FEMA and the new Flood Zones and I have some questions. I received a notice from my lender, Wells Fargo today stating that I am in the "A zone". I read your blog where it said you were getting quotes for as much as $20,000 per year for properties that are in this zone". I explained that I managed to find a man that could cover the home for as little as $569.00 per year with a request for grandfathering.

Problem is, the gentleman I spoke to today purchased his property in 2009 and I am not certain how long you must be in your property before you can become grandfathered.

Oh "sigh". I was afraid of this. All chaos is about to break loose.

This is going to cause a great many FORECLOSURES AND SHORT SALES. People are not going to be able to afford this kind of money on or near the water.FEMA MAPS REVISED

For all new closings: A lender must provide a notice of SFHA (special flood hazard area) to a purchaser within ten days of the closing. If the borrower does not comply by purchasing the insurance within 45 days the Federal Government will require the lender to force and choose insurance for the homeowner. This price on the insurance can be exorbitant!

ADVICE: If you feel your property is above the water level of the dam then I recommend a survey. It is called an Elevation Certificate and runs around $350.00 in this area. Most surveyors are equipped with laser equipment that can handle the job. Once you receive your survey with the elevation, photos, legal description you will turn this in to FEMA. If it shows a mistake then you will be re-zoned. This could help on your price.

Be sure and check with your insurance provider and then check with the FEMA certified insurance providers for separate quotes. The quotes can vary  by a huge amount of money. My personal recommendation is:

Gary Blome
Fax 800-456-9830

I spent days looking for him so feel free to save yourself a lot of time and trouble and give Gary a call.
Good luck to all.
 
This is another change that will be reshaping the entire landscape of our business.
Deb Brooks
Brooks Prime Properties Wichita Falls Texas - Wichita Falls, TX

Hello Everyone!

I was surprised to find all these new comments when I logged in today. I want to thank you for them. I am going to try and answer each of you to the best of my ability. Several have asked for other links and I will do this first.

Joette, you may have misunderstood. It is in fact a requirement to disclose the fact the home is in the flood zone. The client will know before closing as the Title company will do a map search before insuring the property with Title Insurance. It will be one of their requirements too.

Off to find the links.

Oct 06, 2011 09:18 AM
Deb Brooks
Brooks Prime Properties Wichita Falls Texas - Wichita Falls, TX

This is my original FEMA post when I was just finding out I had a listing in the flood zone. It was a shocker to me and we lost the sale over it.

FEMA And The New Flood Zone Creates Havoc In Real Estate

YOU SHOULD FIND THE COMMENTS INTERESTING AND I SHARE A COUPLE OF QUOTES IN THE COMMENT SECTION. CHECK IT OUT.

Oct 06, 2011 09:26 AM
Deb Brooks
Brooks Prime Properties Wichita Falls Texas - Wichita Falls, TX

To SARAH CONWAY, if you will contact your City Planner's Office they can send you a copy of the new zoned maps for your area. They can tell you if you are in the flood zone! Good luck.

 

Brian, how funny! Boy, canoe you make a pun!

 

Jim, this is NOT local. This is FEDERAL. It will affect your area too.

 

Jill, it sounds like you are living in a very challenged area already. It will affect you. Sounds like a river out of control!

 

Gene, I doubt the million dollar beach owners can afford it...

 

Ginny, let me know if they crack down on your area too.

 

Thom, you may still come across it now...must know the area you work!

 

Rod, unfortunately it looks like it will happen even if that is not their intent.

 

John, I understand your rant! Sounds like it would make a great post! Go for it...

 

Summers, I didn't know that statistic. wow. Yes, you can get flood insurance at that price although you have to be GRANDFATHERED. Try buying another property and check out the prices. Times they are a changing.

 

 

Oct 06, 2011 09:41 AM
Rob Arnold
Sand Dollar Realty Group, Inc. - Altamonte Springs, FL
Metro Orlando Full Service - Investor Friendly & F

About 8 years ago FEMA amended some of their flood maps here in Florida to include one of my rental houses in a flood zone.  I was able to pay a surveyor about $500 to file a petition to FEMA to have the flood map amended to exempt my property out of the flood zone.  It took about 6 months or so, but after that no more flood insurance required. 

Oct 06, 2011 09:45 AM
Deb Brooks
Brooks Prime Properties Wichita Falls Texas - Wichita Falls, TX

Rob, yes they did amend it then. They actually do this every few years. The surveyor is the one that evidently did the Elevation Certificate! When a surveyor proves that your home is enough above water level then the map will still change for the good. Better check with the City Planning office and double check to see if it's back in the flood plain. All is new now. Good luck! If you need a great insurance quote use the link above to Gary. He can help. Good luck.

Judy, you are very lucky they didn't back out! Many people do not know it yet. As the lenders begin to hear from FEMA they will be notifying the borrower. Good for you getting it closed anyway.

Michael, yes you had better check. I think a great many people are going into shock.

Beverly, so true. I guess what bothers me is that our government is wasting so much money left and right on issues that are not even our business. Yet when it comes to supporting our people it's up to us...

 

Oct 06, 2011 10:20 AM
Karen Anne Stone
New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County - Fort Worth, TX
Fort Worth Real Estate

Deb:  We have always had regulations in place as far as the 100 and 500 year flood plains have been concerned.  The lenders... both conventional, and FHA,VA require flood certifications, as we all know, to make sure the home being purchased (and financed) is not in the flood plain.  All FEMA has done... is re-measure exactly where the revised flood plains are.

All the the torrential rains and flooding that has happened over the past year has changed things.  And the government... FEMA, Obama, etc... really has not done anything to make things worse. FEMA is just following a law/regulation that has been in place.

If anything... many of the cuts to water conservation programs that have been made by the conservative congress, and conservative state Governors like Rick Perry in Texas... has made things worse.  You cannot cut programs designed to conserve and control water, and prevent flooding... in the name of reducing spending, and then complain when those cuts add to the horrible flooding that has taken place over the past year. 

My point here... it ain't FEMA that's the bad guy.  Mother Nature... and soil and water conservation and control programs being cut... bears much of the responsibility.

Oct 06, 2011 11:08 AM
Karen Anne Stone
New Home Hunters of Fort Worth and Tarrant County - Fort Worth, TX
Fort Worth Real Estate

A major part of our job as Realtors is to act in our fiduciary capacity relative to our clients.  If the property they buy is now IN the new boundaries of the flood zone... they need to know. 

Oct 06, 2011 11:10 AM
Deb Brooks
Brooks Prime Properties Wichita Falls Texas - Wichita Falls, TX

Hi Karen Anne, I can't disagree with a single word you said! I totally agree with our Fiduciary responsibility to our clients thus the informational post. This all came about due to a client of mine. We discovered a new requirement of flood zone insurance on her property that had previously never been considered in a zone at all. She is now in the worst zone possible overnight!

I have learned all of this due to the help she needs in selling her home. I do hope you don't think I was bashing FEMA and I sure don't want to get into politics here! Been there and done that and it won't work!

Thank you for your insight. It is going to continue to affect our homeowners on a level we cannot understand yet. It is imperative to get the information out there!

Comment number 2 is also imperative. Title companies are being surprised these days around here. They tell me they are in shock at all the changes. We will adapt and the people whose properties that are affected will in fact find they are losing value to many. It's a tough situation but we all have to be aware!

 

Oct 06, 2011 12:04 PM
Evelyn Kennedy
Alain Pinel Realtors - Alameda, CA
Alameda, Real Estate, Alameda, CA

Deb:

I agree with Ask Jane, #44.  Your photo is great, it makes you seem approachable and charming.  We are talking about social media here.  The rules are different.   Sorry to break the chain of FEMA comments, but I had to put my 2 cents in.

Oct 06, 2011 12:07 PM
Coral Gundlach
Compass - Arlington, VA
Real Lives. Not Just Real Estate.

As Joetta #40 pointed out above...why are they not told this before closing? 

Oct 06, 2011 01:13 PM
Kimo Jarrett
Cyber Properties - Huntington Beach, CA
Pro Lifestyle Solutions

Any property owner in a flood zone must secure a minimum flood policy benefit so the premiums are not costly. The chances of a flood damage is very remote and anybody that insures their property for more than the cost of replacing their structure is being unrealistic in my opinion. that's why they call it a 100-500 year flood.

I was unfortunately in a flood zone for over 30 years and just secured the minimum amount policy. Fortunately, we didn't experience any flooding but over 30 years of premiums were paid regardless. Now I don't pay for flood insurance and I'm keeping that premium payment in my wallet. 

 

Oct 06, 2011 01:33 PM
Marge Piwowarski
Phoenix AZ Horse Property - Phoenix, AZ
Phoenix AZ Horse Property, LLC

Deb,

My acreage is on the south side of Houston, between Sims Bayou and Clear Creek waterways.  It is the highest land in the area, has never flooded but as surrounding areas have, that presents its own problems.  All the wildlife, including snakes head for our place in a flood.  Yep, as you could have guessed, I just got zoned into the 100 year plain.  Hurricane Ike dropped a huge tree and totaled the house and we didn't rebuild.  I will have to have it surveyed for an elevation certificate when I sell it. 

Oct 06, 2011 03:13 PM
Kasey & John Boles
Jon Gosche Real Estate, LLC - BoiseMeridianRealEstate.com - Boise, ID
Boise & Meridian, ID Ada/Canyon/Gem/Boise Counties

Yikes, that sounds like quite the big issue for your area and buyers and sellers.  Ouch. -Kasey

Oct 06, 2011 05:40 PM
Bob Miller
Keller Williams Cornerstone Realty - Ocala, FL
The Ocala Dream Team

Deb, Great blog, full of info and very colorful.  A big problem here in Florida!

Oct 06, 2011 11:08 PM
Anonymous
Cindy Mustafa

Great Post!

This topic collapsed a transaction for me YESTERDAY! A redrawn map put a sellers house right in the path of a 100 year flood zone. When their sale collapsed [they wrote and got accepted [contingent to close], an offer on my listing] it all collapsed - smack down!

Drop the price? Pay the premium for the buyers for 5 years at 500.00 / year? NOOOOOOOOOO, nothing will make the buyers on the first home, change their mind - they walked - domino collapses and we march on......

We all love a challenge but what do you do on this one? How do you save these transactions today?

 

 

 

Oct 07, 2011 02:13 AM
#81
Lucien Vaillancourt
Native Sun Realty, Inc. - Jacksonville, FL
Jacksonville Florida Real Estate

As with health care this is a way to increase the flow of money by forcing low risk home owners to buy insurance they probably won't ever file a claim against.

Oct 07, 2011 04:53 AM
Kathy Beeler
The Beeler Group - Pinnacle Real Estate Partners - Osage Beach, MO

Deb, here at beautiful Lake of the Ozarks we are having a heck of a time with the flood plane maps.  So far, our office has only had one property which was actually in the flood zone and that was 3' of a 78' waterfront property.  It's a mess, but what do you do!

Oct 07, 2011 07:37 AM
Doug Patterson
Park Place Real Estate, Broker-In-Charge - Winston-Salem, NC
CRS, ABR, Broker-In-Charge

Deb,

I re-blogged your post because I felt it may be relevant in parts of North Carolina.   When the reblogging took place on my site, it was all jumbled up.  Here is my site:  www.dougpattersonblog.com  I don't know if others see it jumbled up with words running into and over each other. 

Well enough of that...

I thank you for this information. I was not aware of this as I imagine most colleagues are not.  I've always depended on an insurance friend of mine to check flood zones for my clients, becuase I guess I'm too dense to know where to get accurate information....and when I have found a site, it's usually not there later when I go back to it.  I always attributed that to "government"...but it's probably me.

So!  Thank YOU!  for this information!

Our family is heading back down to our North Carolina beaches, where we always go, beach front, right on the Atlantic.  I'm wondering if next year that home we usually rent, will be affordable?!

Oct 07, 2011 11:55 AM
Victoria CB Trees
Victoria CB Trees Real Estate Services - Chiloquin, OR
Principal Broker

Spring Creek... Chiloquin, OR.  The last study was in 1984 and stopped about 1000 feet short of where Spring Creek flows into the Williamson.  To clarify, it was the Williamson River that is inside the study.  At the point where it ends, it is NOT a flood zone.  Because there hasn't been a study on Spring Creek, although there isn't an ice cube's chance in Hell that it would ever flood (it's a spring... ), homes on it are now considered in flood Zone A. 

Yes, we learned this the hard way when a previously never-need-flood-insurance area suddenly was needing a $5300/yr policy.  Needless to say, we lost that deal.

The seller is now in the final stages of acquiring the LOMA... Letter Of Map Amendment.  We might still be able to bring that buyer back...

If you are anywhere near water of any kind, it's well worth the $10-$20 for a flood certificate when you list the property.

Oct 08, 2011 11:42 AM
Wayne Johnson
Coldwell Banker D'Ann Harper REALTORS® - San Antonio, TX
San Antonio REALTOR, San Antonio Homes For Sale

Deb-Your information was timely and the comments added has certainly fleshed this subject out for me. Thanks for getting the ball rolling on this subject.

Oct 13, 2011 03:38 PM