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Agents Taking Listing Photos - Counter Points To An AR Featured Post

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Agents Taking Listing Photos - Counter Points To An AR Featured Post

There is a featured post called: 

"Don't let your agent photograph your home with their cell phone".  It was a members only post so I can not link to it from this post since my post is public. The short of it is that Eric Hemler gave his opinion about photos taken of listings. He made a comment that created a pretty good debate.  Allen May let me know that I can link to the members only post and if you are logged in you will be able to get to the post. So I added the link just now. 

What sparks most of the comments was that he said that sellers should not allow the listing agent to take listing photos with their phone. 

I was one of the commenters that totally flat out disagreed with that statement. 

Actually it got me to thinking that if I had more time I could create an entire article series and tutorials on making the most of your iPhone 4 and iPad2. But I really don't have that kind of time right now. 

The point is that if you can take good photos of your listings with a shoe box camera than go for it.

It is not so much the camera as it is the vision and talent and skill set of the person taking the photos. Many agents become very good at photography. There are photographers who become agents and visa versa. Just because you are a real estate agent does not mean you have to hire a professional photographer for all your listing photos. Just because you are a real estate agent does not mean you can not also be good at taking great photos. 

If you look at our high end listings- we take those photos.

lone pine delray beach private estate home for sale

 Nestor takes great photos and I also take good photos. We enjoy taking the photos ourselves because we know what buyers are looking for in the house. A photographer might be able to take a great photo but it may be the wrong photo! An agent who is good at marketing- which should be the second skill set after good communication skills- will know how to capture the look and feel that a potential buyer would be attracted to. Buyers find our listings online and they make offers on our listings. They compliment our photos often. 

The other side of this argument is about truth in advertising. How much should that photo be photoshopped before it is considered false advertising? An agent taking photos is going to have a much more realistic approach. But that is a subject for another post. 

Now for the camera points- 

You can have the fanciest and most expensive camera in the world and still take crappy photos. 

You can have a simple point and shoot camera and take a great photo. 

In this day and age saying that a phone is a bad way to take a photo and that a sellers should not hire you because you are going to take photos of their home with your iPhone is just- well- not understanding technology! 

There are entire awesome groups of photographers who have abandoned their expensive camera equipment and gone all out with iPhone apps, a tripod and lighting. There are entire short movies being made just with an iPhone and the apps to make that process awesome. 

We get the iPhone magazine and in the latest edition there were pages and pages devoted to all the cool iPhoto apps that are now available for pro photographers. You can with a few apps, take a photo on your iPhone, add framing, lighten it up, remove shadows, crop the image, add saturation and all the other techie touch ups to a photo like you can in iPhoto- and even upload that photo right to your website, facebook page and posterous, etc. 

Here is a beautiful short video that was entirely filmed and produced on the iPhone of the California Redwoods. It is only about 2 minutes long. But when you see what you can do in the forest with the iPhone you can also do on your listings. 

The iPhone 4s camera is an 8 megapixels camera with state of the art optics that compete with the best in cameras. It also has 1080 hd video. With the new pixels on this phone you can print up to an 8x10 photo- that has never been done before on a phone. The lighting in the iPhone is even better- the "custom lens uses five precision elements to shape incoming light which makes the image sharper". The camera lets more light in which makes sharper images. It also has an infrared filter that keeps the IR light out so your colors look better than in a regular camera. 

It has an A5 chip which makes the processor just as good as those in DSLR cameras. You can also take the photos in HDR. This is just the tiny part of what the iPhone camera can do. I hope to find the time to gather up for you the coolest apps on the planet to help you edit your photos right on your camera. 

Here are a few photos that we took with our iPhones and also some that were taken without any editing at all from the Apple website. ( Apple's TOS says you can use their images to share information about their products). These photos were unretouched! 

baseball ready iphone photo quality

apple iphone photos unretouched

apple unretouched iphone images

mountains apple unretouched iphoto

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Comments(73)

Kathy Burke
Sensational Home Staging~~Danville, CA - Danville, CA
S.F. East Bay Home Staging

Today soooo much is possible with phone camera technology....it's come such a long way.  I've seen MANY "crappy" photos....some by phone some by camera.  I think taking GOOD photos is a must for today's on-line shoppers.  If I were a seller I'd take a look at my agent's website and determine the quality of photo's that they use.

Feb 04, 2012 04:14 AM
Lyn Sims
Schaumburg, IL
Real Estate Broker Retired

This sounds like an Iphone commercial. Everyone I KNOW that thinks they take good pics with their cell phone is dead wrong. In the kitchen photo the lighting is way off.

Feb 04, 2012 06:42 AM
Katerina Gasset
The Gasset Group & Get It Done For Me Virtual Services - Provo, UT
Amplify Your Real Estate & Life Dreams!

Lyn- It was a rebuttal to saying "don't allow your agent to take photos of your home with their camera". You and I can disagree. The fact that the lighting is way off does not matter to the buyer who just found the home online and is making an offer on this home and they said that our photos were amazing:) Not all the photos we took with our iphone either for that photo shoot. Like I said in another comment here we take ALL our cameras with us and take photos with all of our cameras and use the best shots. I lightened up that kitchen shot, removed shadows, increased the saturation... in iPhoto of course. 

Buyers and sellers are NOT making their decision on who to list with based on photography skills or the camera that is going to be used or if the kitchen photo has too much light or not enough light. They list with us #1 because we know how to sell our listings. 

I disagree that everyone who takes photos with their cell phones are wrong in thinking their images are good. Look at the ones from the Apple site, untouched, clearly good photos. 

iPhone commercial? It was countering a post that says that phones take crappy photos and the only reference I have is my iPhone since that is the only phone I use. I can not speak for androids as I have never even touched one. :) Katerina

Feb 04, 2012 07:49 AM
Katerina Gasset
The Gasset Group & Get It Done For Me Virtual Services - Provo, UT
Amplify Your Real Estate & Life Dreams!

If you have not watched the Redwoods short flim, only 2 minutes long all shot with an iphone please watch it. Not for the iphone use but the Redwood trees are so majestically beautiful. 

Feb 04, 2012 07:50 AM
Dave Keys
MOVE UP in Google Search Learn How Here - Brea, CA
Chief Search Strategist Real Estate SEO Expert

Technique is everything. Expensive equipment helps a little but many of the most famous photographs in the world were taken with equipment and processes that we would consider archaic. The artist finds a way with the tools in hand. I took the photo below in 2001 at the Colosseum. I think the camera was 1.2 Mpixel. Recently, I presented a photography tutorial in techniques to a group of agents. I used photos taken with my cellphone to illustrate the importance of technique rather than equipment when taking real estate photography. A summary of that series of photos is somewhere on my blog.

Feb 04, 2012 08:30 AM
Katerina Gasset
The Gasset Group & Get It Done For Me Virtual Services - Provo, UT
Amplify Your Real Estate & Life Dreams!

Dave- what i really love about this photo is that I can see the villages in the hills through the small openings in the Colosseum. That is an amazing photo. Make me miss Italy:) 

Feb 04, 2012 09:04 AM
Dave Keys
MOVE UP in Google Search Learn How Here - Brea, CA
Chief Search Strategist Real Estate SEO Expert

It was fun to find those windows in the ancient structures and framing scenes in them.

'nuther cellphone pic...

Cellphone pic flower

Feb 04, 2012 01:55 PM
Jim Hale
ACTIONAGENTS.NET - Eugene, OR
Eugene Oregon's Best Home Search Website

Lots of issues...in the original post, this post and all the comments. 

Let me just focus on one: low end houses and REO's going to quick, over-list, multiple offers - without a full pix treatment.


First, if things are really moving so fast that listings never make it to the multiple, please tell the world media, because we could all use some good news:  During the recent Florida Republican primary, the national media just put out a barrel of bad press about how terrible the housing market is in Florida.

And then:

Show me a listing that is gone before it hits the MLS and I'll show you a seller who has every reason to wonder if the price was too low.

Show me a listing that gets multiple offers without full pix and I'll show you a seller who might have received even more offers.

Show me a listing that sells above list price without full pix and I'll show you a seller who has a right to ask, could I have gotten more?

Listings get the widest attention on the day they hit the MLS - agents looking, buyers looking and both receiving emails from the MLS system or company/agent websites telling them about a new listing having their desired parameters.

A seller deserves to have a full complement of pix hit the MLS at the same time as the listing.

 

Feb 04, 2012 08:10 PM
Jon Zolsky
FunCoast Realty 386-405-4408 - Ponce Inlet, FL
your Daytona Condo Agent

Katerina - if we are talking phoptographu as art, it is one thing, but if we are talking about photography for real estate, it is totally different ballgame.

While a good photographer can do pretty nice photos with any camera, when you are talking about interior photos showing the rooms, IPhone is no good, no matter how many pixels it can produce. Low light situations are a huge problem for the majority of low na dmid range cameras, and this is what you have when you are dealing with interior pictures.

And this is especially true for high end properties, They deserve a high end camera, and, which is most important, a high end photographer.

As example look at listing photos of Eric Codner, look at listing photos of Iran Watson. this is not oly the skill, it is also the equipment (and Eric Kodner is using Canon 5D Mark II with ahefty price tag), plus expensive software.

We are all amateurs, I understand it. But promoting amateur photo for high end properties may be not a good idea. The photo of a kitchen that you are showing here is off balance. With a Canon 5D Mark II or high-end camera (prosumer cameras), you could mitigate differrent type (and color temperatures) of lights, and level the color, but with I-Pad, I-Phone or any consumer camera there is no way to do it without serious photoshopping.

Feb 05, 2012 05:46 AM
Jon Zolsky
FunCoast Realty 386-405-4408 - Ponce Inlet, FL
your Daytona Condo Agent

katerina - sorry missed this point. Photos that you are showing from Apple website are all taken in plenty of natural light situation.

I doubt that baseball field is from their site. The color is off balance, and lacking details, common problem with i-Phone - I-Pad cameras.

Of course, this is just a personal opinion, nothing more

Feb 05, 2012 05:50 AM
Andi Grant
310-508-4354 | FirstTimeHomeBuyerRealEstate.com - Los Angeles, CA
Helping 1st time buyers and home sellers in LA!

I took both of the below photos (they are both downsized here) with my iPhone 3 (I have iPhone 4 now)and I've received so many compliments from both professional and hobby photographers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I use this one on my website and have people ask me if the home is for sale!

Andi's Cal Heights Photo

I will have to look up how to take good iPhone evening indoor photos though.

Feb 06, 2012 06:13 PM
Katerina Gasset
The Gasset Group & Get It Done For Me Virtual Services - Provo, UT
Amplify Your Real Estate & Life Dreams!

Andi- Great photos! I love them. I love how you left the shadows in them as well. Katerina

Feb 07, 2012 02:18 AM
Sharon Simms
Coastal Properties Group International - Christie's International - Saint Petersburg, FL
St. Petersburg FL - CRS CIPS CLHMS RSPS

Thanks, Katerina, for bringing this up. I'm with you - it's about the photographer. you CAN take excellent photos with the iPhone. An accessory I've found handy is the Glif tripod mount for the iPhone 4, available from amazon, that keeps it steady when needed. You can also use the headphone attchment to click the shutte to avoid shaking. 

Feb 07, 2012 02:26 AM
Katerina Gasset
The Gasset Group & Get It Done For Me Virtual Services - Provo, UT
Amplify Your Real Estate & Life Dreams!

Jim- I disagree. That is simply not true in certain price ranges. South Florida markets are very different from Oregon markets. 

Yes, we do get the word out to the media about how great the South Florida market is. NOT ALL MARKETS in FLORIDA are doing well. You have to understand where we are and where the places in Florida are that are still in a rut. 

Miami for instance is the fastest growing market in the entire United States and has already surpassed the sales of the best year of the boom in 2011. The prices are going up, up  and up if you have a property that is on the ocean or intracoastal or in an area where there is a demand. 

Supply and demand. 

If we have a listing that has offers before it hits the mls it is because we have buyers agents lining up to get an offer in on a certain price range. We also have properties that get sold sight unseen. It is also about price range. No the seller does not need 20 offers when they have 12. The 12 offers they get are indicative of what all offers will be. It is about supply and demand and raising the price above the market value is going to cut all those offers out so that is not in the best interest of our seller who needs to sell now. 

REOs- the shortage of REOs on the market has created a feeding frenzy. When they do come on the market they are selling for less than market value but above listing prices. The REOs are selling 7 times faster than any other product on the market.

I wrote a post about this- Miami- South Florida- The Golden Market. it is a golden market in many pockets and areas. 

It has NOTHING to do with MLS photos and EVERYTHING to do with PRICE and Demand on that PRICE Range. You need to understand that any house in the market value area here of less than $150K is going to be gone overnight. But the appraisal is still going to come in at the price that we put on the house. IT is in line with comps. The appraisals confirm it. 

The listing photo of the kitchen in this post- we have an offer on that property and the seller is SO happy because of the negotiating skills that we delivered that he who is a big real estate developer is going to give us more of their high end custom homes to market and sell for them. They love our photos BTW. Katerina

Feb 07, 2012 02:28 AM
Katerina Gasset
The Gasset Group & Get It Done For Me Virtual Services - Provo, UT
Amplify Your Real Estate & Life Dreams!

Jon- I believe that the eye for photography is not something every person has. Sellers are not in our experience judging photos but rather judging whether we get them an offer on their property. 

That photo of the kitchen is not our best photo. It was not taken with an iPhone. It was taken with our very expensive Nikon camera.:) 

But at the end of the day, it is about selling the house. My skill is in presentation and marketing. Nestor's skill is in communication and negotiating. 

We can agree to disagree on this one. I do not agree that high end listings need high end photographers. Never have, never will. In fact, we work in luxury listings and never once has a seller complained about our photos. In fact, you know what they love the most? They love the realestateshows.com videos we make from the still shots we take. They love those the most of all. They ask us for CDs to give to their friends. They pass them along and email their friends the video. That video is all done on my computer, not fancy, nothing spectacular but the high end sellers love them. The sellers tell us that our photos do look professional. Maybe it is the comparison they have to the other agents - I don't know for sure but I do know that the relationship and ability to sell are more important than photos. 

We sell our high end listings with marketing and the skill set to negotiate the contract once we get an interested buyer and most of the time we double end our high end listings. The kitchen photo here- we found the buyer too. The seller likes the way we handled it all, from the post on AR that got over 1600 views to the click throughs of those that watched the video... to the way we negotiated the terms, ..... now these guys who have been building custom homes since 1924 and still going strong... are going to list more of their custom homes with us... and have Nestor do their negotiating for land aquisition projects.... and so it goes.... that is just the beginning.... 

Feb 07, 2012 02:38 AM
Katerina Gasset
The Gasset Group & Get It Done For Me Virtual Services - Provo, UT
Amplify Your Real Estate & Life Dreams!

Jim- There are buyer agents here who have lists of investors and investor pools just waiting to grab anything that comes on the market. The rents are high here in South Florida. In fact, it is much cheaper to own than to rent but with all those that did short sales and have crappy credit now, they have no choice but to rent... and the rents are high, this is an investor's heaven here. I wrote a post about that too! 

Feb 07, 2012 02:46 AM
Katerina Gasset
The Gasset Group & Get It Done For Me Virtual Services - Provo, UT
Amplify Your Real Estate & Life Dreams!

Jim- it is such a frenzy here that the first time home buyers have a very hard time finding a property. We have buyers agents that work for us that have a list of buyers looking and the investors will beat them to the properties so they call agents that list in those price ranges and ask to be put on their list... before the listing ever hits the mls... the buyers get to know about it so they can get in line with their offers. Even on our short sale listings, we have approved prices from the banks and back up offers, those prices are in line with market prices.

Feb 07, 2012 02:48 AM
Katerina Gasset
The Gasset Group & Get It Done For Me Virtual Services - Provo, UT
Amplify Your Real Estate & Life Dreams!

Jim - here are your comments: 


Show me a listing that is gone before it hits the MLS and I'll show you a seller who has every reason to wonder if the price was too low.

Show me a listing that gets multiple offers without full pix and I'll show you a seller who might have received even more offers.

Show me a listing that sells above list price without full pix and I'll show you a seller who has a right to ask, could I have gotten more?

Listings get the widest attention on the day they hit the MLS - agents looking, buyers looking and both receiving emails from the MLS system or company/agent websites telling them about a new listing having their desired parameters.

A seller deserves to have a full complement of pix hit the MLS at the same time as the listing.

First of all I take offense to the insinuation that we would not do what is best for our sellers. 
 
Second- The sellers who sell their properties before their listing hits the mls are happy sellers. The MLS has nothing to do with it when it comes to agents having a huge buyer pool of investors and first time homebuyers. So that is like saying the seller should not pay you as much if you sell their home faster. The photos have NOTHING to do with the investors on our list of buyers. The investors want numbers not photos. 
 
Third- More offers??? Why the heck to do you need 20 offers when you have 12 to go over? Ordinarily we are going to cut off the number of offers at a certain point in time. Again, when you have 50 first time homebuyers on your buyer list and 100 investors- they are all looking for those 5 properties... you have a feeding frenzy. Nothing to do with photos. All to do with supply and demand. 
 
Listings do not ALL get the widest attention the day they hit the MLS. NOT TRUE!!!! I can prove it!!! HUD homes are so few and in such a high demand that they are gone before they hit the MLS in our area. The only reason they even hit the MLS is because that is a rule that HUD has for the listing agent! Same with HomeSteps. Again, it goes back to buyers pools and investor pools. We get calls all the time from agents who want to be added to our call list to be notified before a property goes on MLS or goes back on market. 
 
 
Feb 07, 2012 03:02 AM
Jon Zolsky
FunCoast Realty 386-405-4408 - Ponce Inlet, FL
your Daytona Condo Agent

Katerina - of course.We are not photograpers first and foremost. No questions here.

I simply notice that the level of competition on high end market is more, and everything there is more sophosticated.

In that sense, of course, you are selling not with photos, but would you attempt to keep printing your stuff in Black & White?

The demand is always for more and better, and we are following it. I can tell you that there were practically no agents using prosumer cameras just 10 years ago, and now there are plenty of them. It is a trend. To stay in this business and to be sucessful, we are forced to spend more money than yesterday whether we like it or not.

As for your expensive Nicon, can it do HDR? It could partially take care of difficult light (incandescent, and natural, with very different color temperatures)

Feb 07, 2012 01:59 PM
Katerina Gasset
The Gasset Group & Get It Done For Me Virtual Services - Provo, UT
Amplify Your Real Estate & Life Dreams!

Jon- At my age and where I am in my career and all that.... staying in this business is not a concern of mine. You know we stay on top of all the new technologies etc but that is because I like to work in those elements. If I did not like to do it, I would not do it. Just the way I have lived my life and now in my last half of life here on earth- what is important, what I learn, what I do with my time... it all is from a very different perspective. Like if I don't embrace gen x as clients it won't hurt me one bit in my market and by the time it matters I will be retired.:) 

I never liked to door knock so I did not even do it 25 year ago, before computers, internet, faxes and email. It never effected my bottom line and never bothered me since I am a believer in doing what you love and the money will follow. There are so many ways to skin the same cat. 

I have seen the evolvement of real estate from Jimmy Carter days when I got my first real estate license to today's environment. The one thing I always said, because I have always owned more than one business, is that if I don't like the way something is going in one biz and I can't do anything to change that, I just do something else.:) There are trends in real estate that I will never ever participate in such as salaried positions and if that were the norm then I would just do something else to earn money. 

To be even more argumentive... :) .... yes, there are times and environments where the black and white printing is still embraced and important:)

The point is we are not FORCED to do anything. We CHOOSE to do things. I am too much of a rebel to be "forced". 

Yes, my Nikon has HDR and so does my iPhone4. I have noticed with the iPhone that when using HDR the photos havae better lighting. 

Feb 08, 2012 04:25 AM