So, is this a gas line sediment trap or escape hatch?  You decide.

The features list in the house said, "Newly installed HVAC system 2011!"  All true.  And done professionally!

Judging from the duct work the previous system was quite old.  Replacing it was only smart.  And good for my clients!

The sediment trap is the longer section of black iron gas tubing that is sticking straight down.

It has been called by various names, and there are those who split hairs and say that only the term "sediment trap" is correct.  But still, it is what it is.

The purpose is just as its name says.  Historically, when natural gas was first pumped into houses it came with sediment and moisture.  That could all get into and damage the appliance using the gas.

So they devised a trap, which you see to the left, to capture that as it would fall harmlessly into the bottom of the lowest section.  In the "olden days" they used to remove that section of pipe periodically to dump out the trapped sediment.  The extended pipe should be 3" minimum.

Fine.  Today our gas is cleaner and drier and there are those who say that the traps may not be necessary.  But still, most installation practices require them. 

I have spoken with plumbers who say they should not be used outdoors or in attics as the moisture trapped inside could freeze and cause the pipe to burst or move the nipple at the bottom causing a leak.  But still, most codes require them.  When I don't see a sediment trap present I note it for my client.

You can see the new piping here, new condensate line, new cables, new switch servicing the new humidifier and new condensate pump - new, new, new!  They did it right.

But wait!  What's wrong here?  This is a new system, installed by a professional because they proudly placed their company sticker, with installation date, onto the unit.  It also says, "Please call US to answer any future questions or to satisfy any future needs!"

So, again, what's wrong here?

Looking closely, as a home inspector is supposed to do, you might notice that the gas shut-off valve is between the sediment trap and the furnace!

If someone wanted to remove any debris from the sediment trap (and I have spoken with many, many plumbers who say there is no debris in modern times, but I digress) and dutifully shut off the gas valve before beginning, gas would still escape from the sediment trap tubing!

Obviously there is a way around this still.  The main gas line valve on the indoor manifold, or the gas meter itself, could be turned off to safely remove the sediment trap.  But that would turn off the gas to other appliances, and any pilot lights in the house, such as the water heater, and cause unnecessary work as they would all have to be relit.

The shut-off valve really should have been placed BEFORE the sediment trap.  This current installation might even indicate the valve was not correct from the start as this company mimicked what the previous installation looked like!  But I really don't know.

My recommendation:  when a home inspection is done, it is important to see the whole picture.  A little thing like this might go unnoticed forever, and maybe not even by the professional HVAC company, but it was not unnoticed on this inspection!  And at least it's a simple fix.  I guess that company is going to get called after all!

 

 

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OCT
07
2011
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Great information! I never heard of a sediment trap when I was living in the Northeast where the majority of homes have a gas heating system! Now that I am in Hawaii where homes do not have heating systems, I won't have the chance to see one soon.

5:42pm • #43
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I kind of get the gist of this and that's after Goodgling and finding drawings to help me  I'm totally right brain!

6:33pm • #44
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There are the hair-splitters out there Reubs.  And I had the same thing the day I posted this one.  See #22 above.

You're very welcome Jayson.  I don't know why these things are so hard for plumbers.

Marshall - I have this a couple of times a month!  Don't know why - it's such a difficult installation.

Monique - nice picture!  I'll be right over.  Well, next time you see a gas installation you'll know what to look for!

Beverly - you are both-sides brained for sure!  But my picture is up there too!

7:18pm • #45
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Dear Jay,

Thank you for always teaching me something new. Very interesting. I am just getting used to having gas that does not come from a bottle.

11:24pm • #46
OCT
08
2011

I haven't seen a sediment trap in years, but I agree the shut off or line valve should be before the device.

12:44am • #47
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Dorte - if you mean propane, I see sediment traps on those systems too.  If you mean in beverages, well, now maybe you can cover your mouth when you burp (that's kind of a settlement trap...)

Michael - well, you should see them all the time!  The code has not changed.  But at least your valves are right!

3:55am • #48
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I didn't notice that until you pointed it out. Thanks for the info. I just looked & my own furnace is this way .... yikes!

9:29am • #49
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Jay,

Even I, who knows almost nothing when it comes to gas, knows to look for the sediment trap and shut off location.

p.s. check out my shout out to ya ;)

2:18pm • #50
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Run for the hills Lyn!  RUN!

Or see if you can have another valve installed, if it really, really bothers you.  The likelihood that you will need to remove the sediment trap is fairly minimal, all told.

Don - well, logic is logic.  You guys don't have gas out there?

I will look for the shout out.  Where?

2:26pm • #51
OCT
09
2011
227,118 Points 86 Featured Posts

To Charles - here in Minnesota, sediment traps are required on all automatically controlled gas appliances.  Ranges and clothes dryers are not automatically controlled- you turn them on manually.

Now why they're only required on automatically controlled appliances... I don't know. 

10:19pm • #52
OCT
10
2011
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Sure, Reubs, throw in ANOTHER wrinkle.  Sheesh...  Now you've just confused him more.

Don't you love the dryer that turns on automatically when you simply close the door?

3:52am • #53
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Hi Jay.  Thanks.  You always contribute such educational articles.  And we can always learn something new.

6:17am • #54
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Thanks Bob!  Join my new group - http://activerain.com/groups/bestpractices

6:33am • #55
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Those dryers were certainly a lot easier to figure out.  I actually had to read the instruction manual to figure out how to properly use my new-fangled dryer.

9:59pm • #56
OCT
11
2011

I would venture to say that 95% of the traps installed up here are done incorrectly.  As you pointed out, either no shut off valve or they put the trap so close to the ground that the cap could not be removed.

Once in a blue moon I run into a real pro that does it right.  It is a pleasure to see their work.

1:58am • #57
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Reuben - I know!  On some home inspections you need a degree from MIT to turn on the dryer!

Steve - I saw it four times last week and once yesterday!  Logic is logic and the purpose of the trap is removal.  I think I remember you finding an improper valve on Christian's inspection too.  Wow, 95%?

5:33am • #58
DEC
20
2011
611,253 Points 40 Featured Posts Outside Blog Called Shot Master

Jay, I should've searched on AR for sediment traps BEFORE the plumber came today to replace my hot water heater that burst yesterday.  He INSISTED it has been a requirement here since 1998, but my home was built in 2002 and we bought it in 2005 with a full inspection.  I should've known to check here. 

10:35pm • #59
DEC
21
2011
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Did you have a sediment trap before and the valve was on the wrong side, Juli, or did it not have one and he wanted to install one?

5:49am • #60
OCT
12
236,941 Points 5 Featured Posts Called Shot Master

Nice catch! These traps are still required around here. Very seldom do I see anything in them!

8:08am • #61
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Thanks Wayne.  It is surprising how often I see this done improperly!

9:03am • #62

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