So, all real estate agents know (or sure as hell should know) discrimination in housing based on race is illegal.  Any real estate agent with any sense of right and wrong should know that discrimination in any venue is also immoral.  This is 2011.  There have been enough court cases over the years to cement the fact that even if you are a racist pig, you can not discriminate.  The National Association of Realtors trumpets the fact that all of their members sign a pledge to be ethical.

       I don't think my experience over the better part of the last decade is unusual.  Racist are alive and well and a big part of the housing market.  I have had many buyers of one race inquire about the presence of another race in a neighborhood. I have followed the politically correct line of directing the individual to outside sources that may provide them with the information they are seeking.  One thing I have learned, it seems that people like to live in communities where their particular race is the majority.  I have to offer a caveat, the younger generation is more balanced and more concerned with the things that should matter...i.e. commuting time, access to public transportation, etc.

Now to be honest, I have fired clients because of their particular feelings about other races.  I have returned to my office and effectively dumped some clients after they shared a pejorative term about another race.  I have been a manager and had to counsel agents regarding their belief that a landlord can limit a home to one race.  I even lost a battle and an agent when they refused to follow the law.

The sticky situation comes up when you are already representing someone and out of the clear blue they ask you...

Is she black?

        This happens.  You are knee deep in representation.  You are in the middle of a transaction.  So what do you do?  I calmly explain that if you are asking if the applicant has good credit, I can get you the credit report. If you are asking has the applicant paid their rent in the past, I can get you that information as well as the condition that they left their prior home.  The fact that you are asking me "Is she black?", concerns me. Because the color of a person has nothing to do with their credit, if they paid rent on time in the past or the condition they left their prior home.  The whole conversation leaves me feeling ill.  It is one thing to accept the fact that racist pigs are alive and well today.  It really feels very slimy to think that you are dealing with one.

         I will be the first to honestly admit that real estate is slow.  I certainly would love to represent more clients.  I have references.  I have experience. I just don't have much tolerance for closet racists.  I would rather go become a greeter at Wal mart than have to deal with them.  Forgive the negative tone, but one phone conversation can really bring me down.

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2011
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Yes, any racist remark is distasteful. 

You'll may be very pleased to hear that racist remarks or incidents are extremely rare in Silicon Valley and throughout the San Francisco Bay area and, I think, throughout CA.  I've been a realtor out here since 1976 have never really heard a racial slur while working.  Caucasions are less than 50% of the population.

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John,

It's a tough enough job as it is without having to deal with that crap.

Rich

10:45pm • #2
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17
2011
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Well, John Dear.  Dear John.  You may be looking for racism where it doesn't exist.  You exhibited that tendancy when you accused me of being a racist when the AZ immigration law was passed.

Sadly, we are at a time of Political Correctness where the mere utterance of the word "black" brands a speaker as a racist.  

Such a question really has no answer.  It could be simple curiosity, which is now not PC for folks who go through life looking for racists in our midst.

Is there racism in real estate practices??  HA!  Of course there is.  It's alive and well.  Deal with it.

10:14am • #3
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06
2011
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Lenn Harley........... you are a person respected by many. I happen to think you share words of wisdom that would enhance the lives of any reader.

I may be looking for racism where it does not exist. That might be the result of my being hyper-sensitive to racism. I just don't like it. I don't like it when anyone is judged on their race, creed, color, sex, ethnicity, sexual preference, size, weight, etc.

I have spent my life in a white person's body. I have spent the majority of my life around white people. I have been in professional (?) settings where racism was the basis for profiling. I have been in social settings where racist jokes have been told. While I have lots of acquaintences, I don't have a lot of friends. 

People don't like to be called out. I suppose one of the reasons I am a real estate agent is that I never fit in the corporate or retail world.  I have always been the "asshole" that has to point out the implications of racist jokes or comments.

Regardless of my sensitivity, I do know when a question is asked, what the root of the question might be. The question is usually part of a conversation. The question usually is asked with a tone of voice that can not be mistaken. 

The mere use of the word "black" is not the problem. Political Correctness is just a stupid label created by those that fear using the correct term (i.e. racist, sexist, mysogynist, etc) when describing a comment or action. With or without Politically Correct guidelines, you can not put lipstick on a pig.

To the point of your final sentence. "Deal with it." I am. I deal with it by writing blogs, correcting strangers, speaking up and speaking out.

I am not self righteous but I do answer to a higher authority.

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A  disassociated question like "is she black?" has no place in the transaction.  Any more than asking "is she Catholic, is she Gay, or is she Republican?"

It has no bearing on their credit-worthiness, and I would have no problem responding "Now why would you ask such a question?  You know I can't respond to that!".

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First they came for the communists, and I didn't speak out...
then they came for the union members, and I didn't speak out...
then they came for the Jews, and I still didn't speak out...
then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak out...

Paraphrased from Martin Niemöller.

1:21pm • #5
FEB
06
2012

This question was asked by a listing agent for a rental for which I am working with a tenant.  My initial reply was does that really make a difference and she said I just wanted to let my owner know.  I said I don't think you are even allowed to ask that question. Her reply was I'll take that as a yes.  I was steaming a bit at this point and then she said you should know that we are working with two other offers.  At the start of this conversation the agent asked what my customer was offering.  I told her the asking price.  I don't know if I should tell my manager now or wait and see if I can get my customer the apartment,  Its in a two family house, so I don't think the owner is at any risk.  But if it was their request that the listing agent filter out certain tenants than the agent should have passed on the listing.  I don't know if this piece even belongs in this blog.

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