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Social Networking NOT for School Teachers

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apple Or Ohio school teachers anyway...

At a time when many in the real estate industry are embracing social networking Ohio teachers are being told "Just say no" to:

MySpace

Facebook

In The Columbus Dispatch, Jill Riepenhoff and Jennifer Smith Richards wrote Teachers’ saucy Web profiles risk jobs

which says: "the Ohio Education Association, which has "strongly" encouraged teachers against using MySpace, Facebook and other online social-networking sites."

The differences? We are not interacting with children in our jobs AND our Web profiles are not saucy. Are they?

I am old enough and grumpy enough that each time I get a friend request I cringe at the "How do you know ________? " I hate how immature it sounds. I always just skip that step.

How do you know Missy Caulk?

Lived together
Worked together
From an organization or team
From a summer / study abroad program
Went to school together
Through Facebook
We hooked up
We dated
I don't even know this person.

Sorry to use you Missy. If you say "Worked together" Facebook wants to know where, when... of course it is all optional but I don't want to provide that information about someone else... yes I'm just talking about myself but I am providing valuable information to advertisers about Missy if I answer that I know her from an organization, or from working together.

LinkedIn does it too. It's more grown up, more polished, more professional.

John Novak has a Quick social networking survey

Or take a poll. Choose all that apply and add others. Is Craigslist Social Networking? Someone mentioned it in John's survey. Is Digg social networking? I did not put either on the poll.



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Scott Daniels Florida Real Estate 2.0. Agents Earn 100% Commission.
Florida List For Less Realty, Inc. Broker/Owner. - Cooper City, FL
MM, No more freedom of speech in Ohio!
Nov 12, 2007 11:01 PM
No Longer Active
Real Estate - Fallon, MT
My wife's on the Board of Ed and after a meeting the other night she said a teacher in our town may be in trouble due to facebook.   Don't know who or why but there always seem to be enemies watching and they'll use any ammo you provide them.
Nov 12, 2007 11:02 PM
Charlie Ragonesi
AllMountainRealty.com - Big Canoe, GA
Homes - Big Canoe, Jasper, North Georgia Pros
I like this blog and even though I voted as a member of ning I am going to drop it
Nov 12, 2007 11:05 PM
Chris Griffith
Downing-Frye Realty, Bonita Springs, FL - Bonita Springs, FL
Bonita Springs Listing Specialist - Agent

I belong to Facebook and MySpace because I had kids in High School. I had investigated and been a member about a year before they asked.  When they asked to join they were floored I was a member. (the rules were they had to "friend" me and so did their friends have to "friend" me or no membership.

I hate that face book thing too. I alway click "lived with" just because it ticks me off.  

 

Nov 12, 2007 11:05 PM
Scott Daniels Florida Real Estate 2.0. Agents Earn 100% Commission.
Florida List For Less Realty, Inc. Broker/Owner. - Cooper City, FL

chris,

not a fan of facebook either.

Nov 12, 2007 11:07 PM
Chris Griffith
Downing-Frye Realty, Bonita Springs, FL - Bonita Springs, FL
Bonita Springs Listing Specialist - Agent
I made my myspace as obnoxious as I could so nobody would spend time on it. I ususally have rotten music play, etc.  I still have the kids friends check in on me once in a while.  (the spinster) LOL
Nov 12, 2007 11:09 PM
Teri Eckholm
Boardman Realty - White Bear Lake, MN
REALTOR Serving Mpls/St Paul North & East Metro

Maureen--We have a good friend who is an administrator/Vice Principal at a local middle school. She had heard from several students that there were a few questionable groups out there...One I think was B--ch&W...s of____Junior High. She had to get approval to join so that she could infiltrate the group to make certain their was no bullying going on as this was causing trouble during the day in class. It is a interesting new world out there. 

I like Chris's idea for her teens. Mine were banned from some of them...They have youtube accounts and we have to watch those sites as well.

 

Nov 12, 2007 11:17 PM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland
Confessions of a hard core real estate blogger. 

Seems to me that many real estate practitioners join the "social networds" for the linking synergy. 

I can't see how that benefits a public school teacher in their jobs.  But, public school teachers have a right to a life too.

It'a free country and as long as the teacher's interest in the social network doesn't lead to unacceptable involvement with minors, and unless the involvement isn't restricted by their employment contract, I don't see how it's anyone's business.

I'm have no interest in social networks.  I participage in ActiveRain
Nov 12, 2007 11:21 PM
Scott Daniels Florida Real Estate 2.0. Agents Earn 100% Commission.
Florida List For Less Realty, Inc. Broker/Owner. - Cooper City, FL

Lenn,

School teachers have a right as well as anyone.

Nov 12, 2007 11:25 PM
Maureen McCabe
HER Realtors - Columbus, OH
Columbus Ohio Real Estate

Thanks all for the comments.  

I don't think it is anyone denying teachers freedom of speech.  This is their union encouraging them to make good decisions about where they hang out on the Internet.  At least I believe the Ohio Education Association is their union.

I am not sure if a school board, superintendent, principal said "don't join Facebook or MySpace.com" it would be the same thing as their union encouraging them not to post a profile or participate on a social network.   That might be denying teachers free speech.  I think their  union is encouraging them to protect them from their school boards, superintendents, principals as well as other teachers AND students.  

And the newspapers.  Some local teachers profiles made a great newspaper article.  The the Ohio Education Association's letter encouraging Ohio school teachers not to participate on ActiveRain and MySpace came out just after an article in the Dispatch, but they said it was already in the works.

Charlie:   Can you quit Ning.com or are you just going to abandon it? Did you start a social network? 

Can you quit a social network?   I vowed to read everything and think about an exit strategy before joining a social network or two... but I never do...  I don't know that you can quit most.  You can stop participating, some you may be able to do a lot of deleting to obliterate a profile...  but with a lot of social networks it's the members and traffic that they want so they can sell it to or partner up with Google or Microsoft (Facebook) or someone... or do the advertiser thing that Facebook is doing now. 

Aren't some social networks like the Mafia?  You can't quit. 

Lenn they were on Facebook and MySpace before us and it was for more social endeavors than what the real estate professional is using it for IMHO. It was for college kids first?  Then high school?  Or vice versa?  That's why it asks such silly, immature questions about how you met someone. Some of the teachers of today joined MySpace.com, Facebook when they were in school. It has nothing to do with business for many. MySpace too.  The fact that Facebook decided to add us oldsters at some point.... was long after Facebook and MySpace were established social networks.  And a much more social kind of social than most of us are ever going to be interested in.   

Nov 12, 2007 11:54 PM
Al Maxwell
Keller Williams - Marietta, GA
Real Estate Agent
Here's my vote...very interesting..
Nov 13, 2007 12:04 AM
Leigh Brown
Leigh Brown & Associates, RE/MAX Executive - Charlotte, NC
CEO, Dream Maker - Charlotte, NC

I can't seem to find enough time to really manuever these social sites-they are pretty intricate, especially facebook. 

I like the ideas of teachers being able to do whatever the heck they want.  As a kid, I really connected with many teachers on a personal level, and those are the teachers who gave me life lessons I lean on today.  I worry about our youth, not being as strong with interpersonal connections because they are so dependent on hiding behind technology.  And if they might better connect with teachers as people, perhaps alll will benefit.

Nov 13, 2007 12:29 AM
Drew Laughlin
Realty Ohio - Columbus, OH

I think teachers should be allowed to use the social sites. I know a lot of people lose touch with old school friends and class mates and the only way to stay in touch is facebook or myspace. I just think they need to heavily censor it. Make sure your friends aren't posting pictures of you at the bar last Friday night with the whole googly eye thing going on. But in respect to their jobs I guess no pictures are better than bad ones.  

Nov 13, 2007 02:10 AM
Maureen McCabe
HER Realtors - Columbus, OH
Columbus Ohio Real Estate
Leigh if kids are interacting with the teachers via MySpace and Facebook it is not the same good old fashioned wholesome interaction though.. is it? Not the Columbus Dispatch article in my entry but an earlier series called The ABCs of Betrayal is about teacher misbehavior. The kind of stuff that ends up a punchline on Letterman or Leno's shows.. and is not really funny at all... According to the newspaper article the memo with the recommendation to not participate in these sorts of sites says: "While this advice might seem extreme, the dangers of participating in these two sites outweigh the benefits." the union memo said. "Because of the high standarda placed on school employees and the risk of job and career loss, the OEA recommends even the appearance of inappropriateness." The Dispatch article in this post does give three examples of profiles that "appear legit" for three Ohio teachers. Someone with the Ohio Department of Education (the director of the Office of Professional Conduct) says the three if the three profiles are teachers, their online info can be considered "conduct unbecoming." He makes a point in the article that they have a right to have it up... but that it needs to be appropriate for their students to see.... and the union is afraid of ..."what ifs" interpretation of improper relationships, imposters posting as teachers, children posing as adults in on-line conversations with teachers.
Nov 13, 2007 02:12 AM
Maureen McCabe
HER Realtors - Columbus, OH
Columbus Ohio Real Estate
I think they are allowed to use social sites Drew, the Dispatch story is their union is recommending they don't. 
Nov 13, 2007 06:18 AM
Karen Hurst
RICOASTALLIVING.COM - Warwick, RI
Rhode Island Waterfront!
Interesting post, Maureen. I try to keep my networking as simple as possible. My children and their children belong to myspace. Not sure if they would like their teachers there, yet my opinion is it's a free space and they also have the blocking option.Unions do have some powers about limiting freedoms of their union members. There will be many more different "networking" sites as time goes on and more problems with each one which will need to be addressed uniquely. I am glad my children are older, though. Seems to me it's quite a job monitoring the Internet these days.
Nov 13, 2007 06:57 AM
Maureen McCabe
HER Realtors - Columbus, OH
Columbus Ohio Real Estate

It doesn't look like the teachers union is doing anything more than sending out a memo discouraging social networking, but it is not only Facebook or MySpace, although they are named.  The quote says "and other online social-networking sites."

Thanks for the comment Karen.

Nov 13, 2007 07:51 AM
Maureen McCabe
HER Realtors - Columbus, OH
Columbus Ohio Real Estate

Someone Twitted this recently... very scholarly but it has a timeline for social networking that jogged my memory about a couple of others that I have joined but am not active in. 

UC Berkly and Michigan State - Social Networks  and about some SNs that have been launched, died, relaunched.

Nov 14, 2007 02:19 AM
Carole Cohen
Howard Hanna Cleveland City Office - Cleveland, OH
Realtor, ePRO

Maureen Im joining Twitter today but couldn't check it off yet lol   And I am SO glad I am not teaching anymore although I do miss the actual teaching part and the cool teens, there are so many issues and restrictions and I feel bad for teachers now. I mean, MySpace and other social networks would be SO COOL to use as a teacher. I mean, the teaching could continue on after school hrs. But what do i know lol

Nov 14, 2007 06:19 AM
Maureen McCabe
HER Realtors - Columbus, OH
Columbus Ohio Real Estate

I miss Carole Cohen... and I missed her comment too.  Someone reading this made me look.

May 10, 2010 05:42 AM