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 As most of you know by now, Congress is looking for a solution to a very real problem. Whether election year grand standing or honest efforts to help Americans, the result could be the same. The very people they are trying to protect could be harmed.

If you are in the Real Estate industry or own a home, this will impact you! If you are self-employed or receive a 1099 you will be discriminated against!!

This Bill will be voted on Tuesday and if approved, will move to the House Floor. Please respond to the link at the bottom today!!

Yesterday I wrote about how eliminating YSP could greatly hamper the ability of the lending industry to provide appropriate loans for Americans. What I don't Like About HR 3915 Pt 1. Today I want to touch on the Stated Income component of the bill.

Stated Income, for those who aren't aware, is used in lie of fully documenting a borrower's income. When used correctly, it allows a self employed businessman or woman to get a home loan they know they can afford, but can't prove with income taxes.

The IRS code favors those who are able to take advantage of deductions. It's built into the system. There are basically 4 types of legal wage earners.

  • W-2 wage earner, works for someone else and receives a paycheck.
  • Self-employed, owns her own business.
  • Independent contractor, works for some one else, but is responsible for his own taxes and often expenses.
  • W-2 wage earner with another source of incomeworks for someone else but also has additional income.

In all 4 situations, a creative CPA will allow you to show a significant reduction in your income. This is the law and our government has approved it.

Under the new proposal, you could have 4 borrowers, all with the same credit score, all making the same amount of money. All with roughly the same personal debt. But 3 of the 4 could be discriminated against, just because they don't fit a "normal" wage earner.

Borrower A makes $100,000 per year and has w-2's to prove it. His CPA has taken advantage of legal tax deductions for family and property and while his income is adjusted for tax purposes, it's not for lending purposes. He still shows $100,000.


Borrower B makes $100,000 per year but owns his own business. His CPA has asked him to leave most of his $100,000 in the business. As a result, his taxes show minimal income, yet he has just as much spending power as borrower A. The lender will want to see 2 years tax returns, a current P&L, bank statements, and then still might not give him the same loan as borrower A.

Borrower Cmakes $100,000 per year but works for someone else. She is given a 1099 at the end of the year. Her situation is very similar to Borrower B, but most likely wouldn't be quite so extreme.

Borrower D makes $80,000 in w-2 wages and $20,000 in a hobby business. Unless he has an extremely strong case, the lender will only give credit to teh $80,000 w-2 wages.

With a Stated Income loan, all 4 borrowers can be treated equally, or at least fairly closely. At 90% loan to value, with a credit score over 700, I can get the same loan and interest rate for all 4. At lower credit scores or higher loan to values, the market prices the rate according to the associated risk.

When used correctly, a Stated Income loan is another tool that a professional mortgage planner uses to meet the needs of his/her clients. It shouldn't be used to get more home then someone can afford, but it should be available for a borrower who can make the payments.

Isee this bill as being very discriminatory towards small business and independent contractors.

Without Stated Income Loans:

  • We will have government controlled loan programs 
  • Many homeowners who can afford a home will be excluded from that home or market.
  • Home prices will drop as many borrowers are unable to document their ability to pay.

My Solution?Continue to allow Stated Income loans but have lenders scrutinize the appropriateness and increase the penalties for Fraud. Yes, we currently have laws on the book to deal with abuse. Don't introduce new laws, enforce the ones you already have!!

If you agree please write to representative today!!

You can go here to look up and contact your representative. Just plug in your state and zip code and it populates your representative:   

Larry Morris is a loan Officer with American Nationwide Mortgage in Newberg, Oregon. He specializes in relocations and Sherwood, Oregon neighborhoods and Yamhill County. He is a Board Member of the Sherwood Chamber of Commerce.He can be reached at larry@PDX-Mortgage.com. His website is http://www.pdx-mortgage.com/. This material is copy protected 2007 by Larry Morris, Mortgage News that Matters. All Rights Reserved His opinions do not necessarily represent the views of American Nationwide Mortgage.

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9 Comments on What I don't Like About HR 3915 Pt 2

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Larry - you bring up some great points that I have not read in other blogs or emails I have received this week. I have flagged you for a feature. This is an important post! Thank you for taking time to do research and writing.
1:12pm • #1
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Thanks Mary. I don't think the bill will be approved as it stands, but who knows what will finally happen. There are almost as many proposals on the table as candidates running for office.
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Approval of HR3915 would eliminate me (Realtor) and my partner (building contractor) from getting a loan even though our scores are well over 700, our assets are verifiable and our payment history on all mortgages (rental properties) is flawless.

This bill is no remedy and as you pint out, we don't need new laws - we have plenty, we just need to enforce what we have.

Great post.

12:47pm • #4
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I remember in the 70s and 80s it was very difficult for the self employed to get a loan unless they were willing to put down at least 20 to 25%. I wonder if that's where we're going?

There are a lot of concerns regarding this bill, I hope they're able to work them out!

Thanks for all the info.

2:49pm • #5
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What I love is that not only do you have issues with HR 3915 (which we all should!), but it took you TWO blog entires to cover them all!

Thats awesome.

8:19pm • #6

Fantastic post Larry.  I agree with every word.  Also, I really liked how you put in links, because that makes finding things on the internet so easy.  Thank you for the links.

By the way,  I have been meaning to call you and talk.  I kinda dropped the ball on getting back with you there.  Sorry about that.

I'll be gone until Wednesday.  I'll try to send you an email or give you a call just to touch base.  Thank your for your patience.  You contacted me a while back, and I called you back but you were camping.  Then I tried once but you were out of the office.  But honestly, as a professional salesperson, I should have tried again and actually nailed things down and called 'till I got you.  Maybe we can try again.

Friends, and I really do respect your blogs,

Randy Bolton

9:10pm • #7
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Wendy - Thanks for your comment. I agree. Stated Income in and of itself isn't the problem.

Orlando - It wouldn't surprise me to see tighter requirements for Stated. We're already pretty high for cash out.

Ed - I coulda made it 4 or 5 based on the flaws...

Randy - Thanks Randy

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Business opportunity and commercial real estate investment property options include special purpose businesses such as gas stations and motels.Acquiring a business opportunity excludes commercial property investing. Without real estate, the business loan value will be primarily determined by the business instead of real estate.
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