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17 Comments on What Real Estate Investors look for in an agent...
Chris,
Great post!
"The playing field is shifting out there; agents who evolve will stay ahead of the curve."
Words to live by,always..
Hey Christopher, you did a great job of delineating what a seasoned investor is looking for in an agent.
What about in a lender? Anyone?
Aloha Christopher, Great Post!
One other thing my investors like from me is the tools I have on my laptop. Running the numbers before and after taxes, adding in expenses, aquisition costs, etc. and plugging in different market conditions helps them to estimate their potential earnings and their potential risk.
I never predict the market, I always ask them what numbers they would like me to plug in. It sets me apart from many of the agents in my area. Skills I aquired through CRS.
All, thanks for the comments! I learn something from every post I make in my blog.
William: Agreed - seems easy, but it's not! This is a unique skill set for real estate agents - I find very few who actually have it. Cashflow analysis is not a skill that most agents develop, those who do increase their relevance and their value.
Randy: I started out as a second lieutenant with the 25th Infantry Division (L) there in Hawaii. I played rugby for the Hawaii Harlequins and I was the 6'4" Texas trying to learn to surf on those little baby Waikiki waves. You live in a beautiful corner of the world. I like your comment about plugging in the investor's assumptions - generally a wise practice. But there is a fine line. Here's a conversation I've had a few time with my realtor:
This would go back and forth a couple of times until she gives me her view. Which sometimes I use and sometimes I don't. But the point is that I like having another opinion.
Joey: Low rates! Easy terms! High LTV ratio! And Fast Close! Easy!
Vicky: Most agents add little value to investors. But agents who understand investing can add a lot of value. Most investors will automatically assume that any agent they meet falls into the first category - that's why you get the reaction that you get. Your job will be to show them that you fall into the second.
Christopher,
Thanks for the post. It is great to get your perspective.
I have two agents that I look for investment properties with. I have told them exactly what I look for and tell them when they find it I will buy. I need a partner since real estate investing is not my full time gig. I greatly appreciate their expertise.
My agent, saves me time and money.
Thanks for posting an investor's perspective. I like gathering data and playing with spreadsheets. Combined with my love of the web and technology, I think that will help me build a decent investor clientele in 2007.
Most of the investors i've come into contact with just do not want to pay agents. The last one was where his wife was the agnet that offered the house, owned by them both, and in the MLS listing she offered agents 3%. Then she turns you over to her husband, who is the investor owner who "knows the numbers that will work". Well through each round of negociating he negociated my commission down "to make the deal work" I informed him that when a Realtor offers 3% to co-op agents, that no one is to start to try to get my fee down. Thats is totally off limits.
The only time that any investor/agent relation worked for me was when the investor was buying by getting a loan and didn't mention my commission. I have had some investors say "I will find the house and you don't have to anything and all I want is you to give me 50% if your commission. First to say that I didn't have to do anything......well each agent answers to The Local Real Estate Board and The Real Estate Commission and first to their Broker. There is a lot of liability at steak.
Well there are a lot of other stories good and bad, but mostly bad. It is never a good idea to dismiss someone, to say your not important enough to be paid your full commission, etc.
What do you think about all this.
Thank you,
Shirley
Atlanta,
GA
Shirley,
I don't necessarily think this is unreasonable, and in my opinion you should not take this as an insult or a dismissal of your skills/abilities.
A buyer generally has a certain set of expectations from an agent which justify the agent getting 3% of the deal as a fee (assuming a 6% total split 50/50). The agent needs to understand the needs of the buyer, screens lots of possibilities, narrows down the list, arranges the showings, spends his/her time/effort/gasoline visiting the homes, advises the buyer on the purchase, negotiates on the buyer's behalf, takes the buyer through the closing process and in the end gets the keys into the buyer's hands. Man, that's a lot of work, and this is why an agent's commission is well earned, in my book.
But...(there's always a "but" isn't there?)...some investors don't need all of this! And if the buyer is an investor who doesn't need all of the services (time, effort, money, expertise) that one would normally expect from a buyer's agent it's not unreasonable that the investor would try to negotiate a modified fee.
I don't think the investor is being obnoxious. But that's just my two cents...