The US House of Representatives is considering a bill that would Legislate Underwriting Guidelines into Law and outlaw Yield Spread Premium.  The bill came out last week and the US House Financial & Services Committee will vote on Tuesday, November 6th, 2007.  Let's be clear, THIS BILL EFFECTS THE ENTIRE REAL ESTATE AND MORTGAGE INDUSTRY AS A WHOLE, Real Estate Agents, Mortgage Brokers AND Mortgage Bankers!

Yesterday afternoon, I received an email from The National Association of Mortgage Brokers regarding this bill.  HR 3915 The Mortgage Reform and Anti-Predatory Lending Act of 2007 was introduced by House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D-MA), along with Representatives Miller (D-NC) and Watt (D-NC).  This morning I was on a nationwide conference call regarding the effects HR 3915 will have on our industry. 

After this conference call, and reviewing the bill, all 66 pages of it, I applaud the efforts of these congressman. Their intent is commendable in many areas!  I have always said that our current Mortgage and Real Estate crises will bring about much needed reform.  However, there are some items in the bill that will effectively raise Interest Rates almost immediately, all but ELIMINATE MORTGAGE BROKERS, and dramatically reduce banks abilities to practice in a free market.  I will break it down.

The good items of this legislation:

  • The bill would require criminal background checks, testing to demonstrate basic knowledge of loan products, and continuing education and professional ethics training for all who originate mortgage loans.
  • It would also require loan originators to provide a simple, straight-forward disclosure of their role in the mortgage transaction, including all fees and other sources of compensation, and to do so at the onset of the process.
  • The establishment of a national registry.  I assume this would be governed by a federal agency such as the Federal Trade Commission and is to include every individual mortgage originator (including loan officers working for federal- and state-chartered banks and lenders, credit unions and mortgage brokers)
  • It will eliminate special incentives paid by lenders to mortgage originators who sell particular loan products i.e. Hefty YSP or rebates for Option ARM's.  In other words, some loans are more profitable for Lenders, so they place extra Yield Spread Premium (YSP) on them so that Loan Officers sell those loans as opposed to other loan products.  This is a practice that I have always been against, so HOO RAY! for this piece of it!

The bad items of this legislation:

  • The bill will create a Federal Duty of care and outlaw steering.  This doesn't sound like a bad thing, BUT the anti-steering language will outlaw incentive compensation and Yield Spread Premium (YSP) that allows Brokers and Bankers to be competitive. 
  • It would require all originators to have a minimum net worth or bond requirements of $100,000.  Aside from the fact that many originators would not qualify with a net worth of 100k, the bond requirements would effectively eliminate many originators due to the expense to carry this type of bond.  In addition, this would create a run of litigation on future loans strictly because consumers would know the bond and/or net worth is there.
  • The bill will legislate "STRICT UNDERWRITING STANDARDS".  This means that every loan will have to fit into a perfect box that many homeowners and potential homeowners DO NOT fit into.  Also, with set underwriting standards, this will basically eliminate the free market in respect to Mortgages.  As NAMB President Elect Hanzimanolis stated, "We need to have confidence in the market's ability to correct itself.  Further restrictions through legislation will cripple the industry, and will adversely affect the very people we're trying to help." 
  • Borrower's will no longer be able to finance closing costs.  So basically, if you are going to refinance your house, you will have to pay ALL closing costs out of pocket.   For instance, if average loan closing costs were 2 to 3% of the loan amount and if the average refinance loan amount was $200,000, you would have to come out of pocket with 4,000 to 6,000 to refinance your home.

What does this all mean:

  • First, Mortgage Brokers would be put out of business.  The enormous cost of bond requirements and additional liability would be too much for most Mortgage Brokers to stay in business.  Those that could afford the cost would have limited profitability because of the elimination of YSP.  This would force most all Mortgage Brokers to cease operations.
  • Without Mortgage Brokers, borrowers would have little ability to "shop" for a more competitive rate and loan program.  In essence, it would create a monopoly for Mortgage Bankers.
  • Even-though Mortgage Bankers would have little competition, they ALSO could not benefit from YSP.  In order to be profitable, they would have to depend on shear volume which would drastically reduce the level of Customer Service!  This would favor the larger Mortgage Banks like Chase, Countrywide, etc. as they have more employees to handle the volume.
  • With standardized underwriting, there would be no difference between a large Mortgage Bank and a small Mortgage Bank with the exception of rate.  Because of the ability for the larger banks to operate at a higher volume, this would eliminate the ability for the smaller Mortgage Bankers to compete.  This would further create a monopoly for the larger Mortgage Banks.
  • In addition, standardized underwriting would limit the ability for "exceptions" to be made in underwriting files.  For anyone who has been in the industry, for any amount of time, you know that there are exceptions in virtually every loan file.  Standardized underwriting means there are little to no exceptions that can be made.  Without an individuals ability to get an exception, this would further decline the number of qualified buyers and people qualified to refinance their homes.
  • Less home sales means Real Estate Agents and Brokers are competing over a smaller piece of the pie.

I could go on from there but I am sure you get the picture!

Here you will find a Summary HR 3915 along with the Full Bill HR 3915. Please see updates for amended versions of the bill below. 

You can also sign an online petition to vote NO for HR 3915.

Although this legislation is a direct attack on Mortgage Brokers, it will end up affecting every piece of both the Mortgage and Real Estate Industry.  I urge you to act! 

Update November 2, 2007 2:56pm PST:

I just received this email from The National Association of Mortgage Brokers.  After reading the email I think you will see that our voice is being heard loud and clear already!  In the email, we are asked to refrain from contacting our congressmen until we know the final language of the bill.  However, I think this is too big a matter to wait. We waited in Nevada regarding AB 440 and now we are stuck with legislation that is crippling our ability to do many types of Mortgage Loans.  If you decide to contact them please do so in an orderly and professional manner.  Here is the email:

  • Dear NAMB Member:
  • We continue to work in good faith with Chairman Frank and his staff on HR 3915, "The Mortgage Reform and Anti-Predatory Lending Act of 2007." Chairman Frank and staff for the House Financial Services Committee have been willing to have an open dialogue on our concerns on this bill.  The process has been and continues to be transparent.  We are working diligently to ensure that the bill is revised to include language that is acceptable to the broker industry.
  • We know this is a critical and stressful time.  We understand all of your concerns.  However, we are asking each of you to please refrain from calling or emailing your Congressional Representatives on HR 3915 at this time.  We are working hard to resolve the concerns that you have on your ability to earn a living and operate a successful business.  We do not want to place in jeopardy the efforts that are underway and the gains that we have achieved so far.
  • Allow the process to work.  We will update you on the next steps once we are clear where the final language in HR 3915 stands.  Expect this in the coming days as the official debate on HR 3915 is scheduled for next Tuesday, November 6th.  Again, we are working around the clock in good faith to ensure that a revised bill addresses and resolves many of the concerns that we have communicated to Chairman's staff.
  • In the meantime, it is critical that you continue to learn about this bill and the process.  Staying informed will ensure you are ready to act when that time comes. 

Update November 5, 2007 11:45pm PST:

I attended a NAMB conference call this morning regarding the bill.  As of around 8:00am EST, a new version of HR 3915 has come out.  The original version of this bill was 66 pages, the new version is now 121 pages.  After reviewing the amended bill these are the changes that I think are significant:

Good amendments:

  • National Registry will include all Loan Originators
  • Eliminates net worth and assurity bond requirements
  • YSP ok for Qualified Mortgages
    • Qualified mortgages are prime loans with APRs that do not exceed the North Carolina standard.

    • Qualified safe harbor mortgages are loans with (1) documented consumer income, (2) underwriting processbased on fully indexed rate (taking into account taxes, insurance, and assessments), (3) no negativeamortization, (4) other requirements that may be established by regulation, AND (5) one of the following: (i)fixed payment for at least 5 years, (ii) for variable-rate loans, APR that varies less than 3% over the interestrateindex, OR (iii) DTI not greater than a percentage prescribed by regulation.

  • Adds an Office of Housing Counseling, established within HUD an Office of Housing Counseling that will conduct activities relating to homeownership and rental housing counseling.

Bad amendments:

  • Nationwide Mortgage Licensing System and Registry (NMLSR) for the residential mortgage industry to be established by the States through the Conference of State Bank Supervisors and the American Association of Residential Mortgage Regulators.
  • Mortgage Bank Loan Originators may not have to undergo education requirements (language is vague)
  • Consumers may still not be able to finance closing costs
  • YSP not allowed on Sub Prime Loans

View  the Summary of Amendments.  View the Full Amended Bill 3915.

CALL TO ACTION, CALL TO ACTION, CALL TO ACTION, CALL TO ACTION, CALL TO ACTION, CALL TO ACTION

********Please forward the following to as many Industry Professionals as possible*********** 

The U.S. House of Representatives Financial Services Committee is considering a bill that will fundamentally change the way we are paid.  While we agree that consumers should not be steered into a particular loan, the bill leaves unclear whether consumers can finance their origination fees and other costs inside the interest rate.  Therefore, it is unclear whether you can be paid YSP.  Additionally, we fear that all subprime lending will cease to exist due to the increased scope of the high-cost mortgages section (Title III) of this bill.

We are calling upon our Industry Professionals to respond as never before.  To save our industry, we are asking you to IMMEDIATELY contact your Congressman.

TIME IS CRITICAL.  The bill became public last week.  We have been working with Congressional offices in good faith, but our concerns have not been fully addressed in the newly, revised version released just hours earlier today.  The U.S. House of Representatives Financial Services Committee will be debating and voting on this bill on the morning of Tuesday, November 6, 2007.

YOU MUST ACT NOW. 

We are asking you to call your Congressman and to communicate with their Congressional office by letter. 

  • A.     To call your congressional office, click here and enter your zip code or other search options.  The phone number will be listed to Washington DC.  Please call and express your concern as follows:
    • I am an Mortgage and Real Estate Industry Professional.  House Bill 3915 is being considered on the morning of Tuesday, November 6th. We support licensing and improved standards for all originators. We oppose outlawing the way we earn our living, and urge that indirect compensation be allowed as part of the interest rate. Consumers should be able to finance fees and costs and creditors or investors should be able to pay such fees and costs to mortgage brokers as is industry practice today.
    • We do not support Title III.  The standards are so strict and the liability so great that it will prohibit loans being made in the subprime market.  It will act as a federal usury statute denying access to credit for deserving borrowers.
  • B.     Please write your Congressman by e-mail.  The vote is scheduled for the morning of November 6th.  Please customize your message (see above) or send our pre-posted letter.  Whatever message you wish to send, please respond with your concerns. 

Now is the time that you can individually participate in saving your livelihood, saving your business, and protecting your industry.  It is only through your efforts and answering this call-to-action that we can avert disaster. 

AGAIN, PLEASE FORWARD THIS EMAIL TO YOUR FRIENDS AND CO-WORKERS THROUGHOUT THE INDUSTRY. 

Update 11/07/2007:

COMMITTEE PASSES H.R. 3915 45 - 19; GOES TO FULL HOUSE NEXT WEEK.
Check back soon for more details! 

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117 Comments on If House Bill 3915 Passes, Find a New Career!

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01
2007
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Very interesting, thanks for keeping us informed.
1:23pm • #1
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Thanks Rey...I signed the petition using the link in your article.  Please keep us posted.
1:34pm • #2
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Steak,

I just wrote about the same thing.. Absurd!!

Tom Weiss

1:43pm • #3

your talking about 1 bill, there are numerous bills with various spinoffs from this one some are even much further along than this one. 

the industry is going to change, and will not be the same as we all know it.

 May God help us All

David
3:59pm • #4
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Christina, Please check back because there may be some things we can do to help!

 

4:02pm • #5
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Tom, It is amazing what congress can do when they put their minds to it!
4:03pm • #7
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David, You are right.  This is just one bill but something needs to be done about it!  If we don't speak up bad things could happen!
4:04pm • #8
If the mortgage industry does no mobilize and stop this action, we will ALL be out of a job, make no bones about it.  I especially love the way they kept this thing so quite until it was almost ready for a vote, only in the land of the free, yeah.
Debra Forehand
4:32pm • #9
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Debra, I can not agree with you more.  There is a petition to sign at the bottom of the post also tomorrow I will have more info on how and where to contact your congressman and with what language.
4:38pm • #10
I'd be depressed too Rey.  Necessity is the mother of invention and I think one may see more private financing from this over time as well.  While on one level this is bad for your business it can be worse for consumers as some of these deals can be shady to begin with, though many arew on the level.
5:22pm • #11
So many changes being proposed due to the subprime crisis. Hope things work out for everyone!
6:51pm • #12
Great post ... I like your pros and cons for the bill
6:59pm • #13
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Rey,

Do they draft these bills in the dark without input and concern from the professionals in the business! Thanks,   Fran

7:03pm • #14
Thanks for mentioning the public policy part of the problem -- how passage of this bill will hurt our neighbors and fellow citizens.  Sure, those of us in the mortgage industry will be hurt too, but so many are leaving I'm unsure of who is still in business!  How this will affect everyone else is of graver concern.
7:09pm • #15
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Steak- I signed It!! Good Job!

Tom Weiss

7:10pm • #16
Rey, interesting thanks for the information.
7:13pm • #17
Fee appraisers will have a drastic decrease in business also. Only the ones working for the Appraisal Management Companies will have any work.
7:23pm • #19
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Maybe we will be able to borrow from China or the Middle East, they have plenty of dollars.
7:25pm • #20
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Great information, Thanks I am heading to the petition next, let's hope we get some good reforms rather than lots of them that will limit competition and choices and things like ability to roll closing costs into a loan
7:26pm • #21
What a terrible bill.  What they need to do is yes, provide better disclosures for consumers, but to eliminate competition among brokers and bankers is just un-American.  I signed the petition and will pass it around.  Thanks for the information!
7:31pm • #22
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I am truly impressed with the information AND the presentation! YOU can help me write my posts anytime you want.

Seriously, I was just discussing this with a loan officer this afternoon. This bill would do serious damage to ALL of us who earn a living in the real estate world. Thanks for sharing!

7:46pm • #23
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Great info - I am going to sign the petition.
7:54pm • #24
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I just signed the petition.  This bill needs to be defeated. 
7:54pm • #25
Rey- I agree with the above comments:  This was a well written post and I really liked how you presented the pros and cons.  Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I've signed the petition.  Thanks again!
8:00pm • #26

Been there, done that!

Someone tell me again why we put these idiots in charge of our lives?

8:04pm • #27
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great post...well written and very ominous...its proven that for every crisis, there is a group of lobbyist waiting in the wings to exploit the scenario. Every law written always has the interests of the industry that pays the most ...I never had any doubt that when the Feb bailed Countrywide out that this kind of situation was coming.
8:20pm • #29
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Rey, I'm getting more than a little tired of these d--- social engineers in congress endlessly passing bills to regulate everything.  They complicate life, add expense, and always have unintended effects.

This is a textbook case of why we should support RPAC. 

8:20pm • #30
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Thanks for laying it out with the pros and cons...I've worked with some potential bills and they can be extremely complex and confusing.
8:36pm • #31
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Of course only Mortgage Brokers are the only ones doing predatory lending - NOT.  I agree some changes need to be made, but they need to come up with better solutions.  We shall see.

Signature

8:47pm • #32

Believe me, if this passed there will still be mortgage brokers. I agree though that a lot would go out of business. The larger ones will stay around to pick up all the business from the closed small shops. I still hope that it doesn't pass in its current form.

I signed the petition and have my fingers crossed.

 

Tampa Bay referral - paying 30%

8:54pm • #33
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Rey - I think you just wrote & articulated one of the most important posts I've read....in regards to the Mortgage Industry.  That's all I'll say.
9:07pm • #34
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I'm calling my (D)unces tomorrow morning to voice my outrage.  They've already reaked havoc on North Carolina and now they're trying to do the same nationwide.  Thanks for keeping us informed. 
9:13pm • #35
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Sounds like it was written with the best of intentions.  Hope they can amend the problematic areas without throwing out the whole thing!
9:31pm • #36

Rey:

Excellent job in synopsizing the bill. I agree with you that changes were needed to protect EVERYONE against predatory lending, but unfortunately this bill is a tragic case of overcompensation and bad conceptualizing. I am a stone's throw away from D.C., and you can bet that I, my colleagues, and even my competitors are going to make the short journey to the Capitol to express our consternation with this behemoth nightmare. I applaud the thought and intention behind the bill, but if ever there were a case of good intentions paving a road to hell, this bill is it!

I join you in urging all real estate professionals (not just realtor and mortgage types, but title folks, appraisers, and anyone else with a stake in this industry) to go to the sites provided in your links and make their voices heard. This thing, in its present form, has to be stopped, and some definite restructuring and re-enginerering has to be applied before it is ratified and the U.S. economy falls victim to a great big flsuh down the toilet. People think there's tight times and money troubles now- well just wait to see the cataclysm this thing will bring down upon the American family and the honest businessmen!

Keep up the great work, Rey!

Wes Guptill-

9:35pm • #37
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many of these items may already been on the books but were not enforced. Without the large banks and wall street funds that packaged these sub-prime loans without proper disclosure of risk this would not have gotten out of hand. The political contributions go Where? and from whom do they come? Soe one is favored and someone is not. 

9:37pm • #38
Interesting read.  Hopefully we will see the bill modified or killed entirely.
9:44pm • #39
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I signed the petition......

This post was rightly featured!!

=-)

 

10:13pm • #40
Thanks for keeping us posted. 
10:16pm • #41
121,298 Points 6 Featured Posts Outside Blog
Great post. I know they are trying to protect us from ourselves, but no one can really do that.
10:21pm • #42
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There s no doubt that there would be some fall out if this ever gets on the books, but remember where we are here! There will always be a way to do legal business in this country.
10:27pm • #43
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It sounds like the banks are still trying to find a way to take over the real estate industry. You know they're putting money in the pockets of the politicians.
10:34pm • #44
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Your post was like a grand New York, or better yet, Porter House, probably between 24 and 36 ounces, plenty to satisfy anyone's  appetite on the subject!  Great job.  I like mine medium well....ktm
10:40pm • #45

Woa!

Thank you Rey for bringing this to our attention and explaining it so well.

10:44pm • #46
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.  I got something from the California Association of Realtors on this subject.
matthew
11:01pm • #47
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Wow, even at 11:30 at night I can learn something. Thanks for the great breakdown of the bill. Aren't knee jerk reactions so pathetic? These guys need to justify their jobs be creating stupid bills, all in the name of "benefiting the consumer". They almost alwasy HURT the consumer instead. Why can't they just let the free market figure this out?
11:35pm • #48
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02
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"Steak dinner",

I like that name! Great post and thanks for the update. I read this online as well as on another AR post regarding this Bill HR 3915. I hope it will not pass. The banks have too much power and have lobbyist working for them on this bill.

As you mentioned in the post, there are some good points if it does pass. However, the negative implications will severely hamper the mortgage brokering and real estate industry. With many loans resetting, people who would want to refi will be in a tough predicament as they cannot roll the closing cost into the loan. Bad idea!

Overall, this might leave no steak on our dinner table but we will be staking out for dinner! I love steak and I want to keep eating it. I'm crossing my fingers and hope that the tide will turn in our favor when they meet on Nov 6.  

 

Dave

12:42am • #49
Thanks Rey! I signed, it effects more people than they seem to realize.
12:55am • #50
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Rey,

Nice post and good job highlighting the postives. The bill certainly needs to be modified to get rid of the special interests.

1:00am • #51
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For years the banks have tried to get into real estate brokerage at a nation level avoiding the state laws and have not been able to get that bill passed. Now they are trying to eliminate mortgage brokerage. On one hand they say that the increase in competition is good and on the other they are trying to restrict competition. It's all about the banks making more money.

6:20am • #52
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Thanks for sharing and putting in the link to the petition. I hope everyone took a few seconds to sign this.

6:45am • #53
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Rey, 5 star post. I signed the petition with strong comment. What can we do to get this out. We need mega signatures. Can I suggests that you author another post for comments on how to get more exposure for this issue. We need to move with all speed! Good job all around. How can I help!
6:56am • #54
Steak, Wow. You certainly did your homework. Excellnet job of separating the issues and the pro's/con's. I'm hopeful that the legal process will weed the business burden. Many of these bills start off the size of elephants and are whittled down to pigs. Great post!
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7:05am • #55
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Ray thanks for mapping this out so I can understand it. It will certainly be interesting to see how this all plays out over the next year or so. It's pretty scary out there in real estate land already.  
8:10am • #56

Thanks for the excellent post describing this bill. 

 I'll sign the petition but a separate call or email from all of us individually to our congresspersons would be more persuasive.

8:32am • #57
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Signed. Wow - what utter nonsense.
8:43am • #58
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Signed the petition.  This is not just about our jobs but the entire economy.  Who will take the time to educate, mentor, and find the best loan for each individual situation.  I understand they want to be in control of a troubled housing market - but right now there are enough new laws.  We need to give the economy time to feel the impact from the new laws.  The predatory lenders should be all gone with those new laws. 
9:33am • #59
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Keith: I don't think depressed is the word, I think frustated is more appropriate.

Paul: Sooner or later it will all get orked out!

Allen Thank you!

Fran: Sometimes I think they do not get any help from people in the industry when drafting these bills.

Jefferson: I did nt focus much on the public policy piece simply because of the platform we are on, Active Rain, being a RE networking site.

10:31am • #60
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Tom: You are the man!  There will be another post today about it and more we can do!

Brian: Thank you!

Sally: Thank you!

Chip: The bill would affect every sector of our industry!

Eric: That is a whole different story!

10:33am • #61
Thank you for the information. America's future will be darkened if this bill isn't stopped. I signed the petition and will pass the word.
10:33am • #62
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Michael: Thank you for reading.

David & Lisa: Thank you for reading.

Elizabeth: Thank you for your kind remarks.

David:  Thanks for participating!

Gary:  If all of us speak out I think we can make a difference.

10:38am • #63
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Thanks for the post and keeping us informed of important legislation.
10:39am • #64
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Matt: Thank you.  I think the bill has merit it just needs some adjustments!

Docuchive: More people need to vote!

Elizabeth: Thank you for reading.

Mike: Well said!

Brian: Too true.  They are merely trying to pass this bill so they cansay they are doing something.

10:41am • #65
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Adam: Thank you.  I tried to make it easy for people to see the good and the bad.

Ronald: Mortgage Bankers are not very protected in this.  The larger ones may be but the smaller Mortgage Bankers will suffer as well.

Phaedra: I disagree.  There are too many strikes against the Brokers in this bill.  Assurity bonds, No YSP, Stadandized UW!  It won't be possible for them to compete!

 

10:45am • #66
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Jason Sardi:  Thank you!  That means alot coming from a blogger of your talents!
10:45am • #67
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Jonathan:  Please do!  All I ask is that it is done in a professional manner.

Chris: I agree.  I don't think they were trying to hurt the public but i think they were poorly informed.

Wes: Wel said and well spoken!  Thank you for you comments and I agree that people NEED to take action!

Eric: One of the items that I did not mention is that this bill would expand Section 32 coverage to include most ALT-A products, some goverment products and even some A Paper products!

10:50am • #68
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Jim: Thank you for reading.

Alexander:  Thank you!

Steven: Thank you for reading.

Christy:  Hopefully they will protect us from them!

Steven: Thank you for reading.

10:51am • #69
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Simon: We are resilient people so  do not doubt that but this would be a hobbling blow to the consumer as well!

Lisa: Big Mortgage Banks maybe but the smaller banks do not want this bill to happen the way it is.

Kirk: Sizzling!

Jacqueline Thank you for reading.

Matthew: Thank you for reading.

10:54am • #70
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Dave: Hopefuly if we all voice our opinions they will modify and pass the bill with the Pros only!

Sharon: Thank you for reading.

Paul: Thank you!

James: Mortgage Banks will not fair well if this bill is passed as is.  I think we will have the MBA on our side for this one.

Missy: Thank you for reading.

10:59am • #71
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Jeanean: I will be posting today contact info and letter format for people to send to their congressman.  Please blast this to everyone you can!

Andrew: It took me a while to get through the 66 pages of the bill, the bill summary, the NAMB position and Press release and finally the conference call but it was well worth it!  Thanks as always for visiting my blog!

Broker Bryant: Thank you for visiting my blog.  I am honored and glad that I could get this out to so many people by being featured! 

Bonnie: Keep an eye on my log as i will be posting info about contacting your congressman.

11:03am • #72
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Jennifer: Thank ou!

Joyce: They will be so out of control with this market that they won't know what hit them.

Carole: Thank you!

Kevin & Monica: Thank you for reading.

11:07am • #73
I am glad changes are being made, as we all know in every industry a few bad apples can spoil the bunch.  I believe that anyone that is still in our industry today, reading this message board and taking action really has the communities that we serve at heart.  Not all brokers are out to break the bank and max fees, most of us want to offer the best scenario to our clients that can't walk into the retail banks and secure funding for the homes their families need.  Let's continue to work together and really make a difference now and in the future.  Happy Friday!
Val
11:45am • #74
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Val: I agree.  I hope that we have weeded out the quick buck artist unfortunately if this bill passes we will have to suffer for their misdeeds!
12:02pm • #75

I just signed. Hope it helps.

12:10pm • #76
The market has already made moves to correct itself.  A legislative fix would be overkill, and there would be too many unexpected consequences...all of which would be disastrous for those of us that are still in the business.  Having served in public office, County Commissioner, I understand the desire to legislate what seems like a protective measure.  The problem is that does away with a broker, and leaves the consumer with very few options.  Those few retail lenders no longer need to compete, and they win...not the consumer.  Please let the market continue to fix itself as it has done for many years.
Don O. Staples
12:20pm • #77
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I think the invisible consequence... and probably unintended is that it would cause a dramatic decrease in home values all over the country.  Decreasing the pool of available buyers would decrease the value of homes.  Further, it would concentrate the ability to buy into an investor class... and they would be able to pick up deals.
12:31pm • #78
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Jacqueline: Thank you!

Don: Agreed!

Lane: Yes you are correct. 

1:25pm • #79
Thank you for sharing this important information out our futures! I have passed it on to all my contacts. May God Bless all of us and those whos jobs and business have been and will be affected by this real estate crisis.
1:25pm • #80

I have to agree, but also disagree with you.  I do agree that this bill will help the legitimate brokers, and prevent brokers and lenders from cheating the consumers. This bill will weed out the frauds.

Now this is where I am going to disagree with you.  There are always going to be broker now and in the future.  Lender are still going to offer products that banks don't want to touch, like alt-a products.  Now you have a customer that has ok tradelines, no collections, no bks or judgements, but a score of 650. Now banks will only touch someone with 720 + score.  Does it mean that the 699 with money down and reserves can't buy a home? I don't think so.  That is where we would come in.

So as a licensed mortgage consultant in the state of Wisconsin, I am not going to panic. Some good is going to happen.  

 

Brandie
1:48pm • #81
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This was an excellent post and well laid out analysis of the issues at hand in this bill.  Thanks for writing to inform and educate the wider real estate community.  This reaction on the part of congress shows how far reaching the implications of the real estate and mortgage industry crisis may prove to be.
2:01pm • #82

Rey,

Iisn't it true that most of the mortgage fraud is committed by the brokers and small bankers. You know it is... While you may be honest and operate with integrity, lets face is, most brokers don't.  The public needs to be protected from an industry that mostly operates on deception and fraud.

Get Real
2:19pm • #83
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Brandie: You are certainly entited to your opinion.  Believe me I hope that Mortgage Brokers don't get shut down!  I wouldn't have a job.  I am just looking at the consequences of this bill passing!

Lola:  Thank you!  I appreciate your comments!

2:21pm • #84
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Get Real: At one point in 2005 there were almost 20,000 Active Licensed Mortgage Agents in Nevada.  Today according to www.mld.nv.gov there are:

8285 Active Licensed Mortgage Agents25332 Closed or Inactive Mortgage Agents

 

 

 

In my opinion most of the bad seeds no longer have a license.  I will agree that there were a lot of unscrupulous Brokers AND Bankers and there probably still are.  However, to say that "most brokers" operate on deception and fraud is outright irresponsible!  By the way, it was not just the smaller mortgage banks.  Think about some of the biggies like New Century that did their fair share of questionable activities.

If you truly believe that then why are you hiding behind an anonymous "GET REAL" id.  This is a professional forum and everyone is entiled to their opinion so if you stand behind that statement make yourself be know and we can reasonably debate the issue til the cows come home.

2:30pm • #85

It is not just our pricing that stands out above the rest but also are dedication to the customers needs and educating of our loan products. It is also our determination that stimulates the market. Without our efforts a pretty large percent of real estate transactions would never take place and the stress of buying a house would reach mammoth proportions as ordinary run of the mill paper pushers would be handling each persons transaction. I don't think it will pass yet but in reality the brokers will stand to be the losers and the banks and government (FHA) will stand to be the winners.  I think ulitmately they will try to continue to chip away at us until we are completely eliminated.

Bruce
4:44pm • #86
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Bruce, Well said!  Hopefully we can correct the bill to keep the pros and get rid of the cons!
4:54pm • #87
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Rey, This is a fantastic post. I know I have sent the online petition to many of my clients and explained what this bill really means.  I know the goverment is trying to help but sometimes the do over kill. You did a Great way to explain it
7:05pm • #88
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I casted my vote last night!!!!

If this passes- it will cripple the real estate industry- not just the lenders but the agents, inspectors, appraisers- everyone will be effected and only about 20% of the population will be able to have a mortgage-

Those who are in need of a refinance to get out of the trendy adjustable- will also fall into foreclosure!!!!

What a mess- can't believe they are even thinking about it-

MONOPOLY!!!!!

7:10pm • #89
This is going to kill mortgage pros and seriously damage every other industry on the housing chain.  Appraisal services, surveyors, homebuilders, real estate pros.  It is one shade away from dictatorship.  The free market is the only way to correct the process.  Last time Barny Frank made the headlines it was over an escort service he was running from his government funded apartment in Washington D.C..  Honestly do we need him at the wheel of our industry?
Join NAMB be heard
7:32pm • #90
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Rey, I also clicked the link to vote against this bill. Thanks for the post.....
8:29pm • #91

Hey Rey,

Good Post!  I would like to add something to Bruce's comment above:  "I think ulitmately they will try to continue to chip away at us until we are completely eliminated."

Just like another AR's name "Join NAMB be heard."  MORE people need to join NAMB!!!  We have to become just as big or bigger than the MBA.  There have been too many brokers out there not supporting "their own" association.  NO MORE FREE RIDE!!

 

11:34pm • #92
NOV
03
2007
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Great information.. I made sure I bookmark this one... Thanks for the info...
6:24am • #93

Rey, I think you did a good job of laying out many of the issues here.  For anyone in the mortgage business with access to Mortgage Market Guide, Barry Habib released a conference call with an attorney laying out many of the issues in an outstanding way.

As many of the posts here indicate, this is not just about the mortgage business.  This will have far reaching implications on the entire real estate business.  Consider that, according to one mortgage business leader, over 70% of all loans originated in the past few years benefitted from one form of reduced documentation or another.  Agencies will routinely approve loans that "make sense" with ratios exceeding 50%.  Borrowers rarely ever pay closing costs up front, they are almost always paid by rolling into the loan amount when conducting a refi.  All these loans would have been impacted, stopping millions of real estate closings in their tracks.

While the industry needs to do a better job of self-regulation, the far reaching implications of what is included in this bill will dramatically alter the landscape for all of us in the business of serving people who own and buy residential real estate. 

However, unless the focus can be taken off the mortgage broker shouting that it will run them out of the business and onto the millions of homeowners that will be impacted by this, you are likely to get run over.

For anyone that thinks current market conditions are poor with declining sales, increasing inventories, and falling prices, I believe that these might be viewed as the "good old days" in comparison to what could come.

Don't get caught up on the YSP issue.  This is one component that yes, would impact all of us, including me as I work as a broker.  However, this isn't an issue to Congress at the moment.  And if they upset a couple of hundred thousand mortgage brokers in the process, that will be the price for reform. I'm not saying it doesn't need to be pulled back, it does, I just don't think this is what many mortgage brokers need to be screaming at the moment.

What will make a difference is that if the millions of people in the industries impacted by this bill raise their hand and say "Stop!"  Then we will have time to allow for something reasonable to be written that will be more beneficial. 

Jim Sahnger
6:42am • #94
It will be interesting to see what happens...It is going to effect everyone!  My husband is a mortgage broker and I am a banker..Plus like you said if they get rid of all of the "out of the box" loans.. that will not make things easier!  
7:05am • #95
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Matthew: Thanks for your comments!

Maureen: It is unfortuate that we have to fight this.

JOIN NAMB BE HEARD: I agree every Mortgage Broker in this country should be a NAMB member! 

1:12pm • #97
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Doug:  Thank you for signing the petition!

Doug: Very true!  The MBA is huge and when they have to fight lawmakers their voice is heard because of their numbers!

Donna:  Thank you!

 

1:14pm • #98
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Jim: Very well said!  I am not focused on the YSP.  I am focused on the fact that this will cripple a Mortgage Brokers ability to operate.  Unfortunately, in order to make sure people understand the full ramifications we have to explain every aspect of the problem, YSP incuded!

Naoma: Good luck to you and your husband!

Michael:  Thank you!

1:18pm • #99
NOV
04
2007

Well, isn’t this interesting.  It appears a few in Washington have finally grown a pair.  Not to stop this unbridled spending, not to stop this illegal occupation of Iraq that is costing 2 billion per week, not to stop off shoring of jobs, not to do anything about this enormous deficit.  You’re going to use you newly acquired appendages to totally screw-up the Real Estate and Mortgage industry.  Kudos!

Moe
11:04am • #100
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Nestor:  The reason your first post did not show up is because I removed it.  Typically, it is not good blog etiquette to place links away from a blog post in a comment. I am not saying that you are, but some people will use a blog post that is popular to get people to other sites, post, blogs, etc.  I as a standard delete any posts that have links away from from my blog.  Sorry.

Moe:  If you have something to say, say it!  Don't hold back! LOL  You go!

2:22pm • #101
NOV
05
2007

Well, here we go again with the government stepping in to save us all. A far as I can tell the US government is the worst run business in the country, yet they feel like we need saving from ourselves. Since when is it "predatory" to profit from a transaction? Granted, we have a mess, but the mess was created by Wall Street, they created the guidelines, we just sold them. If people were taken advantage of then they should of read the docs thoroughly and made a intelligent decision. Is it a crime when you buy sandwich and the restaraunt sells it for more than they paid? Of course not, theres no difference, its just the greedy wall street investors made a mistake. Look, if you loan someone 100% LTV, state the income, and they have  a 580 CS, what do you expect???

Bottomline, the accountability has been directed towards brokers because they don't have the money to take on banks, although they offer better rates 9 out of 10 times. They are scapegoats because its easier to take them down then  to go after corporate giants like Countrywide. Pretty dissapointing...and the worst of it is this law is going to kill an already bad market, what then? How come they haven't shut down stock brokerages, far more money has been lost on this type of gambling? Not everyone should own a home and not everyone should dictate whats best for the American people. These people were not retarded, right? There were no guns put to their heads to sign loan docs, right? For God sakes, don't buy a home if you can't understand how the loan works!

Alex
7:57pm • #103
NOV
07
2007
Obviously HR 3915 has a lot of real estate professionals in an uproar.  The mortgage fallout has just begun and HR 3915 has been introduced to repair what has proven to be a flawed system.  It will be passed, maybe not the way it reads now, but in some format.  I think YSP issues and the bulk of what HR 3915 attempts to do should take a backseat to HR 3609.  If HR 3609 passes, it would basically strip thr rights of mortgage bankers to enforce mortgage obligations, asit would allow bankruptcy courts to modify the terms of a loan on a troubled borrower's principal residence.  If this were to happen, you can bet [1] bankruptcy filings will skyrocket and [2] interest rates would rise based on lender's increased liability.  Arguing about 3915 is certainly valid, but it becomes far less important, if it is established through 3609 that the government can actually interfere on a case-by-case basis and ultimately change the terms of an arms length transaction. 
Jason Kapit, Esq./REALTOR - Weston, FL
1:50pm • #104

Jack Kaspit, Esq./Realtor of Weston, FL, wrote:

 'Obviously HR 3915 has a lot of real estate professionals in an uproar.  The mortgage fallout has just begun and HR 3915 has been introduced to repair what has proven to be a flawed system.  It will be passed, maybe not the way it reads now, but in some format.  I think YSP issues and the bulk of what HR 3915 attempts to do should take a backseat to HR 3609.  If HR 3609 passes, it would basically strip thr rights of mortgage bankers to enforce mortgage obligations, asit would allow bankruptcy courts to modify the terms of a loan on a troubled borrower's principal residence.  If this were to happen, you can bet [1] bankruptcy filings will skyrocket and [2] interest rates would rise based on lender's increased liability.  Arguing about 3915 is certainly valid, but it becomes far less important, if it is established through 3609 that the government can actually interfere on a case-by-case basis and ultimately change the terms of an arms length transaction. '

OH, wonderful!!!! Another piece of ill-considered, poorly devised, knee-jerk legislation to worry about. When will the boys and girls on The Hill quit sticking their grimy, greasy fingers into everything? And, a bigger question, who exactly is spear-heading these quixotic campaigns aimed at our industry? There has to be some self-serving snake at the bottom of this, someone who stands to profit from the aftermath that would ensue form these bills being passed. I shudder when I consider just how myopic our Congressional Representatives and Senators must be to not see how these pieces of legislative offal will impact the consumer and drive the economy into a state which will take potentially decades to recover from. Can someone EEG readings on these folks!

9:42pm • #105
NOV
08
2007

We up here in Minnesota have already basically experienced this bill in effect for us now and, as such, there are a TON of brokers,realtors and title people that are no longer around-and there are a LOT of realtors I know that are bartending. 

Think what you want about brokers (they are getting the bad rep this year) but there are good and bad apples in every industry.  There wasn't anyone that was forced to sign anything.  People are free to shop mortgage rates/fee's/service at any time and to ask questions about anything they don't understand.  It is sad that everyone has to have someone else to blame for their situations-except themselves.  The fraud cases are, of course, a different story.

Personally, the inability for YSP is the big thing for me.  I use YSP almost all of the time to keep my clients closing costs down.  I give them a spreadsheet and let them chose the rates and closing costs they want and most of the time, they take the lower closing costs option.  I'll still be able to work with my spreadsheet but, it won't be as advantagous for the client.

Too bad the people in power to create these bills aren't the people that know what is really wrong with the industry.

 

4:42pm • #106

Oh, and it will pass-and it'll pass without any problems.

It's getting into election time so everyone is going to be trying to do what they can to make it look like they fixed a bad situation-and be the "good guy".

As usual, when that happens, it only makes things worse.

 

4:44pm • #107
NOV
14
2007

Thanks for the information.  It's difficult enough to make a living in the real estate industry and related businesses now.  whoever said the entire economy will be in trouble if this passes ws absolutely correct.  I see that here in Kansas City Metro.  Thanks again, Mary Lou

Mary Lou Gallagher
4:19pm • #108
NOV
15
2007
Ray - Why do they call you steak dinner?
Mike "Lobster Lunch" Chavkin
10:47am • #109
NOV
16
2007
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I am not so worried about federal legislation, but state legislation...they are even more "knee-jerk" and over-correcting.  Massachusetts, Nevada, are perfect examples of over-reaching legislation.
9:08am • #110
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Ray - in NC one of the POSITIVE things that came from the legislation was a stronger Brokers Conference. 
10:35am • #111
The question is does anyone know if it passed the house yesterday??? I've been nervously been watching the outcome.
11:23am • #112
Yes it passed the house
mortgagebroker.com
11:47am • #113
NOV
20
2007
Change is always creating fear for those that will be most affected by it.  In this case,  it is back to basics.  And those of us in the profession that don't work for the big branded bank, it will be a change to adapt to.  I think it will continue to thin out the ranks of us that have not padded on the Teflon to withstand the regulations coming down the pike.  And you know what?  Those lenders that have experience in sales and marketing and street experience  will survive.  And those that don't understand how to play the game out of the box will be gone soon. If you are one of the lucky ones to be left standing, you better look around and smell the roses.  Yes, the roses in the vases surrounding the fields of gold.  Because thise that want to ride this out will find themselves in a market might be tougher, but the amount of competition will be significantly less.  Think about it?  You'll do more! 
12:19am • #114
NOV
24
2007

Rey,

In response to your coment:

 "Nestor:  The reason your first post did not show up is because I removed it.  Typically, it is not good blog etiquette to place links away from a blog post in a comment. I am not saying that you are, but some people will use a blog post that is popular to get people to other sites, post, blogs, etc.  I as a standard delete any posts that have links away from from my blog.  Sorry."

I am sorry you did not check my comment before deleting it. I never thought I was breaking any blogging etiquette by adding official information that would complement and enrich the information you posted. I thought that information had been useful. I was not linking to my blog, but to an article related to the topic, published here by one of my best bloggers here, a link to an explanation to what YSP is, and an official link. I have seen that before in other blogs, I never thought it was against your rules, sorry.

Best,

Nestor

7:34pm • #115
MAR
26
2008
I am amazed and outraged that I didn't know about this before! I know this post is old, I saw the date and yet I had no idea this was happening! I've always said that the mortgage industry needs to find a way to eliminate the "commission only" broker. I think this practice does encourage predatory lending....obviously, but since not ALL of us push loans on people that they have no business being in and not ALL of us push the interest rate up through the clouds in order to make a buck, the legislation would not have been fair and I'll make sure to watch for other legislation like this one. 
5:50pm • #116
APR
25
2008

That was a good bill- only your selfish interests are not so wel served...

Scummy mortgage brokers go backto flipping hamburgers.  You had no business making that kind of money while educated professionals like teachers, cops, firemen, scientists, nurses, doctors required educations and criminal backgorund screenings to enter their professions.

So eat that bill

 

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