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RESPONSE to You Want the Tenant to Pay WHAT by Cindy Jones Atlanta Metro ODAT Realty CDPE Advanced Buy Lease Sell Buckhead Atlanta GA

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with Atlanta Homes ODAT Realty - Love our Great City - Love our Clients! Buckhead - Midtown - Westside

RESPONSE to
You Want the Tenant to Pay WHAT ...
by Cindy Jones Northern Virginia from Atlanta Metro ODAT Realty CDPE Advanced Buy Lease Sell Buckhead Atlanta GA

Cindy Jones posted a blog after an unbelievable Tenant/Landlord interaction. I was drawn to her post because I have managed leased properties since 1973. Well, Cindy raised a complicated topic. Love those, don't you?

(Follow the link above for the WHOLE story or accept this really SHORT outline:After one week in a home, Tenant reports HVA/C failure.  Landlord wants to collect $75. deductible for repairs from Tenant. Then Cindy asks for opinions...)

 My answer to Cindy - below - an amplified comment after advice from John Juarez.


 Dear Cindy, 
This is a question I am HAPPY to answer!
ODAT Realty manages leased property.  The leases do say that the Tenant is responsible for the first $50. of any repair. That came into play after Tenants would call for light bulbs to be changed - yes - 
for light bulbs to be changed! Then there are the Plumbing calls because the toilet is not working and it turns out Junior stuffed a tennis ball inside. Or the electricity isn't working and we find that they have overloaded the panel or put pennies in the fuse box! That's our reasoning for putting the Tenant on notice that not everything is the responsibility of the Landlord.

That being said, a Landlord has a responsibility to be reasonable and self-caring at the same time. A Landlord has the option to exempt the Tenant from a charge that is CLEARLY the Landlord's responsibility - such as your example.  In the Atlanta area - pipes bursting when we have our one or two winter freezes often engender the "WHO IS RESPONSIBLE?" question. Our company policy is to analyze each instance. Did the Tenant have the heat on? Then given the age of the pipes, it probably is the Landlord's responsibility.  Did the Tenant go out of town and leave the heat set at 50 degrees even though the Tenant signed the Lease promising not to leave the heat set too low in the winter? 

Then we come to a different response.  Some commenters (thanks, Dick!) said that there should be firm company policies. That would work if you were managing properties that all fit the same category - same age - same systems.  In our case, we have had properties that were built in 1911 at the same time as ones just built that year in the 21st century! No one set of rules would match up for each property.

The $50.00 charge ($75. in the DC area and $100. elsewhere according to a comment Cindy's blog) is a talking point for the big question - "WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY IS IT THIS TIME"?  ODAT Realty will often pay an entire repair call when it is a long-term Tenant or a Tenant that has gone out of the way to take care of the property. Don't we all spend money on Marketing?  If my Tenant tells friends at a gathering how well the Tenant is treated by the Landlord/Management - isn't that Tenant doing Marketing for our firm? 

The reason I said that the Landlord should be "self-caring" above is that the big expense is the turnover between tenants. Keeping the same Tenant is always the most economical manner to lease.  The $75. is nothing if it means avoiding the turn-around expenses.

John Juarez said: " Rental properties are also called business properties. To be successful in business the owner/manager needs to exercise good judgment." 

Cindy -  I usually ask myself if I want to keep the Tenant. I ask myself if the Tenant is likely to bring another Tenant when he/she leaves? If the answers are"yes" - then I have the option to NOT charge for the first $50. and build the relationship instead of "souring" it.

Well - that's my two cents four cents!!

Have a happy day -
Lynn

John Juarez
The Medford Real Estate Team - Fremont, CA
ePRO, SRES, GRI, PMN

Great post, Lynne. Thanks for the credit, too.

Nov 27, 2011 04:12 PM
Marge Piwowarski
Phoenix AZ Horse Property - Phoenix, AZ
Phoenix AZ Horse Property, LLC

Lynn,

Great post, suggested.  As I responded to the original, we have never charged a tenant for anything and our lease doesn't mention it.  However, we are blessed with awesome tenants and are happy to make needed repairs, as fast as possible.

Nov 27, 2011 05:21 PM
Ginny Gorman
RI Real Estate Services ~ 401-529-7849~ RI Waterfront Real Estate - North Kingstown, RI
Homes for Sale in Southern RI and beyond

Lynn, i came over from Lenn's re-blog and you did a great post that made me think a bit more about some of the rentals i do (which is not many)...great points girl!

Nov 27, 2011 11:21 PM
Cindy Jones
Integrity Real Estate Group - Woodbridge, VA
Pentagon, Fort Belvoir & Quantico Real Estate News

Lynn-thank you for your reply.  I do think the lease needs to spell out clearly the responsibility for repairs or a repair deductible  If the lease is silent on the issue then the problems are sure to start.  I'm not a property manager but do a reasonable number of rental listings each year and see a wide range of who is responsible for what outlined on leases.  In this case it didn't seem reasonable to ask the tenant to pay anything towards the repair since an HVAC compressor didn't break due to their carelessness.

Nov 28, 2011 12:30 AM
Laurie Clark CRB Angel Realty LLC Your Monument Realtor 719-502-6572
CRB-CCSS-ASD-HBS-RSD-Denver Short Sale Agents - Monument, CO
Angel Realty, LLC

Great assessment on how to be an excellent Landlord while making sure the tenant has some skin in the game. Excellent landlords need to be good managers and sometimes that requires determining if a tenant is worth keeping. Thanks for sharing,

Nov 28, 2011 01:58 PM
Lynn B. Friedman CRS Atlanta, GA 404-617-6375
Atlanta Homes ODAT Realty - Love our Great City - Love our Clients! Buckhead - Midtown - Westside - Atlanta, GA
Concierge Service for Our Atlanta Sellers & Buyers

Thanks for commenting!
I love reading what people think when I write!

John - Thanks for the idea!
Marge - Good treatment attracts good tenants!
Ginny - I appreciate your response.
Cindy - This week I almost felt we were playing tennis or ping-pong!
Laurie - Like that phrase "skin in the game" - you understand my thinking.
Have a happy day -
Lynn

Nov 29, 2011 03:11 PM
Dorie Dillard Austin TX
Coldwell Banker Realty ~ 512.750.6899 - Austin, TX
NW Austin ~ Canyon Creek and Spicewood/Balcones

Good morning Lynn,

I came over from Larry & Shelia's post this morning on you taking the time to offer a suggestion to them. This was a great post and I missed it..glad I stopped by!

Nov 29, 2011 11:48 PM
Lawrence "Larry" & Sheila Agranoff. Cell: 631-805-4400
The Top Team @ Charles Rutenberg Realty 255 Executive Dr, Plainview NY 11803 - Plainview, NY
Long Island Condo and Home Specialists

Hi Lynn, We had a tenant that said they had no electric and we sent an electrician over to check the problem...turns out the light switch on the wall was in the OFF position ~ $70.00 loss for us! BTW check out our site today, we have a surprise for you!

Nov 30, 2011 01:47 AM
Debb Janes
Nature As Neighbors - Camas, WA
Put My Love of Nature At Work for You

Hi Lynn,

 We have a tenant in our rental who has asked for a few things since she moved in recently. We pay for the service calls and take care of matters promptly. In our opinion, it shows respect for our rental (which is a lovely condo in Portland), and respect for our tenant. We generally have long term tenants who pay well and treat the home nicely. It's worth a few $100 dollars repair bills here, and there. 

Nov 30, 2011 01:55 AM
Larry Atkins
State Wide Realty Co. - Farmville, VA
Veteran Owned & Operated

Lynn, 

I am a landlord and while I don't have that policy, if I did I would have definitely waived it in this instance as well as the other examples you gave. Very well written response, you hit the nail on the head, we are a business and want to keep good tenants.

Dec 02, 2011 02:19 AM