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56 Comments on Quick I need a better score....what to do in a pinch
this is nice and if you dont mind I will print and share with buyers walking the line...I will even print your info- hope it can bring you business!
No.
But depending on how you structured your loan you could get a refi on just the HELOC - but that depends on which state your in. Some states do not allow "stand alone seconds" or some lenders may not allow it.
Talk to a broker from your state. In Florida, you can refi it without it effecting the first, but your 1st may have to be notified.
But now that I think about it, that may be a recent development. Maybe some mortgages that were done in the 80's don't have that "notification" clause.
In some mortgages (I'm talking subprime and/or hard money) they just want to be notified of a second or HELOC.
Christopher,
Yes, actually certain HELOC's are looked at as Revolving lines of credit. I've encountered several Wells Fargo Equity lines that show on credit reports as revolving lines, and they do affect the scores.
Karl,
Just so I'm clear... a HELOC from a particular Wells Fargo product appears as an 'R' under credit type?
Really. Huh. Because in order for that to happen they would have to be paying each month (same as all other credit debts) but when you pulled up 'credit cards' this product would appear as a 0-30/0-60/0-90.
But does that also mean that they would get hit as 'above 50%' the day after the took out the HELOC?
I'm sure your correct about this, but I've never seen it. I haven't been doing this forever, but it seems kinda scary that this scenario would pull up this way on a credit report.
You probably didn't (because there would be no reason to) but did you by any chance pull their credit from a different agency to see if it showed up there?
Either way, I'll be on the lookout for this in the future - weird.
Enjoy,
Christopher,
I would be willing to show you her credit report to prove it....(LOL), but don't want to go to jail. But yes, it is crazy. I know that not all HELOC's show as revolving lines, and maybe I'm confusing the fact that she has a first lien HELOC with a 2nd lien HELOC. I'll double check tomorrow morning, but I found it odd as well. As soon as we refinanced her HELOC her scores went up, due to her other revolving accounts being paid off but still active.
Karl
I think that's because you're in Texas, Donna.
I don't know Texas RE laws (but I will proudly admit that I lived there for the better of 20 years and loved it) but I suspect it has something to do with your "granny laws". The ones on the books to keep "granny" from losing her home to either borrowing to much to some strange deed restrictions.
I'll look this up and post it this afternoon, unless someone beats me to it. :)
Enjoy,
have you ever used a Rapid Rescore? Its a little pricey , I did that for a client this month his loan just funded today.
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I've been "perfecting" my credit repair technique for a while now and just discovered something that was really surprising. Everyone may already know this, but...
I have been working on a refi for a client that has 2 state tax liens that, although paid, are showing as still owed. One is only being reported by TransUnion and the other is only being reported by Equifax (dockets were reported wrong, liens are released by other bureaus). My client is desperate to do the refi so he can open a new retail store, so we discussed Rapid Recheck (from First American CREDCO). He was all over it. I told him it doesn't always work, etc., but he was willing to spend the money to get the public records corrected. I was shocked when we got the results back...the public records have been corrected but his scored did not move at all!
Any idea why?
These days, collection companies have gotten very sophisticated with their technology and in their solicitations of doctors and cell phone companies and they are reporting 'recent activities' monthly. If this is the case, then you might as well pay off the derog because it is not going to get better. They will let you settle and then you can get that black cloud behind you.
Karl,
Good post but I do take the comment about "Credit Repair Companies" to be false. You may have been misinformed or burned by a dishonest company in the past but some companies do exactly what they say they can do. Most (in my estimate about 90%) of the credit repair companies are a fraud. They lie, cheat, and run with your money. It makes it hard for me to do have a reputable business. Is it fair that I categorize you with the lending organizations that do not disclose information or follow the rules? Is it fair that I tell all of my clients to stay away from you because of some dishonest lending officers? Trust me when I say that I get customers on a daily basis that you can not help. These people have had a bad situation in there past. These are the people that you cant help in most cases. Not everyone in my profession is dishonest. There are some good companies who can help your clients.
#4 Do not pay allot of money for credit repair. (Call me if you need any advice, or someone you know in the mortgage business that your trust)
FYI We have had thousands of Loan and Mortgage officers refer multiple clients to us in the past.
We not only specialize in credit repair but also included credit "education". We also have relationship's with Chase, Bank of America, Wells Fargo Finical, WAMU, and several other companies that allow us to help customers set up new lines of credit to help assist them in the future with credit.
How about this:
Check to see if the company is Licensed with the Secretary of State and Bonded with a recognized Surety Company. Check to see if they are registered with the BBB.
We do, on average, about 500 clients per month and have a excellent deletion rate. Please do your homework in the future before you categorize an entire industry as dishonest. Thanks for your time and I hope you have a wonderful day.
Karl
Great Post!!! All seems like common sense... but you have taken the time to commit it to writing... I must confess to being to lazy to do so... thank you... you are a credit to our industry...
Great information I did some testing on the MYFICO estamator and found the best level to have your revolving balances and it is not $0 check it out here http://www.thecreditguy.tv/how-to-pay-bills-in-a-way-to-maximize-your-credit-score/