Don't List That Short Sale by Bill Roberts

A lot of real estate agents believe that because their clients are upside down in their homes they have a RIGHT to do a short sale and the bank will approve taking a loss.

It just ain't so. Nobody has a right to do a short sale. It may be a solution, but maybe not.

What are the steps to a successful short sale

            •           Borrower can't make payments

            •           Borrower is in default

            •           Borrower has no assets which could be applied to loan balance

            •           Borrower has tried to sell house for enough to satisfy lender

            •           Only offer would result in short sale

            •           Borrower completes lender "package" of documentation

            •           Offer submitted to lender

            •           Eventually lender responds with a form of counter-offer (maybe we'll take this much)

            •           Buyer accepts counter-offer

            •           Lender counters again (more than once)

            •           Eventually, an agreement is reached

            •           Lender informs broker they will only pay a small commission

             •           Broker has three choices: Cave, Compromise, or Fight

             •           After the commission is resolved, lender will give buyer approximately 15 days to  complete the  transaction

That's what it takes to successfully complete a short sale, but even then it is far from automatic. The lender might not respond to the short sale offer at all, or they might "drag their feet" so long that the house "goes to sale" before the short sale is approved.

Why are they so difficult?

So why are the lenders so hard to deal with? Well, First and Foremost they don't like to lose money. Secondly, they believe that most defaults will be cured prior to sale, some even at the last moment. They have historical data to back up this position. Over the years over 80% of all defaults have resulted in the default being cured and the loan being reinstated.

The third factor, which won't be readily apparent to the borrower, is that the mortgage servicer probably doesn't own the loan any longer. It might be part of a "bundle" of mortgage backed securities (fund) and may not even be owned by any one bank. Since a large percentage of sub-prime home mortgages are in this category, These loans probably can't be approved for a short sale. The "manager" of the fund may not be able to do anything because changing the terms on one single house loan in the package changes the yield on the package and it is the yield that they sold to their investors. They are between a rock and a hard place.

And then there is the fourth main reason the lender might appear to be recalcitrant: PMI.

PMI (private mortgage insurance) is an insurance policy that the lender has to pay them for their loss in the event that they foreclose and get less for the house than they are owed. They (the lender) can buy coverage for any amount of loss, but the normal range of coverage is generally 20% to 40%, with 30% being "normal,"  This means that if the house is foreclosed, the Private Mortgage Insurer will cover the loss on the loan up to the limit of the policy. If this limit is 30%, then the lender is probably better off going to foreclosure than accepting a short sale. The borrower generally pays the premium on the PMI, but not always. The bank is free to buy this insurance themselves. If they have this insurance and for what amount, you won't know because it is none of your business. But it will affect the outcome of the short sale application.

90% of Short Sales Don't Close

With all that there is going on to make a short sale impossible, it's a wonder that any get approved, funded, and closed. So why are you wasting your time on an activity that has such a low probability of resulting in a successful event?

And, as if that wasn't reason enough to avoid short sales, there is the matter of legal liability. The documentation required by the bank to approve a short sale is more complete than the normal documentation to get a loan. The question the bank is going to have is "why could you afford the house when we made the loan, but you can't now?" If the borrower bought the house with a "stated" loan, they may be put in the position of providing written evidence that the lender could use to prosecute them for loan fraud.

And if the real estate agent "advised" them to seek a short sale and as a consequence they are charged with loan fraud, the agent will have liability for their advice.

The Hidden Liability for Agents

Since the house was listed for sale and put on the MLS, there is the question of "disclosures:" who will make them, and who will "assume" liability for them? The home seller is walking away with nothing, they can't assume any liability. The bank isn't actually selling the house because they are merely accepting a payoff of less than they are owed. As far as the bank is concerned it is "as is" because they've never seen the house, much less know anything about its condition and they aren't the owner. Well, if anything goes wrong, it only leaves the agent to take care of the problem. It will probably result in a lawsuit against the broker. Let his E&O insurance pay one of these claims and see what happens: cancellation or massive rate increase plus a change in terms of the policy to exclude short sales. You better check to see if that hasn't already occurred.

If you are an owner of a house that you need to sell and you think it might result in a short sale call me. We can discuss your options for getting out from under your burden with the least negative impact on your life. Bill Roberts (619) 244-4610.

Who Has a Right to a Short Sale?

 

16 Comments on Don't List That Short Sale

NOV
20
2007
116,167 Points 3 Featured Posts Outside Blog
I just turned a short sale listing down - it was a waste of time and would take too much of my valuable time.
11:07pm • #1

The problem (meaning the 10% close ratio) is usually the agent or investor negotiating the sale.  Just this morning I got an approval faxed over on a non delinquent short sale.  Every agent I have ever talked to says that it is impossible to do a short sale on a non DQ file.  The first note was $485K and the accepted payoff was $394K.  The second note was $80K and settled for $5K. 

Many agents don't understand how to get to and work with 'the right people' at the bank, thus the frustrations and turned down files that should have closed EXACTLY as they were presented.  We can't change the lower level paper pushers at the bank, but we can change and improve our own skills.

-Trent Chapman

11:13pm • #2
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Wow Bill, I didn't know that 90% of short sales don't close? 

Selling real estate is getting to be more and more complicated.  Thanks for sharing. 

11:28pm • #3
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Bill this is a great post, my friend.  

I would never take a short sale but refer it out to someone who has the systems in place.  So much is involved and doing the BPOs, I know who the good agents are and I know who the inexperienced agents are in my market.

One of my friends who was pondering the short sale route told me I was "crazy" when I mentioned the agent liability.

Another client went and cashed out in January of this year and in August was asking me to sell short.  Huh uh, no way jose!

If your market is getting 10% of the short sales to go through, is that number from pendings or listings?  Only one point two percent (1.2%) of our listings are closing and 18% of those under contract are closing.  I wish agents would leave these listings to the people who know how to do them. 

And you appear to know what you are doing, congrats! 

Edited to add:  I wish I could flag this for featured!  I forgot they took that away! 

11:32pm • #4
NOV
21
2007
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Short sales are complicated and loaded with pitfalls. Headaches I don't need. I would refer them to someone else.
12:39am • #5
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Bill- We do work in short sales and have had great success with closing and getting paid. We have not been asked to take less than the full amount. We are very picky about which short sale listings we take. We have a system in place. We make sure our sellers sign a statement that they did not commit mortgage fraud when they bought the house and their circumstances have truly changed. We have one going through right now that the seller got laid off. We have done short sales for many years so we have learned along the way. I agree, that agents who do not know how to do them should not do them. You must know what you are doing. Nestor is incredible at getting the lenders to talk with him and listen to the stories and his BPO's. 

The problem more so here is that the market can not sustain these prices and the lenders are starting to realize that in a year it will be worse for them. Right now in a certain neighborhood where the flippers landed hard on their butts most all the owners owe $600,000 and the house is only worth $350,000 today and will only be worth $280,000 by the end of next year. This is not about people not being able to pay mortgages so much as it is people not being able to sell because their property value plummeted. Katerina 

12:43am • #6
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Short sale?  I won't even discuss it unless the seller comes clean and tells me either that they have already missed two months of payments OR they've already received their NOD.  And then it depends on which lender they are with.  Some are more reasonable than others.  Otherwise, the banks are swamped with more pressing concerns.  Just my opinion.
9:04pm • #7
109,021 Points 11 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Wayne, good choice. Thanks for commenting.

Bill Roberts

10:42pm • #8
109,021 Points 11 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Rebecca, I hope everything is going well for you.

Trent, I don't know what to say to you. What you say is contrary to everything I know about this business.

Wayne, your welcome.

Thanks to each of you.

Bill Roberts

10:47pm • #9
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Renee, you are a very hard working professional. If this wasn't written about you it was written for you.

You are quite right, your time is better spent doing what makes you money.

thank you very much for the kind words. I really appreciate it.

Bill Roberts

10:51pm • #10
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Katerina, Everybody knows what a mess the South Florida market is. I'm glad you are able to make sense of it. But for the rest of us it is better to just leave short sales alone. Too little reward and too much risk. It is out of balance.

Bill Roberts

10:55pm • #11
109,021 Points 11 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Chris, your opinion is always welcome here. Especially when it is so agreeable.

thank you my friend.

Bill Roberts

10:57pm • #12
372,778 Points 63 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog

It was at a short Sale Seminar that we met Bill. What a great day it was. Your post is wonderful and very instructive as well as intuitive.

Bill, Here is wishing you and your family a Wonderful and Happy Thanksgiving

Sincerely,
William

11:46pm • #13
NOV
22
2007
109,021 Points 11 Featured Posts Outside Blog

William, Thank you. Happy Thanksgiving to you too. We're going to Irene's sister's house tommorrow, so I'll roast our turkey on sunday. Two thanksgivings this year. Symbolic? I don't know.

Bill Roberts

12:11am • #14
JAN
24
2008
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Bill, this was an Excellent Post.  I'm glad you mentioned it in your blog today or I would have missed it altogether...unfortunately.  I am bookmarking it for reference.  I've come to the conclusion that this type of sale...the short sale is just not worth it.  I think many of the best Realtors are rapidly reaching that point.  Now, I understand why banks desperately need to be able to hire their own real estate agents to sell their burgeoning inventory of returned homes. And why they're fighting NAR's efforts to preclude that!
4:26pm • #15
109,021 Points 11 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Lola, You've put your finger on a major shift taking place in the financial services marketplace. I include real estate in that sector. Banks will be in the real estate business, sooner rather than later.

Thank you for your kind words.

Bill Roberts

4:45pm • #16

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