OK, I'll confess: That title was a shameless effort to grab your attention because I need your advice on something.

I have a potential client who will be listing his house in the next few months.  He's asked me to do a Comparative Market Analysis (CMA).  I do a two-step CMA with the first step being on-site information gathering.  The property is a three-bedroom split-level home in the beautiful city of Baie d'Urfé, a suburb of Montreal, Quebec. 

During my visit to the property, I discovered that he has a full bathroom off his kitchen and that he has plans to make this bathroom bigger by stealing some space from the kitchen.

"What the dillio?" I find this very strange, and I think buyers will too.  By the way, in addition to the "kitchen bathroom," there is also a full bathroom upstairs although it currently only has a bathtub (no shower).

I have suggested that he add a shower head to the family bathroom, convert the "kitchen bathroom" into a simple powder room, and add a full bathroom in the basement laundry room which already has some plumbing and plenty of space. (Note that he had already bought everything for his kitchen bathroom remodel.)  My hesitation here is that the basement does not currently have a bedroom nor does it have space for one.  But it does have plenty of space for the bathroom.

So, do you agree with my suggestion?

Or do you think it's fine to have a bathroom off the kitchen?

Is it worthwhile to move the kitchen bathroom into the basement even if there is no bedroom down there?

What say you, oh wise ones?

 

 

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18 Comments on Should we be showering in the kitchen?

OCT
05
2011
476,609 Points 35 Featured Posts Called Shot Master

I like your idea, but having a full bathroom in the basement means going down another set of stairs. I certainly wouldn't compromise any kitchen space for a larger bathroom. That's just my 2 cents.

10:20am • #1
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If there is no room for anything but a bathroom downstairs, then I think buyers will find it odd.  But he definitely shouldn't take any space from the kitchen.  IMO.

10:47am • #2

Hey Tanya,

Definitely don't like the full bathroom off kitchen idea, but the bathroom in the basement doesn't sit right, either. Is there any room for expansion in the upstairs bathroom? If not, I might keep it status quo and let the buyer decide how to remedy the dilemma. Make them fall in love with the rest of the house so they'll be inspired to problem solve according to their own preference. Just sayin.' ;)

 

krystal wagstaff
11:05am • #3
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Thanks for your input so far, ladies.  I should have mentioned that the basement does have a finished playroom, which could be used instead as a bedroom.  Does that make a difference?

11:33am • #4

Yes, I think a playroom/potential bedroom does make a difference. Good luck, Tanya, with whatever you decide. :)

krystal Wagstaff
12:27pm • #5
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Salut, Tanya!  I think it becomes a no-brainer to put a full bath in the basement if there is potentially room to put a bedroom/guest room down there.  Even is the downstairs area was used as a home gym, having the bathroom there would be a big plus.  

As for a full bath off the kitchen- I don't think that's a good idea!  You are right- keep it as a powder, and don't make the kitchen smaller!!  Gee whiz- people always want a bigger kitchen :)

12:48pm • #6
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The playroom definitely makes a difference!  OK, now I see where you are going with this.  However, I'd still leave the existing bath alone.  The next owners may have a need for it and there is never a reason to make a kitchen smaller.

12:49pm • #7
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Tanya, you need to get a DVD copy of that episode of Seinfeld where Kramer decides to do all his food preparation while showering. Perhaps the image of a big hairy man cleaning lettuce while naked in the shower might convince him that this is not a good idea and that bathrooms and kitchens don't really mix very well.

1:11pm • #8
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I definitely like a powder room on the main level (even off the kitchen, I guess), and think an additional full bath downstairs makes sense because then the playroom can double as a guest area, if necessary.  Definitely would not take room from the kitchen, of all places, for a full bath.  Ugh!

1:46pm • #9
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Malcolm, that's exactly what I thought of when I saw it!!!  Too funny...and yes, gross.

Thanks for weighing in, my friends. 

Especially nice to "see" you, Krystal.  Had a big ol' laugh on a highway lately?

2:28pm • #10
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Tanya, 

OMG!  Taking space out of the kitchen for more bathroom sounds HORRENDOUS!  STOP!  

Not sure if expanding the basement bath makes sense, but a lot mroe sense than taking kitchen space.  And yes, the 2nd floor needs a showering component.

All the best, Michelle

4:29pm • #11
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Tanya,

From what Cherise explains, the kitchen will sell the house.  Why contract its size?  g

8:21pm • #12
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I cringe when I see a bathroom off the kitchen.  But that's just me.

9:50pm • #13
324,624 Points 88 Featured Posts Called Shot Master

Well Tanya, they say bathrooms in kitchens sell homes. Or maybe that was bathrooms and kitchens. Interesting post as we have a room near our kitchen, where we are adding a bathroom. Fortunately there is a transition area, as I was concerned about being to close to the kitchen.

11:36pm • #14
OCT
07
2011
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11
2011
175,524 Points 3 Featured Posts Called Shot Master

I wouldn't spend money making the full bath into a half but I definitely wouldn't spend money making it bigger, especially if there aren't any bedrooms on that level. Add the bath downstairs with the bonus room and the shower upstairs seem like fine ideas. If I had to choose one it would be the shower.

It's nice that he's taking your opinion into account before actually doing it. I cringe when I see some of the "improvements" that people do hoping to increase the value of their house.

1:07pm • #16
OCT
22
2011
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I'm inclined to your view. I'd do a simple basic powder room on the main floor and then upgrade the main 2nd floor bath and/or do a full bath/shower change room in the basement.

But as the property will be for sale, I'd just do the powder room for now and leave the upgrade options open for new owners. They will get to choose the finishes and detail selections. That should make it attractive to many buyers. You won't have as many who may dislike the the 'new' renovations.

3:33pm • #17
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I just saw your earlier posting for a Baie d'Urfé home. If it is the same one or same type, having a shower/change room as you enter the home from the garage may be an attractive asset for active people or those who's work or play often gets them dirty.

Being able to clean up and change clothes and not track it through the house is a good thing. It (the full bathroom) would be more about that convenience, rather than it's proximity to the kitchen.

3:41pm • #18


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