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So how screwed are you today?

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with Tutas Towne Realty, Inc and Garden Views Realty, LLC BK607690

Hello one and all. This is not a meme post. Just thought I would throw that in here. Anyway, I wrote a post on Friday about NOT using your house as an ATM machine, since then I have had a couple more very interesting calls on how NOT to treat Real Estate. First, I want to mention, in case any consumers are reading today, BUYING A HOUSE IS SERIOUS BUSINESS! OK, I feel better now. I had to say that because my mind has just been boggled over the last couple of days with the foolishness that people exhibit when it comes to probably the single largest investment of their lives. Did you catch the key word? INVESTMENT. That means it takes time to accumulate equity, it will not miraculously happen in a few month's time. OK let's move on to the meat of my post.

I received a call early Saturday morning from Damien. He acted like I should know him, but since I was preoccupied, sitting in bed watching VH1 top 20, his name didn't register. Plus he had a strong accent and I'm a little hard of hearing. Finally, I was able to ascertain that he wanted to meet me in a couple of hours to place his home on the market. I asked him for the address so I could do a little research and told him I would call him back shortly to make an appointment with him. Reluctantly, I dragged myself away from VH1 and went down to my office to research Damien's property. I pulled up his address and the memories came pouring in.

Damien had actually purchased one of my listings five months ago! It was one of those memorable transactions that was actually a subject for one on my earlier post on ActiveRain. I remember sitting at the closing table thinking to myself that this was a foreclosure waiting to happen. There was no way these folks could afford this house. I also remembered me contributing $1,800 of my commission at the closing table to get this deal closed. It was a nightmare closing. His Realtor and Lender were cussing at each other and cussing at Damien and his family. It was real ugly. But I had to get it closed because my Sellers had already moved out and were waiting to close on another house. So I chipped in and we closed. BTW his Realtor and the Lender did nothing to get the deal closed. It all came out of my pocket.

I also remember, about a week after closing, Damien calling me to say they were moving in on Saturday but were not able to get the water connected because they were still in south Florida. Our water company requires you to be there in person to give them a $100 deposit. Well, always willing to help, I told Damien I would call and have the water connected in my name so it would be on for the weekend. They could switch it over on Monday. Three weeks later I had it disconnected and sent Damien a bill for $75.00, which he never paid. Anyway, to make a long story longer, I called Damien back on Saturday and explained to him that there was no way he could sell his house. I tried to get him to understand that he just bought it five months ago with 100% financing and the seller paid the closing costs. It would take him several years worth of appreciation to be in a position to sell his house and recoup his costs. He is upside down by about $30,000! I said to him, "I'm sorry but I can not help you, you need to talk to an Attorney. Oh, by the way, can you send me my $75.00?" CLICK Damien is gone. I guess Damien's next move will be a foreclosure. Another example of how not to treat Real Estate.

I just spoke with a lady this morning. I'll make this one quick, since I think you already get my point. Anyway, a real nice lady who bought a new construction house and closed in June of 2006. She is now behind on payments and needs to sell. The house she paid $220,000 for is now worth $205,000. And of course, she bought it with no money down, so still owes $220,000. The kicker is that she does not live in the house. She foolishly let a relative, of her sister in law, use her credit to buy this house. They promised her they would make the payments and refinance it in a few years. They've made three payments. It seems they can't make anymore. They don't really like Poinciana and the grown children that live in the house are unemployed, so they are moving out! "Sorry, we tried, see ya!!! Oh, did we tell you we are liars and we don't care if we screw up your credit?" No further comments, from me, are needed on this one.

I hear these same stories several times a week. What is wrong with these people? Has everyone taken stupid pills? Maybe I will change the way I answer my phone. Do you like this? "Hello, Tutas Towne Realty, Inc, so how screwed are you today?" Cut right to the chase.

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Comments(34)

Carole Cohen
Howard Hanna Cleveland City Office - Cleveland, OH
Realtor, ePRO

Bryant, hello.  I am with Mikey here. If consequences are what it takes to wise up lenders, then so be it.

Christine and I share the same client lolol.  Actually two this year; uh, yes they WILL kick you out of your home.

Dec 18, 2006 10:10 AM
Monika McGillicuddy
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices Verani Realty - Hampstead, NH
Southern NH & the Seacoast Area
BB...sometimes there is just no helping people, you just gotta let them fall. I looked at your graphic and I thought it would be a meme type blog...
Dec 18, 2006 11:48 AM
joanne Douglas
Terrie O'Connor Realtors - Ridgewood, NJ
BB:  It's frightening that you hear this over and over... not everyone should own a home, some people are just too darn smart for their own good!  Maybe it's something in the water...stupid pills are just too hard to swallow.  
Dec 18, 2006 12:13 PM
Ken Cook
Content, coding, marketing, host. - Marietta, GA
Content Marketer/Creator
Awesome! What a great post. How many times have deals like these made it to MY desk! I don't think I know Damien but man do I know some Damiens! 
Dec 18, 2006 02:05 PM
Tim Maitski
Atlanta Communities Real Estate Brokerage - Atlanta, GA
Truth, Excellence and a Good Deal

Bryant,

The way people are today, I wouldn't be surprised if he turned around and sued you for helping him become a victim of home ownership.  After all, without the help of your $1500 he wouldn't be in this situation.  You might be considered a predatory Realtor.  Helping a person buy a home who you know is too stupid to be an owner. 

Dec 18, 2006 02:08 PM
Ryan Windsor
RE/MAX Crest Realty (Westside) - Vancouver, BC

I would like to hear more of these stories, I have to admit. Good for you though for chipping in and helping your seller make the move. I'm willing to bet that they would be very appreciative for your gesture...

Ryan

Dec 18, 2006 02:24 PM
Rich Kruse
Gryphon USA, Ltd. - Columbus, OH
Well, B.  At my office the answer to your question is somewhere between "very" and "totally" most times.
Dec 18, 2006 02:33 PM
George Souto
George Souto NMLS #65149 FHA, CHFA, VA Mortgages - Middletown, CT
Your Connecticut Mortgage Expert

Bryant, I am starting to get some of those calls also.  the last one was from a homeowner who bought a house less than a year ago, put 5% down, and then took out a home equity lone a couple of months later.  Now he wanted to refinance. I have to tell him NO. First I do not do 100% refinancing, and second if he included the closing costs like he wanted to he would be over the value of the house.  Yep you got, he must have been taking the same pills.

Dec 18, 2006 02:48 PM
Brett Mumaw
RE/MAX First - New Albany, IN
Your Indiana Move
It seems sometimes to me that everyone I talk to has lived in their home for two years or less.
Dec 18, 2006 03:27 PM
Jeff Turner
RealSatisfied - Santa Clarita, CA
Bryant, the stories come at such a fast pace! How many real estate transactions do you handle in a year? Just curious!
Dec 18, 2006 03:28 PM
ASHEVILLE REALTY REFERRAL RESOURCE 828-776-0779
REAL ESTATE REFERRAL NETWORK - Asheville, NC
CONTACT janeAnne365@gmail.com
I can tell you are not only kind-hearted and generous, but smart. Maybe some of that will rub off on people who call you ...but if it doesn't that's OK by me because it is the fodder for great stories I really enjoy reading. THX!
Dec 18, 2006 04:13 PM
Nima Rezvan CT Lender CT Senior Mortgage Broker
Nima Rezvan Prosper First Funding Corporation NMLS#110681 - Fairfield, CT
First Time Home Buyer Expert - CT FHA Loans - FHA

Jeff Turner has a great question, you don't have to answer it I geuss if you don't feel comfortable but I would like to know as well.

Also, where is your MEME BLOG? 

Hope you enjoyed reading mine.. did you tell all of your active rain friends about my MEME BLOG?

Dec 18, 2006 04:26 PM
Jeff Dowler, CRS
eXp Realty of California, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
The Southern California Relocation Dude
A good story, Bryant. It never ceases to amaze me how people can get themselves into such financial pickles. It's one thing to lose a job or have some other catastrophe, but to do things that seem to intentionally lead to ruin,or clearly without any thought, is hard to understand. Obiously a good situation to avoid at all costs.
Dec 18, 2006 05:37 PM
Ron Withers ----Retired Mortgage Professional
Kissimmee, FL

BB & TLW,

Evidently the market is saturated with these "Stupid Pills."  Maybe you could come up with a prescription to counter the affects of these nasty things.  How about BB's "Daily Dose of Reality" pills? Would have to work on recommended daily doseage based on the severity of the affliction.

Dec 18, 2006 10:43 PM
"The Lovely Wife" The One And Only TLW.
President-Tutas Towne Realty, Inc. - Kissimmee, FL

'Tim'...Oh! God! Don't give them any bright ideas. I have a the funny feeling a Judge would throw that one right out of court. LOL. We work for the Seller's not the Buyer's. I don't think a Judge would find us guilty for doing what is best for our Seller which is to get the deal closed even if that includes using our paycheck to make it happen. ;)

'Ron'...A little Reality goes a long way. :)

TLW...ROAR!

Dec 18, 2006 10:54 PM
Bryant Tutas
Tutas Towne Realty, Inc and Garden Views Realty, LLC - Winter Garden, FL
Selling Florida one home at a time

Lots of great comments thanks everyone.

Nima, I read and commented on your meme post. I thought it was very good. I posted mine in the comments of Jay's post. My life is not interesting enough for an entire blog post.

Jeff, I stay pretty busy. The market I work in Poinciana, Fl is mostly affordable housing and the majority of the folks are first time home buyers and people relocating from NY and Puerto Rico. Poinciana is 50% Hispanic and 50% of it's 65,000 people are under 18 years of age. Most of the homes were purchased with 100% financing. And most of the people are fairly young. All of these factors come into play with the ever changing job market to create a lot of housing issues for a lot of folks. I hear these stories everyday.  

I have appointments this morning so don't have time to respond to everybody but I really do appreciate you taking the time to read and comment.  

Dec 18, 2006 11:17 PM
Brett Mumaw
RE/MAX First - New Albany, IN
Your Indiana Move
Hey Bryant, I read one of your responses on another blog and it made me think of this one.  One of the really sad parts of this story is that someone will probably list those houses anyway.
Dec 19, 2006 01:19 AM
Virginia Halter
RE/MAX Signature Properties - Harrisburg, NC
ABR, CDPE, CRS, GREEN, SFR, SRES

There really are some folks who should not own a home right now.  I often wonder where the banks are making the money from these 100% financing, no doc loans.  It doesn't matter how high the interest rate is.  If they can't pay it they can't pay it.

I had a suspect recently who wanted to list and move up.  Great neighborhood for the listing, great neighborhoods for moving on up.  Got the listing paperwork filled out.  Got the lender on the phone...they haven't paid their mortgage in 4 months.  It was being foreclosed at the end of the month!  My suspects, "Didn't know it could affect their credit that quickly or that much."  My lender tried to find out extenuating circumstances  to see if there was anything he could do.  "Nope," they said, "We just haven't gotten around to paying it."  It was all so casual for them.  No business, just casual.  that was my first encounter with people like that.  Blew my mind!

 Investment = long term business commitment

Dec 19, 2006 01:30 AM
Melissa Kruse
Gryphon - Lewis Center, OH
It never ceases to amaze me how stupid people can be. I thought I had seen everything whe Rich was doing dot-com liquidations in the 90's. Inexperienced people with to much money and no plans. Now it seems like all those people became crazy home buyers. I can't tell you how many times we've heard "But I didn't think...."
Dec 19, 2006 02:28 AM
Jeff Turner
RealSatisfied - Santa Clarita, CA
Bryant... thanks for the info! You seriously rock!
Dec 19, 2006 03:12 AM