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96 Comments on How Do You Think Your Current (and Future) Clients Might Feel About Your 80/20 Plan?
I'm too busy looking after my current clients to prospect, but my phone always rings. Maybe it should be 80% client service/20% prospecting and prospect AFTER you've looked after your clients...
I just can't see how it would be possible to give your current client s20% of your time and no more. They would have an awful experience and never refer you to anyone they know. Especially if you are working with first time home buyers who need a lot more hand holding. I didn't see the blog you were referring to but can't imagine anyone can do this unless they have a full time partner in real estate and that person is spending 80% on the current clients and 20% prospecting.
So many good comments, and I'm being 100% sincere when I say that all the support I'm reading here for making client service a priority over prospecting has restored my faith in our industry, which, frankly has been shaken lately by featured blog after featured blog that celebrates everything the general public already finds distasteful about us... And more discouraging than the blogs themselves were the dozens and dozens of enthusiastic comments that followed, many of which virtually oozed disdain for the people who make our careers possible, our clients.
Hey, everyone is entitled to their opinion... anyone is welcome to run their business the way they see fit... and there ARE many paths to success... but it makes me very happy to see so many here choosing the path that puts our clients where they belong - our top priority. Not only is it the RIGHT thing to do, it's also a dandy business model for success!
If the majority of the time I was engaged in "sales" then I would be in another field. I devote a lot of effort and energy into making my clients happy and sometimes I feel like I'm in the counseling business, but this works out well for me and my clients.
Hi Jennifer,
This is a GREAT blog. Prospecting is important in any business, but so is client care and reputation. If your clients feel neglected, then they absolutely won't recommend you to anyone they know who needs a real estate agent. Business through referrals is a powerful tool, and if you're good enough at pleasing your current clients, then you can bet that you'll get even more business because of their recommendations! Prospecting is a priority, but it shouldn't be above your dedication and commitment to your current client base and home sales. The administrative tasks that assistants do is only part of the effort...the rest comes from your communicating with the client and making them feel taken care of. Thanks for posting this! It sheds a light on what you should be focusing on as a real estate agent.
I think the 80/20 rule is pushed to those who want to be selling machines. I'm in this business because I enjoy taking care of my clients. In some ways that counts towards prospecting based on future referrals. But clients first is always my goal.
Jill - y'know - you really nailed the essence of the debate. Someone who has any desire to prospect 80% of the time is a true salesperson who probably should be working in an industry that doesn't require so much "service after the sale." I got into real estate because I truly enjoyed the process of managing a real estate transaction, not because I wanted to look for buyers and sellers all the time. I wanted to SERVE buyers and sellers, and the time I had to spend finding those buyers and sellers was an inconvenience, not what I got up in the morning rarin' to do!
I, like you, would have quit after a month if, to make a decent living, you had to sell, sell, sell 80% of the time!
In my humble opinion, 80/20 is too slanted towards prospecting. But, I think that agents expecting to build a big business should spend more time prospecting than servicing. Roles change. When you get to the point that you have more business than you can handle, you need more agents. Competent ones at that. You become the rainmaker. You pass off deals and take a smaller cut and continue to prospect. That's the way to grow a very substantial business. If you want to work with the clients forever, you won't be growing a seven figure business (at least in most cases).
Whoa Jennifer, Excellent post and question. I thin the 80/20 also boils down to dealing with the 20% that must be done and NOT the 80% of just holding a customer's hand who for example is a chatterbox.
Hi Jennifer...I'd hate to think I paid money to hear that kind of advice. For someone is just starting out with only one or two clients this might make some sense. For the rest of us, no way. I don't work hard to get clients only to shortchange them.
Re-blogging.
Kate
Jennifer, I'm not surprised that this post engendered so many thoughtful comments. I am more in the 20/80 camp with you, however, if one views providing the exceptional service to our current clients that so many have referenced in their comments here as a form of prospecting in and of itself (really, aren't happy satisfied clients the source of new ones through referrals?) then much of the time devoted to that exemplary service could be somewhat attributed to time devoted to prospecting too. And if that were the case, then much more time would be prospecting since we'd be viewing servicing current clients especially well as prospecting! Does that make sense to anyone but me?
It's hard for me to fathom how anyone could disagree with you. I missed the post(s) recommending that agents spend the majority of their time looking for new business instead of taking care of current business.
It's true that many real estate tasks, such as posting a listing to MLS or putting up a sign, can be delegated, but so can many prospecting tasks. In fact, much of an agent's prospecting can be automated.
Meanwhile, a client who has chosen you deserves your attention.
Meanwhile, to Allyson (#88)... Yes, that makes sense. Customer service IS a form of prospecting.
Ann, comment #70 - here's a blog I wrote my first year on AR back in 2007 about how we compare ourselves to doctors and lawyers, but... um... http://activerain.com/blogsview/115060/doctors-and-lawyers-and-real-estate-agents-
Marte - Now THAT made me laugh - so much of traditional real estate "salesmanship" is really a series of administrative tasks that can be automated and definitely delegated! And it's also hard for me to see how anyone could disagree that taking care of clients as a first priority is a bad idea, but trust me, agents and trainers say that EVERY DAY, out loud even! Blows my mind.
Allyson - I did a teleseminar show a few years back about providing exceptional client service and I made the statement that I worked 60 hours a week sometimes taking care of my clients, but "you know how many of those hours were spent prospecting? NONE. Or, maybe I should say, ALL." Because it's true - if you devote your full attention to your current clients and thrill them with your service, they WILL notice and they WILL take care of you.
Mike - I believe that it might be a respectable business model to have a rainmaker on the team who is solely focused on finding clients that his or her partner then services. But the partner is just that - a PARTNER, not an assistant or transaction coordinator. It's the notion that what we do aside from prospecting is somehow insignificant and inferior to the activities of the rainmaker that really bewilders me.
I understand how important prospecting is, and I spend a lot of time doing it, but you have to balance that time to meet the needs of your clients and do a good job for them. Afterall, we get a lot of referrals from past clients, too!
First let me say that a client is someone your firm and you represent, whether seller or buyer. Then and only then, do you have the fiduciary responsibility to take care of the Clients best interest. Having said that I couldn't agree more with Jennifer on all points. The reasons for the "Industry Mind Set" are too many to list but the Business Model is broken and needs "front end alignment" with today's Marketplace. Ya think? Under the Old model getting the Listings was the key to doing business. I believe that is changing. There are many options for sellers and they all offer choices on services and fees. What a novel idea! The concept of REPRESENTATION has never been defined, taught or enforced by real estate commissions, principal brokers or NAR. The emphasis is on DOING BUSINESS (PROSPECTING/LISTING ETC. CONTROL) The how and why is not important. However, todays consumer is more educated (not just formally) and knowledgeable and sees the ROLE OF AGENTS as assistants to make appointments, show houses etc. Most buyers think the agent they are working with is representing them and therefore expect too much from the agent. When I taught real estate I clearly defined the difference between Representation and Compenstion. this is something that should be taught/promoted/enforced. Back in the Day, the one who paid you was who you represented. NOT ANYMORE. The Client relationship is much more serious than most agents are taught to believe. this is a people business not selling real estate. the better the agent takes care of their Clients and assists other consumers the better their business will be in the long run. A good analogy is the CEO who makes decisions today to look good this quarter to please Wall ST and does not consider the effect on the company's future position or the stockholders. first you have to under stand what you are really doing and why you do it. I blame the industry in its entirety for the Mind Set of most agents and the only way to fix it is for each person to start from scratch and rebuild from the bottom up. My grandfather taught me a long time ago that if you really care about people and take care of them the business will succeed. Maybe we need to look back to go forward. Education and Training is only good if people want to do the right thing for the right reasons. thanks
My clients know we give great service, and they also know they might hear from me or my assistant throughout the transaction. Many times they will call me, and I will have my assistant call back with the answer. She always asks if she has answered their questions fully, and would they like me to call them when I am free. 99% of the time, clients are satisfied with her calling them back. Frees me up to prospect!
The most effective prospecting I have ever done was to take of the client at hand. I try to make every client believe they are the only one. It works for me.
Here's my follow-up... finally!
http://activerain.com/blogsview/2607682/80-20-prospecting-service-model-let-s-turn-that-around-can-i-interest-you-in-a-20-80-model-
You will have a tough time growing a successful business with that mentality. Just about every large, successful business has 80% of it's activities handled by $12 an hour clerks, while they make billions in profits. You act as if there is no way to provide examplary service that is worth a premium commission without being hands on 40 hours per week. You are missing the boat big time, and need to go read Gary Keller's Millionaire Real Estate Agent.
An inventor may spend hundreds of hours on his invention, but once it's done and gone to market...he may never work another day in his life, yet his invention is still worth lots of money to the consumer because of the service it provides, regardless of whether he is handmaking them himself any longer.
As an agent, I could spend weeks on an unbelievable marketing plan, the best in the business, one that produces a flood of buyers for my sellers, and top dollar for their home. I could spend thousands paying for copywriters to write compelling ad copy that I use in my marketing, and train an assistant to implement my strategy on every listing. If it produces RESULTS, then it's worth the commission...regardless of whether I am hands-on with the process any longer.
My job, now that I have created this incredible process/system that produces results and demands a premium commission, is to spend 80% (or more) of my time getting the word out (prospecting) so that others can experience the same success that I have created for other customers, and feel passionately about helping others with as well.
I appreciate your point. It is very hard to maintain prospecting activities when you actually have business to complete.
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