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Flipper Forgot Step Two!

By
Home Inspector with Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC 3380-000723

Sometimes the job isn't done until it's done!  Some things take more than one step and this time Flipper forgot Step Two!

Step One was to install a new water heater.

And it was done well - there are a few things to look for and they were present.

Okay, it was small and really inefficient, but new!

Well, he used the old plumbing, including the gas shut-off valve being on the wrong side of the sediment trap, but we've already had that lesson.

You can see that's been there for a while!

Would he take the time to replumb the gas line and do it right?  Not likely, if he even knows where that trap and valve should be placed.

But when you take the time to buy, schlep, install and plumb a new water heater, you should at least pay attention to Step Two!

THEY SIMPLY PLACED THE OLD VENT HOOD ON TOP OF THE NEW WATER HEATER AND DISREGARDED THE CONNECTION TO THE MAIN VENT STACK!

It might not be a bad idea to install a new hood and vent too!  That would have been Step Two!

This water heater was functioning!

It provided hot water, which means when I turned on the dishwasher, washing machine and began testing plumbing, the burner fired up and it began producing exhaust!

Where was that exhaust going?  The basement.

And what does it contain?  Carbon monoxide.

So, we left the furnace room as quickly as possible after discovering this.

NOT GOOD!

So, I guess Flipper will be getting a call back for this one.

Do I think he should be the one to install the new vent assembly?

No, I don't.  I would prefer to see the buyer receive money to have this done by a real plumber.

AN IMPROPER HOOD, IMPROPER SLOPE ON THE EXHAUST TUBING, IMPROPER, LEAKY CONNECTION TO THE MAIN VENT STACK AND THE SUBSEQUENT POTENTIAL FOR CARBON MONOXIDE IS NOT SOMETHING TO FOOL WITH.  THIS SHOULD BE FINISHED BY A PROFESSIONAL!

Of course, all I can do is recommend.  I cannot, and would not, demand that the seller or buyer do anything.

My recommendation:  when things are done, supposedly by professionals, but certainly when done by a Flipper, make sure all the pieces are in place.  Your life might depend upon it!  Oh, and call a home inspector.  Your life might depend upon it!

 

 

 

 

 

Posted by

Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC  

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia.

Office (703) 330-6388   Cell (703) 585-7560

www.jaymarinspect.com


Comments(46)

Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Ginger - when are you going to let them go?    ;>)

Oct 17, 2011 09:30 AM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Jay, I am aweful careful to not vent near any gas appliances---not good for the feathers.

Oct 17, 2011 09:32 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Der Ducksterflugen - excuse me for being so blunt, but you ARE a gas appliance.

Oct 17, 2011 09:41 AM
Marge Piwowarski
Phoenix AZ Horse Property - Phoenix, AZ
Phoenix AZ Horse Property, LLC

Jay, you save more lives than your local paramedics and ER staff.

Oct 17, 2011 09:48 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

I've had a few of these Marge, and with CO you simply cannot fool around.  It has to be handled immediately.

Oct 17, 2011 09:53 AM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Most people think I move around on the pond using my feet.

Oct 17, 2011 09:54 AM
Chris Smith
Re/Max Chay Realty Inc., Brokerage - New Tecumseth, ON
South Simcoe, Caledon, King, Orangeville Real Esta

Jay, this is an issue that could have proved fatal.  I bet your clients were glad they invested in you.

Oct 17, 2011 10:17 AM
Michael S. Bolton
Michael S. Bolton,Inc. - Zimmerman, MN
MN Appraiser

Jay, Great Job! Sometimes it's hard to believe what people will do to save a buck!

Oct 17, 2011 11:00 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Jet locomotion, gotta be Duckie.  Makes for more speed!  You gotta eat the right stuff.  I'd stay away from frogs...

Chris - it's amazing sometimes what people either are living with or accept as OK because they just don't know.

Michael - well, true.  I am trying to save a really, really bad circumstance!

Oct 17, 2011 11:09 AM
Sharon Alters
Coldwell Banker Vanguard Realty - 904-673-2308 - Fleming Island, FL
Realtor - Homes for Sale Fleming Island FL

Jay, your blogs have taught us all so much about what to look for in a home inspection and validated why it is important to have one done when buying a new house.

Sharon

Oct 17, 2011 02:18 PM
Donald Hester
NCW Home Inspections, LLC - Wenatchee, WA
NCW Home Inspections, LLC

Jay,

Sometimes I think I may be blessed that I live in the land of volts and amps. We can burn here but we have a much smaller chance that the silent CO gets us.

I really do not see much gas (exempt when eating beans), but what I do see them they seem to always have a problem. Most of it from lack of maintenance and then a little DIY to kick over the hill.

Great post Jay... as always ; )

Oct 17, 2011 02:53 PM
Peter Pfann @ eXp Realty Pfanntastic Properties in Victoria, Since 1986.
eXp Realty, Victoria BC www.pfanntastic.com - Victoria, BC
Talk To or Text Peter 250-213-9490

HI Jay,

it is just amazing that people would take these type of risks, just to save a few dollars, and become potentially liable for the lives and well being of an entire family...... shocking how people think.

Oct 17, 2011 02:54 PM
John Mulkey
TheHousingGuru.com - Waleska, GA
Housing Guru

Jay - Maybe you should just catalog your tips and sell them individually. At $5 each you could make a fortune. Just remember the "little people" who once offered the suggestion : )

Oct 17, 2011 03:03 PM
Rob Ernst
Certified Structure Inspector - Reno, NV
Reno, NV-775-410-4286 Inspector & Energy Auditor

All I have to say is that there are people who still won't get a Home Inspection. This is one of those fine examples of why you should have one.

Oct 17, 2011 05:45 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Frank and Sharon - well, thanks and you're welcome!  I still don't think everyone gets home inspections!

Don - I see things done wrong with electric water heater installations - my favorite is wiring sitting on top of the unit.

Thanks again John.  You do make more money when you separate the collection into individual pieces!

Robert - for sure you and I see examples every day!  I don't understand it either, but I am in the business and people might think I'm biased!

Oct 17, 2011 08:54 PM
Peggy Chirico
Prudential CT Realty - Manchester, CT
REALTOR® 860-748-8900, Hartford & Tolland County Real Estate

Hi Jay - It's a good thing you did the home inspection!  Most people aren't aware of everything that can cause problems now or down the road.

Oct 18, 2011 02:04 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Peggy - that's the old adage, we don't know what we don't know.

Oct 18, 2011 04:43 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Peter and Linda - you slipped in there and I didn't see you!  Sorry!  That is the kind of thing I see so often on home inspections that baffle me more than any other.  Maybe they really are that ignorant, not stupid, but ignorant?

Oct 18, 2011 04:45 AM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Had a very similar issue just a few weeks ago. The sellers were unaware and have a baby in the home. I pointed out the danger to the listing agent. The issue was fixed in less than 20 minutes with a call to the gas company.

Oct 18, 2011 01:34 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

That's what I mean when I say that people are ignorant Jim.  Not stupid, by any means, but ignorant.  Amazing they lived there like that unawares!

Oct 18, 2011 01:46 PM