Gorgonzola cheese, tasty and moldyWater and mold, two things that most every home buyer or homeowner for that matter, fear. While a healthy respect for both substances is more sensible and realistic. The fact is there has and continues to be much misinformation around fanning the flames of mold dread. Truth is mold is every where. Some of it even tastes good.

One thing about fear I have found, it makes my phone ring. It also makes other phones ring too, but that is what the fear mongers desire. I how ever have a different agenda. Recently I was contacted by a property manager (email, not by phone) with whom I have working relationship. The problem, moisture and mold in a condo unit in a building her company manages. The construction is new, the building is not. A mill that has been converted to one level condos. The manager gave me the homeowner’s info so that I could contact him directly to set up an appointment.

Moisture related damage and mold on a concrete wallOn the day of the inspection the homeowner took me directly to the area where the issue was happening. He related the problem was occurring fairly regularly and was concerned about the mold growth.

First thing I noted was some of the “mold” was actually efflorescence. Salts that are driven to the surface of concrete by moisture. I did see a couple of very small patches (4 -5 inches) of black moldy looking stuff on the wall. The brown stuff in the photo is water stains. So all in all not much mold, but definitely there is moisture.

Heading to the exterior I saw the landscapers were using the usual wood mulch along the building. I despise wood mulch. It rots and retains moisture. It also builds the grade up over time because the old mulch is rarely removed before the new is laid down. The grade along the wall here has, in just a few short years, increased by several inches. Look at the A/C condenser to the left, you can see it sits lower than the mulch.

Mulch built up along exterior wallSo what is causing the moisture on the inside of the unit? By my assessment several factors creating a “perfect storm”. The biggest problem is the wall is bare concrete that is directly through to the exterior. Yep, not a bit of insulation over it. There has to be condensation from time to time. Also as I said the mulch is high and over part of the wall. To exacerbate things further this wall is on the north side of the building. There is a swamp at the end of the parking lot opposite the wall. Lots of moisture all around.

As for the dreaded black mold, it can’t possibly grow on latex paint. What has grown has probably been feeding on organic detritus plating out on the cold concrete surface.

Looks to me like the concrete has done what is to be expected, transported moisture and cold into the building. I guess the builders had hoped the paint was going to insulate the concrete wall.

 

James Quarello
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DEC
01
2011
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Yuck!  There are few things that will make me run from a house more than black mold.  Good to see another reason why it might show up.  Good job, James.

7:03pm • #22
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You never answered the question - how many layers of insulating paint do I need to use to get a good R-value?

Oh, I went to suggest the post, but getting home this evening I was too late.  Snooze and lose.

Great post.  Miss Information is a very popular girl.

7:17pm • #23
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James, I recently had a deal cancelled due to extensive mold in the sub area. The remediation would have cost thousands of dollars so I am glad that my clients backed out since this was a short sale and the sellers did not want to put out more money to correct the problem.
7:47pm • #24
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Great post, and very educational! Thanks for sharing with the rest of us!

8:05pm • #25
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Thanks for the tip on the use of wood mulch, and crushed stone being a better choice.  What to do about the salt driven to the surface on concerte (and possibly cinder blocks?)?

10:03pm • #27
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Congrats on the feature! Thank you for the tip about wood mulch; while it doesn't stay on the ground long in Colorado, my daughters home in Virgina has it re-laid every spring. I will be sure to pass this along. Thanks for sharing.

11:34pm • #28
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02
2011
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I had never thought about the fact that mulch could be the perfect harbor for moisture and could be condusive to mold! Yet people everywhere just lay it on top year and year again! I have river rock in my landscaping which I cuss about because it always seems to have weeds growing in it! But at least it won't cause mold!

12:47am • #29
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Jim, Good post.

I think the answer to Jays question is three, sounds like a good number.

Concrete and moisture is always a good mix.

2:25am • #30
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I am always learning good stuff on AR. Thanks for the explanation.

8:54am • #31
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James, Very informative post. My takeaway is, I never gave much thought to wood mulch retaining water, especially up against a house. Good stuff!

11:36am • #32
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This is why they always suggest you keep a buffer zone between the foundation and any vegetation and such so that you can avoid moisture.

3:19pm • #33
DEC
03
2011
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That insulating paint usually seems to work for those shirtless guys at the football game, painted to keep warm.  :)

12:39am • #34
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Ben, That would be another blog entirely. I myself can only speak for my area of the country. 

Charlie, Yep!

Mike, Mold here is not even an issue, but was thought to be initially. 

Jay, I believe it's three, yes three. And yes she is very, very popular!

Ann, That is the problem with mold remediation, the cost. I personally think it is most often waaaaay over done and over priced. 

Donald, You're welcome. Glad to share.

8:14am • #35
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Tatyana, You're welcome. I see you are from Connecticut.

Renee, Efflorescence is usually not a problem and is basically due to moisture.

Angel, Either place it should be removed before the new is put down.

Rosalie, Mulch doesn't cause mold, it retains moisture, which could then result in mold growth. 

Don, Yes I think you're right three :)

Cheryl, As I believe we all do.

Michael, Glad I was able to let you see something new.

Victor, Yes that is one reason why.

Jeremy, Um...I think it's something besides the paint keeping those guys warm ;)

8:23am • #36
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I have had great results using <a href="http://insuladd.com">Insuladd insulating paint</a> as a form of insulation.  They offer a few different types of products on their website.

Matt
8:20pm • #37
OCT
04

Great info. Thanks for sharing them.

9:59am • #38
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05
OCT
25

Its really a nice information regarding the insulating paints. Thanks for the share.

Charles
2:57am • #40
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Hi Charles, The title in tongue in cheek. The point is that insulartion had not been installed which was the likely cause of the problem. 

4:34am • #41

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