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I have excellent credit, but I'm not sharing my credit report with potential clients. Sorry, I'm just not.

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Real Estate Agent with Jameson Sotheby's International Realty

Recently on Trulia Voices, a Realtor responded to a question about hiring an agent, with some of the following advice.

"Ask for a copy of the Realtors® credit report.  This may sound bold but you would be surprised how many are below 600, and then ask yourself do you really want to accept consul on one of the biggest decisions of your life from someone who can’t manage their own financial future? (note: this is not common practice and may offend many, but you are about to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars, do your homework gather information)"

Ask for a copy of the Realtors® credit report before you hire them!?

I gotta tell you, I think he has us confused with a Financial Consultant.  This is indeed a bold move, to request my credit report.

On the surface, his argument sounds logical... but I have to tell you... My credit score is excellent, but I would not give a potential buyer a copy of my credit report, if asked.  I might share my credit "score" with them (although I'd have to give that some serious consideration), but I'm not giving out a copy of my credit report.  Did you ask for your accountant's credit report?  Or your stock market investor's credit report, or a copy of his portfolio?

While the logic behind his request sounds reasonable.. keep in mind that they're not hiring an agent to help with their financial future.  We are not financial consultants, we do not help manage wealth. They are simply hiring an agent to help you navigate the landmines surrounding the purchase of a home.  You don't have to have an 800 credit score to be able to do that brilliantly.

In fact I know several agents, who've had a really tough few years, whose credit scores might not have survived unscathed, who are truly excellent Realtors and know their stuff.  Their current credit scores have more to do with children in college, and the temperamental real estate market, than with their knowledge and expertise.

So, "ask for a copy of my credit report?"  I don't think so.

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Posted by

 ALAN MAY, Realtor®   
Specializing in Evanston Real Estate and North Shore Real Estate

Jameson Sotheby's International Realty, 2934 Central Street, Evanston, IL 60201
Office: 847.869.7300      Cell: 847.924.3313      Email: Almay@aol.com

Evanston Real Estate & North Shore Real Estate
Licensed in Illinois

   

Comments(114)

David Krichmar
www.DaveYourMortgageGuy.com - Legend Lending - Sugar Land, TX
DaveYourMortgageGuy.com

Alan, i am truly surprised by that response.  First off who would go giving out their personal info.  And i don't see how bad credit would make a Realtor not good at their job.  Like you mention many have had ups and downs.  Not to mention what if they had medical bills they couldn't pay and they appear negative on their credit, that makes them a bad Realtor??????  thanks for posting this info, I agree. 

Feb 06, 2012 06:53 AM
Mark McHugh
Clearmark Real Estate llc - Warwick, RI
Realtor Rhode Island 401-641-3842

790 Alan, will you hire me? Ha ha.

Some of the questions on those platforms are out of this world.

 

TYhanks,

 

Mark

Feb 06, 2012 06:55 AM
Joy Daniels
Joy Daniels Real Estate Group, Ltd. - Harrisburg, PA

Alan~
I think this is crazy.  Many employers do pull credit reports on their potential employees.  But, is it really necessary?  I think it is a privacy issue.

Feb 06, 2012 07:26 AM
Rachell Jackson
Charles Rutenberg Realty - Naperville, IL
Realtor, Naperville, Oswego, Plainfield

Alan, 

 

Thanks for sharing.  I hadn't read the trulia response and would have definitely been caught off guard had a potential client asked me for my credit report. I do not agree with asking an agent for their Credit report as a way to determine their capabilities.  How absurd.  

 

 

 

Feb 06, 2012 08:05 AM
Alan May
Jameson Sotheby's International Realty - Evanston, IL
Home is where the hearth is.

Charlie - a good position, in my opinion.

Coach - good to know.

Barbara - except, of course, here on my blog, where it's quite the conversation.

Barbara - totally irrelevant... I agree.

Jim - I'm not sure why that would have any bearing, either.  My financial position may be different than my clients, and my needs as far as housing may be totally different.  That doesn't mean I can't help you with yours.

Donne - If Coldwell Banker (or any other major chain for the matter) determines that they'll only have agents with 720 or higher... then that's a decision I'll have to make.  But I will not provide a credit report to my clients.  Sorry, not gonna do it, wouldn't be prudent.

Anu - I'm not even interesting in viewing the client's financial.  That's not my concern, as I'm not a loan officer.  All I need to know is that they're preapproved by their lender.  Then let's go find a house.

Kayla - well said.

Curtis - that's voluntary... (at least on my part).

Michael - a three-martini lunch?

Dave - I agree with me, too.

Mark - they are, indeed.

Joy - it's different coming from the employer... although I still don't care for it, I can see it's coming down the pike.

Rachell - darn absurd, if you ask me.

Feb 06, 2012 09:22 AM
Michelle Francis
Tim Francis Realty LLC - Atlanta, GA
Realtor, Buckhead Atlanta Homes for Sale & Lease

Alan, 

Very interesting dialog.  I am good with sharing my credit score, as we are fiscally very conservative and still in good shape.  The one key here is motivation.  I do think it's critical to understand an agent's or another person who will make money off of you reason for buying or selling something.  It's important to understand how the person who is going to make money off of you handles themselves and what motivations might effect their logic in making decisions on your behalf.  

I would be concerned about someone on their last dime.  It may or may not affect how they handle my business!  Again, all of these factos are indicators, not gaurantees.  We try to do the right things for our clients - EVEN WHEN IT MEANS WE DON"T MAKE ANY MONEY!  However, this has been very good for our reputation, so we are still growing strong.  

Since so many other factors in life are actually based on one's credit score- getting a mortgage, insurance rates, employment issues, I am good with folks knowing my score.

Will be curious to see addiitonal comments.

All the best, Michelle

Feb 06, 2012 10:35 AM
Alan May
Jameson Sotheby's International Realty - Evanston, IL
Home is where the hearth is.

Mel - I don't think that Realtors are Dunn & Bradstreet rated.

Michelle - the fact that you have a good credit score and are fiscally conservative... does that make you a better agent?  Does it help you better represent your client?  Because unless it does, it's irrelevant.

Feb 06, 2012 12:36 PM
Donna Harris
Donna Homes, powered by JPAR - TexasRealEstateMediationServices.com - Austin, TX
Realtor,Mediator,Ombudsman,Property Tax Arbitrator

I wouldn't give my full report as that has confidential account numbers and such, but I wouldn't mind giving the summary page that shows the three scores as my scores are over 800. I'm proud of my scores, and many others are ashamed.

You mention some great agents have had tough times because of the market, but truly great agents should always have a book of business and be able to pay their bills.

Feb 06, 2012 12:39 PM
Alan May
Jameson Sotheby's International Realty - Evanston, IL
Home is where the hearth is.

Donna - whether you're proud of ashamed of your scores is not the point.  The question is: does it make you a better agent for the buyer or seller?  Is it one of the facets that customers should use to choose an agent?  Personally, I think not.

Feb 06, 2012 12:46 PM
Donna Harris
Donna Homes, powered by JPAR - TexasRealEstateMediationServices.com - Austin, TX
Realtor,Mediator,Ombudsman,Property Tax Arbitrator

Alan, Didn't I answer that in my second part? If they are a great agent, they should be able to have all their ducks in a row. If they can't juggle their current ducks, maybe that buyer or seller could then make their decision to not add more ducks to that row, in case it goes jagged and not straight?

Feb 06, 2012 01:13 PM
Alan May
Jameson Sotheby's International Realty - Evanston, IL
Home is where the hearth is.

Donna - so, let's see... following that logic.  Alan is a great agent, stellar, in fact... but two years ago, Mrs. Alan lost her job, due to health problems, and has had a lot of medical bills.  She's on the mend, but not ready to go back to work yet.

Due to the loss of her job, they're been surviving on Alan's income alone for the last two years, due in large part, to Alan's juggling of lots of ducks.  And they're paying off the medical bills as quickly as possible, but credit cards have been maxed out, and while there are no actual 30-day-late fees, their credit score has plummeted from what it once was.

You feel that makes Alan a less-than-excellent choice to handle your home purchase?

In fact, let's continue this conversation here.

Feb 06, 2012 01:22 PM
Ellie McIntire
Ellicott City Clarksville Howard County Maryland Real Estate - Ellicott City, MD
Luxury service in Central Maryland

I have impeccable credit, or so I thought until I looked into a possible refinance. Some b#%^*+#} has stolen my identity in Virginia and I know have bogus collections on my credit. Grrrrrr

Feb 06, 2012 02:26 PM
Alan May
Jameson Sotheby's International Realty - Evanston, IL
Home is where the hearth is.

Ellie - well, that's no fun.

Feb 06, 2012 03:06 PM
Betina Foreman
WJK Realty - Austin, TX
Realtor, C.N.E., with WJK REALTY

This seems like a very odd request. I don't get to see their credit report and I am not sharing mine with them. I think this is totally out of line.

Feb 07, 2012 02:12 AM
Donna Harris
Donna Homes, powered by JPAR - TexasRealEstateMediationServices.com - Austin, TX
Realtor,Mediator,Ombudsman,Property Tax Arbitrator

ALan, I understand, but you're not wanting to see the other side, and you gave an example that isn't what you said in your original response. I responded on your other post.

Feb 07, 2012 02:25 AM
Robyn Heathcock
IRG Real Estate - Frisco, TX

Wow, definitely bold!  I agree with you it is definitely irrelevant - client testimonials would definatley go a longer way.

Feb 07, 2012 03:02 AM
Alan May
Jameson Sotheby's International Realty - Evanston, IL
Home is where the hearth is.

Betina - they're welcome to ask whatever they'd like... as long as they don't get upset at my refusal.

Donna - this isn't about the agent "not being able to make it"... this is about the fact that your credit score has nothing to do with whether or not you're a good Realtor.  It's that simple.

Robyn - definitely irrelevant.

Feb 07, 2012 03:16 AM
Anna Tolstoy
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage - Natick, MA

Alan, no matter what my score is, I think it's prvate information that I don't want to share with anyone other than a mortgage broker. No matter what the score is, it gives zilch info about how well the agent does the job. 

On the other hand though, I know of 2 excellent agents with rather low credit score. (I don't know exact numbers, but I do know they are not excellent) This happened because of certain complications they encountered. one example was having joint account with a spendthrift spouse, another had to pay lots of legal fees to fight for child custody in a tough divorce, and the only way to pay was to take more and more credit. Now, in both cases these events prompted the agents to work harder than anyone, and excell to the highest level - to pay off these debts. I would refer / hire these agents in a heart beat over anyone else with better score. 

Feb 07, 2012 02:12 PM
Steven Beam
RE/MAX Alliance - Parker Colorado Real Estate. - Parker, CO
Parker Colorado Real Estate

Just another reason to stay off Trulia and Zillow and the likes. They are our direct competitors. Don't feed the machine.

I've never had a client ask for that but I guess anything is possible these days. If someone asks for that then it is probably a client that you wouldn't want to work for anyway. Right? Refer them out.

Feb 08, 2012 04:59 AM
Alan May
Jameson Sotheby's International Realty - Evanston, IL
Home is where the hearth is.

Anna - two excellent examples of why my credit report has no relevance as to whether I'm a good agent or not.

Steven - I think you're missing out on a potential revenue source. I've had listings and buyers from Trulia... (I used to get them from Zillow, too... but I don't participate there, anymore)...  they're really not direct competitors.

Feb 08, 2012 06:28 AM