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8 Comments on Backing the Big Banks Down - one small step for mankind.
This one goes to the good guys! Thank you for sharing your post. I have been blogging for many months about Dodd-Frank being such a ripe-off. As you know this bill was sold as in the interest of the consumer. This entire bill needs to re repealed!
Until recently, I had no idea that vendors were charged by the banks when a customer used a debit card rather than a credit card. I knew that credit card use created a 5-6% charge to the merchant/vendor. I didn't think about a charge to the vendor/merchant when a customer opted to use their debit card.
Dodd-Frank is a horrendously over-reaching bill that does more damage to the system than it corrects. Many unintended consequences. There may be one or two good ideas contained there-in, but when you get something this huge and this far reaching, you know there's gonna be problems. The other problem is - as much a friend as Barney Frank has been to real estate interests, he and Dodd were on the front lines getting us into this mess in the first place - now we're entrusting them to get us back out? Saints preserve us.
Lenn, according to some of the folks I met in DC, including one guy who owns numerous 7/11 outlets on the east coast, due to marketing by the banks on the use of debit cards, as much as 80% of his traffic now pays for their purchases by debit card. The fees, prior to Durbin, averaged $.45 per transaction. He said if somebody comes in to buy a .99 cup of coffee or a USA Today or WSJ, he would actually lose less money to just give them the dang thing. There were over 200 separate categories that applied to different size businesses and purchases, and whether you used your debit card as a debit or credit card etc.
Unfortunately we as consumers will probably never see much savings from this as these (mostly) small businesses will simply pocket the difference, or hopefully use it to hire another person. Big businesses like Home Depot and WalMart used their size to leverage lower fees but the difference to them is in the millions of dollars saved every year. Again, we will probably never see those savings directly but maybe they'll hire a couple more people. I know ARCO gas in CA used to charge a $.45 surcharge for using your debit OR credit card and they've dropped that to $.35. I guess that's a small win.
Hi Gene - Thanks for an interesting and enlightening read. There is a very worrisome practice in effect by all big financial institutions right now of passing the cost of their mistakes on to the consumer. It has been very apparent in the insurance industry, where the cost of risk used to based on actuarial models for specific risk pools, but is now being determined by the principal of maintaining an "acceptable" level of corporate profit. Same idea, different players, same mugging of consumers. Basically, they're turning us upside down and shaking us to see if by chance there might still be some loose change in our pockets.
Very appropriate analogy Dick. That loose change is about all some of us have left after Obama. Don't think that was the kind of change he was hoping for. How are things in the Fort? I went to CSU and still have many good friends in the area. Great town.
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The real reason that banks want to charge more is that they no longer can make massive profits trading. That doesn't mean that they are denied the ability to trade, it is just that it isn't as profitable. And many people are saving now, not spending.
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