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Sometimes Psychological repairs are warranted.

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Home Inspector with Charles Buell Inspections Inc.

I occasionally get calls from frantic sellers wanting a "second opinion" on something that another home inspector has found during the home inspection.

Dampwood TermiteI have no problem in helping sort out these difficulties with the parties involved, but it does have its difficulties.

In this case, what the other inspector had to say was not totally inaccurate.  It was the language the inspector used in the report that set off alarm bells for this particularly nervous buyer.  The written description of the defects, and what they recommended about the defects, was not wholly untrue, but their languaging in the report opened doors that had no need of being opened.  Some of the recommendations showed a lack of basic knowledge of the particular type of wood destroying insects they was describing.

Of course there is no way to guarantee how any buyer will react to the written report.  However, all control is lost if the information is inaccurate---or just plain wrong.

It is what was said under each relevant picture that caused some of the problem.  Under each picture it said the following:  "Evidence of Insects, Action Required, Repaired "past" insect damaged floor joist in crawl space."

What the nervous buyer honed in on was "evidence of insects," and "action required."  That there was "repaired 'past' insect damage...." seemed somehow unimportant when compared to the fact that the inspector said their was insects and that action was required.

This particular instance related to past Dampwood Termite infestation.  What was further expanded upon in the "Narrative" portion of the report (the part that ends up in the summary) was acceptable right up to the point where they recommended treatment by a "licensed exterminator" to "ensure the insects are dead."

So between what was said under each picture and in the narrative of the report the buyer was left confused, misinformed and frightened.

The following picture is of Dampwood Termite damage (plus some Annobid Beetle damage) at one of my own inspections that was both active and in need of major repairs.

Dampwood Termite damage

This next picture is of damage that is a past condition.  The joist has been sistered (note the bolt into the previously damaged joist).  The end of the damaged joist shows some evidence of the past condition---about 12" to the left of the bolt.

Past Dampwood Termite damage 

In the State of Washington, people that treat for wood destroying insects are licensed as:  "Pest Contol Operators,"---not exterminators---even if that is in fact what they do on occasion.  This was my first clue that the writer might go out on a limb elsewhere; and, as they continue:  "to ensure the insects are dead."  This particular wood destroying organism is only present if the wood is wet.  If the water intrusion issue has been fixed, the Dampwood Termites have no interest in staying and they disappear on their own.  No formal treatment is warranted.  In this case the areas of damage were VERY old, the result of leaks into the structure many, many years ago---the wood was too dry to support any moisture dependent wood destroying insects.  Structural repairs had clearly been made and the only additional "repairs" that anyone might want to do would be considered "cosmetic."  

Sometimes the removal of damaged wood is a good idea so that unwarranted red flags don't get waved---as in this case, where the waving flag likely scared away a potential buyer---due to inaccurate information about the condition.  

In this case the observation could have been worded in a way that a nervous buyer could be made to understand that there was indeed a past condition and that nothing further was required---other than for cosmetic or psychological reasons.

Sometimes psychological repairs are warranted.



Charles Buell, Seattle Home Inspector



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David Gibson CNE, 719-304-4684 ~ Colorado Springs Relocation
Colorado Real Estate Advisers LLC - Colorado Springs, CO
Relocation, Luxury & Lifestyle residential
Charles I understand inspectors don’t want to be sued. But you are so right that often they create problems for themselves and the rest of us in the transaction by being ambiguous and oblique. Either report the facts in factual terms or explain why you can’t.
Oct 15, 2011 04:10 AM
Donald Hester
NCW Home Inspections, LLC - Wenatchee, WA
NCW Home Inspections, LLC

Charlie, Since you have Anobiid does this not change the recommended treatment.

Or that pic just yours for demonstration of the point and not the same home?

Oct 15, 2011 05:53 AM
Steven Cook
No Longer Processing Mortgages. - Tacoma, WA

Charles -- Great pictures to illustrate the difference between something current and something that is past and corrected.  It is too bad the other inspector was not more accurate in setting forth his comments.  I am guessing these buyers are not going to be recommending him to any of their friends.

Oct 15, 2011 03:53 PM
Chris Smith
Re/Max Chay Realty Inc., Brokerage - New Tecumseth, ON
South Simcoe, Caledon, King, Orangeville Real Esta

Charles, up to now, termites have not been an issue in my marketplace (I say touching wood ;-)

but I do know that there are termite issues in parts of southern Ontario, so I guess it is only a matter of time.

This is scary stuff for me.

Oct 15, 2011 04:41 PM
1~Judi Barrett
Integrity Real Estate Services 116 SE AVE N, Idabel, OK 74745 - Idabel, OK
BS Ed, Integrity Real Estate Services -IDABEL OK

Those WDI reports can cause a lot of havoc here at times.  Especially when poorly written.  Or if the termites were found under limb about 30 feet from the house...  had that happen one time.. Enjoyed the read. 

Oct 15, 2011 04:52 PM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

David, exactly---and by doing just that one actually takes care of the liability issue for the most part

Don, thanks, and yes Anobiid's are also the result of moisture issues.

Steven, it would be interesting to know---unfortunately I only know part of the story and not all the players

Chris, I don't think termites are like some of the famous critters that seem to be moving in from more southern climates.  However if climate is shifting---all bets are likely off.

Judi, yes they can.  If I see them in a stump in the yard---especially Carpenter Ants---it is a pretty good idea to do something about them before they get ideas about the house :)

Oct 15, 2011 05:21 PM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

I think a good many inspectors first thought is CYA, not informing the client. I stress to potential clients that I try my best to provide an accurate account of the conditions present in the home. Correctly explaining the condition, its meaning to the house and buyer and an appropriate recommendation is the best CYA there is. Unfortunately I don't think there is a good understanding in the profession of this approach.

Oct 16, 2011 03:58 AM
Reuben Saltzman
Structure Tech Home Inspections - Minneapolis, MN
Delivering the Unbiased Truth.

James said it very well.  Tell the client what you see, and tell them why you don't think they need to do anything about it.  That's plenty CYA and CTA.

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Oct 16, 2011 02:09 PM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Jim, while CYA is most likely essential---building it into---the report as just part of the discussion makes more sense than it being what the report is about.  There really is a huge problem with understanding this in our profession.

Reuben, I have a related post coming out tomorrow about a "hidden" problem with doing these "second opinion" inspections.  Stay tuned.

Oct 16, 2011 02:15 PM
Barbara-Jo Roberts Berberi, MA, PSA, TRC - Greater Clearwater Florida Residential Real Estate Professional
Charles Rutenberg Realty - Clearwater, FL
Palm Harbor, Dunedin, Clearwater, Safety Harbor

Termites............we have them everywhere here, they love our climate!

Oct 20, 2011 04:49 AM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Barbara-Jo, just think of them as Nature's recylers :)

Oct 20, 2011 04:52 AM