Because of the current mortgage crisis my email inbox has been flooded with questions from consumers about loan programs, loan products, and loan features.  Over the last couple years, quite a few of those consumers put their faith in Loan Officers to guide them through the muddy mortgage waters.  Unfortunately, their loan officer may not have been a great navigator.  This could be because Loan Officers do not require a high level of training or education to get a license.  This could also be because loan officers made an extraordinary amount of money, if they kept their clients in the dark.  Any Loan Officer that puts their pocketbook in front of a consumer's well being should be immediately ex-communicated from The Mortgage Industry!  I will save that conversation for another time.  Here is the skinny on some loan programs and products as well as features that many of my clients have had questions about. 

The Good:  These products are the way to go right now.  They are the most stable and in times of uncertainty they will be the "Go To" options.

  • Fixed-Rate Mortgage:  This is a mortgage that has a fixed rate for life of the loan.  These mortgages have terms from 15 to 40 years.  I have even seen some 50 years but that was more on the sub-prime side of the industry and quite frankly is not a good loan.  This type of mortgage has regained popularity due to the decline in the market.  In my opinion, this is probably the best loan to be in right now if you're planning to be your house for any extended period of time.  Even if you do not plan on staying in the loan for a while, it is better to be able to make the decision when you choose to and not when the loan terms require you to refinance.

The Bad:  These are products or features that are currently not the best options for the consumer.  They had their "hey day" and could very well become popular again in a different market.

  • Adjustable Rate Mortgage ARM:  I'm sure everybody has heard all of the evils about this mortgage.  This loan had its time and place!  Notice I said the word had!  Right now this is probably NOT the best loan to be in, unless you have one of the longer term ARM mortgages like five, seven or 10 years.  However, there are scenarios that would call for an ARM.  For instance, I have investors that I work with that would prefer to take the reduction in interest-rate that an ARM provides to save the money in their monthly payments. 
  • Interest Only Mortgage Loans:  This loan was very popular many years ago.  Instead of paying your monthly required interest and a portion of your principle down every month, the minimum required payment was the interest only.  This feature was used to keep payments manageable while not adding on to the principle balance like would happen in a Negative Amortization Loan.
  • Pre-Payment Penalties:  Ah, the Pre-Payment Penalty (PPP).  A necessary evil that allows banks to refinance your mortgage every couple of years and STILL be guaranteed a certain amount of profit.   You see a PPP in actuality ensures that a loan will remain saleable on the secondary market.  Why would an entity purchase a loan that did not have favorable terms if it was not guaranteed a profit?  While there is no absolute guarantee, especially in this market, a PPP allows Mortgage Banks to sleep cozy at night.  In turn you get a little better rate. 

The Down Right Evil: Let's be clear, it is one thing to place a client in a loan when you have good intentions.  These loan products and programs are strictly EVIL and are designed to benefit the Loan Officer and Mortgage Banks only!

  • Negative Amortization Loans:  Basically, these loans allow a borrower to make a monthly payment that is less than the required interest due.  This creates a gap between interest due and interest paid.  That gap is then taken and placed on the principle balance of the loan.  So if your minimum payment was $500 per month and your interest due was $800 per month, then $300 per month would be added on to your principle balance every single month.  If you make that payment for 3 years then you will now have added $10,800 onto your principle balance.   In addition to adding to the balance, the bank is now getting interest payments on your deferred interest.  Can you say double dipping?
  • Option Arm Mortgage:This has also been referred to as the "Toxic ARM" or Pick a Payment Loan.   This is a loan with the low start rate payment like 1%, which has the Negative Amortization feature from above.  You also have the option to pay interest only, 30 Year Fixed, and 15 Year Fixed payments.  This loan is not your friend!  This loan was designed for consumers that wanted to maximize monthly cash flow for other investments that would NET them more money than the homes monthly appreciation.  You know investor type people.  Then a couple of years ago, the Mortgage Banks realized that they made a tremendous amount of money on this loan.  You see it works like this.  The fully indexed rate is variable.  It is based on an index like the COFI, COSI, MTA, etc.  If these indexes go up, so does your fully indexed rate and in turn your payments.  Now if you only pay the Start Rate Payment Option, you get into a Negative Amortization situation and the Bank starts to double dip! 
    • "Wow, we can make a ton of money on this mortgage product!" said the Mortgage Bank.  "We need to sell more of these loans!  Let's tap into the greedy Mortgage Bankers and Brokers on the retail level!  Moooh-ha-ha-haha-ha" 
  • They then decided to pay 3 Points Yield Spread Premium to the Loan Officers who placed people in these loans as long as the loan had a Three-Year Hard Pre-Payment Penalty on it.  You heard it right 3 Points!  Now you have a bunch of slime ball Loan Officers who are jamming people into these loans with the 1% Start Rate as the hook.  They were also putting people into homes that were well beyond their means based on the LOW start rate payment.  So now you have principle balances skyrocketing, indexes going up at a record pace, the market turned, and many people losing their homes.  This is a bad loan!

If you have more questions about Las Vegas Home Loans, feel free to contact me directly.

Your mortgage partner for life,  

Rey "Steak Dinner" Gallegos
Senior Loan Officer
Five Star Mortgage
 

19 Comments on Loan Programs; The Good, The Bad, and The Downright EVIL!

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20
2007
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Generally speaking, for the majority of borrowers out there, I agree with your assessment here Rey.  Nice info for Consumers & Real Estate Professionals.
4:54pm • #1
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Thanks Sardi!  Did you like my evil Mortgage Banker conversation?
4:56pm • #2
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I've heard of these conversations before.  I disagree though that with these rules of thumb - you know how rules of thumb work - the thumb gets you to hitch hiking!
5:20pm • #3
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Yes Rey, I got very bad visual with that one:-)  I understand what Matthew is saying in his comment, yet I think these are general guidelines for the majority of people out there.  Some of the products that were mentioned by Rey saying they were bad or downright evil are niche products for a specific client, whose situation & financial savvy make those make sense.  Never heard that quote though Matthew:-)
5:31pm • #4
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Matthew:  Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Jason: I wish I could have been there for that conversation!

5:38pm • #5
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Steak,

I understand what you are saying, but remember not all Brokers are Honest. The ones that play the field love the Option Arms, because of the lower looking Neg payment, and they get Paid more. I have close to 10 years in the Biz, and I wrote one Option Arm loan for an Investor, and thats it! but thats just me.

Tom Weiss

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Tom: That is exactly my point!  Some Loan Officers are down right evil.  They are only in it for themselves and don't care who's life they ruin as long as they make their money!  It is just plain wrong!  You Tom are one of the good guys!
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Very nice blog Steak Diner......   i agree with it 100%  option arms = very bad!
8:52pm • #8
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Rey, Very informative blog for those of us who don't have all the loan info.
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I have a feeling that I am in a losing proposition no matter what I do.  I respond and I feel I am defending myself or I slink off to another post and make it appear that you are right.

I agree there are dishonest brokers out there and still in the business.  I disagree with the blanket statement that all neg am loans are evil.  For the right person - savvy investor, disciplined self employed or commission based person - this is the perfect loan.  Once you have determined through your questioning of the client what their goals are for the loan, you are then able to fit the loan to the client not vice versa. 

Yes, everyone is entitled to their opinion.  However, making blanket statements about particular loans or financial tools being evil is the equivalent of saying that industrial hemp should be made illegal because the majority of people would abuse the rest of the plant.

10:53pm • #10
NOV
21
2007
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Lewis: Thank you, I concur!

Roberta: Thank you!

9:33am • #11
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Matthew: First off thank you for visiting my post!  The beauty of the Active Rain Community is that there are differing view points from Industry Professionals.  Withoutthat this would just be a boring community.

My assessment on Option Arms is in particular aimed at the 3 Year Hard Pre-Payment Penalty.  Why would anyone give their client a 3 Year PPP as opposed to a 1 Year PPP except for the fact that they are making 2 EXTRA points in rebate.  Don't say there is a lower margin because you and I both know that the difference in margin is miniscule and does not outweigh the risk.  Why doe anyone need to make 3 rebate points anyway?  I totally agree that there are saavy investors out there that can handle this loan.  But why can't they handle it with a 1 Year PPP?

I have been VERY outspoken about this loan since it became popular.  I point blank call out the other LO's in my office that sell this loan.  My question to them is always "Do you have this loan on your house?  Do you have a 3 year hard PPP on it?"  Not one has ever answered YES! 

So I will ask you the same question.

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Yes, I have this loan on my house as well as an investment property.  I honestly don't remember if there is a 3 yr PPP on the house but I know there was only a 1 year PPP on the investment property.

I have asked all my clients I have gotten this loan for how many years of PPP do they want on it?  I have told the ramifications on each and each has chosen the 1 year PPP.  Why did I give them a choice? Because that's how I do business!

on a side note - I was rather sad to see American Broker's Conduit go the way of the dodo - they had some great programs!

 

10:51am • #13
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Matthew:  I am glad to see that you offer your clients the option.  It is important to educate them like you said so at least they will know what to watch out for.

As far as ABC goes, their Power Hybrid Option was fabulous.  Very little risk for the consumer.  I was sad to see them go also.

11:02am • #14
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Rey:  I'm going to split the difference between Mathew's comments and your position.  I think that Mathew is right, that these loans are in and of themselves not evil.  I've done a few of these loans for clients, but have absolutely refused to do one of them for clients only to see them walk down the street to one of my competitors.

One of the payment option arms that I did was for my girlfriend's sister and I can tell you that for her particular situation, it was by far the best program available to her.  If the program was evil, I wouldn't have put her on it.

Over-all though, I think that you're right.  There were some real slime balls out there putting their needs ahead of the customers!  Good post!

 

Bob Mitchell

ValueList Real Estate Services, Inc. 

12:18pm • #15
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Bob:  Thanks for reading! 

When the Bank put that loan out there they never had good intentions for the borrower.   I am specifically talking about The Option ARM (3 YR Hard PPP) with 3 Rebate.  Why didn't they just put it out there with 1 rebate?  Because they make MORE money the longer the person is locked in to the loan.  Tell me one Loan Officer that would sell that loan with a 3 Year Hard PPP if you made the same Rebate as a 1 Year Hard PPP.  It just wouldn't make ANY sense! 

The ONLY reason this loan got as popular as it did is because of the incentive that came with it!  This loan has been around forever at World Savings.  World marketed it to investors and finacial saavy people that could handle the loan.  Then you have CW, Wamu, and a bunch of other banks that decided they could double dip on this loan and make a ton of money.  Their marketing was targeted at the Loan Officers and the big dollars they could make.

I respect your opinion but they should pay out 1 rebate on 1, 2, and 3 year PPP's across the board and let's see how many Option ARM's they sell with a 2 or 3 year hard PPP strictly because the margin is better.

12:32pm • #16
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27
2007
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This one will be included in my monthly newsletter Rey! THanks again for educating your potential clients (and mine) with your vast wealth of knowledge.  I think your second and third points of the down right evil may be one of my clients too :-0

I have faith you will get her out and she will be happy! 

2:07pm • #17
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30
2007
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Great post, Rey.  I totally agree about the uglies, although I think the Bads (at least the ARMs and the IOs) will have another day in the sun when fixed rates approach 8-9% at some future point that seems rather far away at this point.
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