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Earlier today, Lenn Harley posted California Subprime Borrowers May Get Relief? - More Questions Than Answers.   It's Lenn's insightful commentary to posts written by Bryant Tutas and Gena Riede concerning the frightful number of looming foreclosures in certain markets.  Specifically, Gena emphasized the concerned efforts of California's governor to offer some relief to borrowers in serious financial distress.  The governor of Massachusetts was the first to offer a plan of sorts earlier this year. 

While the initiative shown by state governments to confront the foreclosure epidemic is laudable, I doubt that localized efforts can pack the punch needed to make an appreciable difference.
  Federal intervention is the sole option that makes sense at this very late date.  Some pundits are quick to blame Wall Street for the debacle while others point to lenders and an unmistakable affinity for product design that most assuredly spells disaster for borrowers.  Others want to place all the blame on borrowers for a lack of prudence and a fever-like desire to own palatial residences at any cost.  In reality, the protocol in real estate markets started to deteriorate during the mid-1990's as evidenced by the first sustained spike in foreclosure rates in the history of this country.  Previous eruptions in default numbers were relatively short lived and linked to economic, micro or macro, downturns.  In our current scenario, foreclosure statistics escalated a decade ago and have continued to climb since.  Most disturbing is the apparent lack of corresponding economic factors to explain the phenomena.  Like it or not, foreclosure activity is a solid benchmark of mortgage fraud and predatory lending.  Mortgage fraud and predatory lending are often characterized as distinctly different forms of abuse.  In reality, the disparities between them are academic at best. Coincidently, it was during this same period that sub-prime lending gained traction.  While sub-prime lending is one of many causation factors, it is not the root of the problem.

I feel that a study conducted by October Research in 2006 sheds light on the crux of the matter.  Of 1,200 professional appraisers surveyed nationwide, 90 percent admitted feeling pressured by real estate agents, mortgage brokers and others to inflate values to levels needed to make deals work.  Threats of negative business consequences for lack of cooperation were reported by 75 percent of the appraisers who participated in the study.  It was an inflated appraisal here and falsified verification there - ad infinitum - that laid the groundwork for the nightmare that's about to reveal itself.  Lending practices and Wall Street's malaise, or possibly its unfettered greed, added fuel for the fire.  It's no laughing matter that a generation of mortgages with ridiculously low teaser rates, used to qualify borrowers, are about to adjust ... upwardly of course.   The cost of gasoline is another factor, as is the appearance of inflation, and don't forget the devaluation of the U.S. dollar in foreign markets.  We stand at the brink of a perfect storm that will forever change the nature of homeownership in this country.  We'll talk about it for decades the way our parents, or grandparents, spoke of the great depression.  Real estate will no longer be a path to financial security as it was for past generations.  And, once the feds are forced to regulate real estate markets, the intrusion will have lasting effects and leave permanent scars.

I often joke that I'm the only one in my local circle of friends that doesn't live in a million dollar home.  Of course, their homes aren't worth what they were worth only a year ago while the escalating property taxes are analogous to a noose at a lynching.  Two years ago the average selling price for a starter home in Baltimore was a tad under $300,000.  For anyone that follows average incomes: that dog don't hunt. 

 A bill introduced in the house by Rep. Brad Miller and Rep. Linda Sanchez exemplifies a governmental response with positive, short-term possibilities.  H.R. 3609: Emergency Home Ownership and Mortgage Equity Protection Act of 2007 would bestow upon bankruptcy courts the authority to reform defaulted mortgages.  Borrowers filing under Chapter 13 could ask the court to change loan terms ( principal reduction, lowering of interest rate, etc. ) to allow for sustainable payments.  H.R. 3609 is a band aid and nothing more.  But does anyone else have a better idea? Currently, 1 out of every 196 U.S. households is in foreclosure.  Foreclosure is no longer something that happens to those people living in those neighborhoods.  The problem has legitimately reached the status of an epidemic that's poised to attack middle class America on a broad and wide scale.

For an interesting read, I strongly recommend The Mystery of Capital: Why Capitalism Triumphs in the West and Fails Everywhere Else by Hernando De Soto.
  Published in 2000, the book effectively predicted current market conditions.   Was the problem precipitated by a credit crunch or was it precipitated by an expectation that home equity would increase forever?   Consider the differences and implications.  Families radically changed their lifestyles and spending habits due to the perceived presence of equity. The perception of wealth that didn't exist created by perceived equity that didn't exist sums up the situation honestly.  Consider the lasting effects on a family when mortgages exceed a property's value.  In a real sense, many have frivolously mortgaged their futures and their hopes for retirement.  Nowhere else on the planet can homeowners access equity as we do in this country.  The devaluation of housing markets has revealed the folly of our ways.

Lenn suggested that we continue the dialog by first posting and then forming a group to aggregate our thoughts and opinions.  I feel that it's a great idea.

 

35 Comments on A Recipe for Unmitigated Disaster

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2007
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Ed I am so happy to see you come up with a spin off post.  I think we all have our opinions and each different market is shaped differently so dynamics of fraud may be a little a different from locale to locale.

Your opinion means much to me and how do you feel about large scale prosecution of guilty parties to this "unmitigated disaster"?  I am not trying to open any wounds, my friend, I am just looking for your feelings on this.  Do you think we would prevent this in the future for punishing past mistakes?  

I hope you are not offended by my comment, it is not my intention to do so! Has the group been formed?  I am certainly interested in joining.

6:22pm • #1
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Renee

I strongly support the widespread prosecution of all involved in mortgage fraud and predatory lending.  We need the laws and the funding to make it happen.  Right now only egregious and notorious offenders are prosecuted.  It's not enough. 

You can always feel free to approach me with any question.   I'm not offended at all.

6:29pm • #2
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Wonderful Ed. I'll add a link to my post to this.

However, I have to add that, IMO, 9/11 had a LOT to do with our present disaster.  I can trace the problems in our area directly to that attack and the resulting 4 years of manipulation by the fed to bolster the financial markets. 

Rapid escalation of prices, a rise in interest rates and almost stagnant incomes are, IMO, a major cause of our present problem.  There are, of course, many other contributing factors and I'm sure we'll hear of them in comments herein.

I don't believe we're going to get a group together.  We are already all over ActiveRain with this thread.  I'll just try to keep adding links as folks post their own views. 

Thanks again.

6:32pm • #3
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Lenn

You're very welcome and I strongly agree about the potent affects of 9/11. 

6:35pm • #4
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Lenn:  THat is interesting that you brought 9/11 up as I have a similar theory.  I also have an energy theory that will be mentioned in my spin off post.  

Ed:  Thanks for answering my question and giving your opinion.  I do believe that if the state spent more time and money putting hotlines and websites for fraud up and geared towards the attorney general, more can be done with prosecuting and they would have greater insight to what did and is going on rather than playing politics with giving false hope.   

6:48pm • #5
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Ed,

A host of factors are responsible for the current malaise in the real estate marketplace. One of them was the swift increase in home prices that clouded the thinking of just about everybody. As long as prices kept rising, it didn't matter if the appraisal was high or the marginal borrower took a 100% stated loan etc. Good points.

7:10pm • #6
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Esko

Thanks.  Without a doubt, the crises could not exist were it not for a breakdown of appraisal protocol. 

7:12pm • #7
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There are so many things that caused all this mess, 9-11, sub-prime lending, investors, wall street, unethical lenders who know they would sell the loans, our gov't for throwing money in through housing, appriasers. I believe the finger can't be pointed at one thing.

I trust you Ed and I will get the book and read it.

FYI: Our downturn in Michigan started BEFORE 9-11 and all the above. It started when we lost jobs because the Big 3, restructured. That's a nice word for laid off thousands of employees which trickled down to the widget makers. The Realtors knew this in early 2001, way before 9-11. The markets that will rebound first are those that have new jobs and are not limited to one big industry like us in Michigan with the automotive.

7:20pm • #8
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Missy

Without a doubt, Michigan's initial downturn correlates with local economic factors.  I almost mentioned it in the post.  The book is very interesting and a worthwhile read for any real estate professional.  It's not as academic and stuffy as its title suggests.

7:23pm • #9
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Ed,

Renee's comment above intrigues me:

"...do you feel about large scale prosecution of guilty parties to this "unmitigated disaster"?  I am not trying to open any wounds, my friend, I am just looking for your feelings on this.  Do you think we would prevent this in the future for punishing past mistakes"? 

I'm big that 'blame' rarely ever solves anything. I've seen many abuses in lending practices...the ultimate solution is for laws to be enacted recognizing these abuses and prosecuting 'future' violators...in other words give the many 'guilty' parties still standing and still operating an opportunity to alter their courses...blame for what is past falls on so large a segment of the real estate industry that real prosecution of offenders would be impractical and very costly...instead put the effort and the dollars toward preventing future abuses! In other words, shape up or ship out! 

When lenders allowed LTV's at and over 100%, the 'slippery slope' was too late to be stopped. JMHO, Thanks,   Fran

7:29pm • #10
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Fran

I hear you my friend and realize that you are a man of great compassion.  I still believe that well publicized convictions can initiate proper behavior among the masses.  At least to a degree.  You're right that it would be an impossibility in this case to conduct investigations on a very wide scale.  Still .... What is the answer? 

7:34pm • #11
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Freaking Brilliant & wonderfully articulated Ed.  I wish I knew the answer, quite frankly.  I long for the brain and/or brains that come along or are already here to solve the issues at hand.  Then again, I also sometimes think the answer is here and it's letting us sort things out.
8:38pm • #12
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I cannot even fathom the repercussions of what we fear will happen over the next few years....I agree it is probably something we have never seen up to now.

What really causes me concern is that while we discuss the subject at length....most agents I meet are talking about "after next year etc." without a clue as to what could be looming. When clearly our "job description" will surely change

9:56pm • #13
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Ed,

RESPA should rollback to pre CBA days and be included in a new Omnibus Bill by Congress incorporating reforms for all phases of a real estate transaction...offer a one year moratorium to all to comply and reform their operations... and then prosecute like hell if there is non-compliance!!! Thanks,   Fran

P.S. BTW, This bill should be the product of the best and most respected in our industry collaborating with Congressional  and HUD representatives!

10:27pm • #14
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Ed, I think prosecuting only the most egregious cases is the best course to follow. I agree with Fran that wholesale prosecutions would be disastrous for our industry and way to costly.

October Research makes their living publicizing Respa prosecutions. They benefit from turmoil.

Bill Roberts

10:29pm • #15
Ed, as painful as it seems, we need to let the chips fall where they may.  The Great Depression levied unimaginable hardship on he majority of the population of this country.  Tell me that experience did not have an effect on people's decisionmaking and perception of personal responsibility in the decades that followed.  We have to avoid short term fixes, band aid solutions, etc. and let the unfortunate misguided and greedy learn from their mistakes.  The longer we find shelter as a society under the umbrella of some government sponsired fix the more we slip into Socialism.
11:17pm • #16
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2007
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I don't really have a comment specific to the post, just an opinion that this is one of the best posts and comment threads that I've read in quite some time on this network.
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Ed,

Although I am a libertarian at heart, and don't believe in 'big government', nevertheless government must do for people what they can't do for themselves...a simple example would be our 'road systems'...this is a practical role that government best handles...perhaps 'health care' will be next, and then real estate unless we get our act together and 'police our own industry'...we know where the 'cleanup' should start...let's get on with it!!! Thanks,   Fran

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I am a believer in responsibility..... for both the consumer and the banks.

Consumers bought way too much house(counting on the equity to make the payments) and banks gave them the money to do it....

Both squandered great opportunities and should reap what they sowed. I do not want to pay for their mistakes GREED!!!

7:43am • #20
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Well done Ed. This is certainly the hot topic this week. It's great to able to log on here and get a real discussion from folks that are in the trenches.

In my area, central Florida, I would not have wanted to be an appraiser during the boom. They were definitely under pressure to make deals work. Lenders wanted the loan and they wanted them bad. Wall Street was screaming for more securities and ALL of us wanted to sell houses. However, it was also very difficult for an appraiser to not "hit the price" when we had multiple offers on properties for way more than the list price and recent sales.

Who's to say my listing is not worth $200,000 (even though comps are coming in at $185,000) when I have 5 offers on the table, from willing and able buyers, ready to purchase at $200,000 or more?

The boom was a runaway train and we ALL did our part to keep it on track. Unfortunately it has now derailed. I think the issue is, not who's to blame but rather.....what do we do now?

9:21am • #21
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Jason - Like you I have only questions.  I do believe that change is looming in the not so distant future.  Thanks for the kind words.

Joan - You and I are the same page.  This storm has only started and job descriptions in our industry will be altered drastically.   The feds have no choice but to react as there's much at stake.

Fran - I've lost faith in RESPA.  It's antiquated and has no applicability to the real world in 2007.  The time for sweeping reform is now.  I like your idea of firing a warning shot before seeking prosecutions.  

Bill - The feds would agree that convicting the notorious few is the way to go.  I doubt that funding will exist for anything other.  Like you, there are aspects of October Research that bother me.  For the most part, I find the company's publications to be the most informative available today.  I think the studies are above reproach.

9:36am • #22
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Bill  - I'm generally a staunch critic of governmental intrusion.  In this instance, there may be no other obvious choice.  A boarded-up middle America would throw the economy into a tailspin.  This problem is huge and will require a great deal of time to sort out.  I don't think that self-correction is a viable option since artificially low interest rates might have sparked the eruption.

Chris & Jason - Thanks! 

Fran - I believe that reformation of the industry is in order.  But, it is it possible without legislation?  Is it too late to use reform to circumvent the looming crises?  The next 6 months should prove interesting indeed.

Tom - Amen!  I too believe in personal responsibility and accountability.  But, what do we do about the countless households that are ready to default on their mortgages.  The system is at fault.  Accordingly, I think we're all going to pay the price for allowing it to happen.

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Ed, it seems that my original post has made quite an impact. No matter what we do or don't do to correct this, I believe it will be devastating to our economy and have long lasting repercussions. Most of what I read has the same jingle...multiple offers, irresponsible home buyers, refinancing...blah, blah, blah but few have mentioned the enormous episodes of fraud. I wrote about over a year ago and in fact, Ed you were a guest writer on my outside blog in Sacramento.

There were many who got into Real Estate and Lending with no clue and no fortitude of character...thereby lending to this mass mess. I don't have the answer, I only know that putting my head in the sand or turning away from it, will not solve the problem. Wish there was an easy answer.

10:01am • #24
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Bryant

I like the analogy of a run-away train.  We've decidedly found ourselves in a situation with a life of its own.  In many ways, I believe this may morph into the greatest crises ever faced by this nation.  So many people, properties, and careers are involved.  The numbers are daunting. 

10:13am • #25
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Gena

I'm glad you've raised the issue.  It certainly has sparked interest on Active Rain and has given me an opportunity to crystallize my thoughts.   Yours was the first invitation that I received to write a guest post.  I'll always appreciate it.

10:17am • #26
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Ed,

An avalanche or a tsunami can't be stopped by legislation...but legislation is the American Way of solving problems...A comprehensive 'Omnibus Bill' is needed to reform our industry...it will come too late it seems to prevent the avalanche or tsunami, but it will prevent future catastrophes from occurring. Bryant is right on the mark when he says, "I think the issue is, not who's to blame but rather.....what do we do now?" Thanks,   Fran

10:30am • #27
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Fran

I ask you, how does a government bring about a paradigm shift when the game and the players are previously tainted?  Because the rules change doesn't mean that the situation will improve.  We can't go forward without studying the issue and its multitude of causes.  It would be like a doctor operating without first making a diagnosis.  Money is missing and there's no choice but to play the blame game.

We don't agree on this one my friend.

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Excuse me Ed, Marsha what do you think happens in a Foreclosure where the bank accepts less than what is owed. Short Sales are not good for banks, there is no tax write off...so yes there is money missing all over the place.
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2007
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Ed,

David Walker of the Government Accountability Office recently gave an interview to Newsweek where he gave some pretty startling statistics. 

  • Medicare and medicaid are not sustainable right now.  Medicare is underfunded by over $32 trillion in curerent-dollar terms, of which the Medicare prescription-drug benefit is underfunded by $8 trillion.
  • People have a false sense of security, because U.S. deficits have come down for three years in a row, when in reality the structural imbalance between our long-range commitments and our projected revenues has continued to grow every year.
  • Mr. Walker has compared the U.S. to the Roman empire, which lasted twice as long as the United States.  He contends that people are too focused on today and not taking enough steps to prepare for a better tomorrow. 
  • The most likely fiscal crisis that we would see is a reluctance on behalf of foreign investors to continue to buy our debt at the rate that they have in the past, for the interest rates that we are providing. 
  • I wrote a post on this interview, but to read the interview directly, here's the link.  It's scary stuff but ties in with our current housing debacle. 

2:56am • #30
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Marsha - I too have pondered the concept of "missing money" as a result of the current housing crisis.  In all honestly, housing values hyper-appreciated than depreciated, to varying degrees, in virtually every market in this country. I don't know why people won't admit it.  For those who sold high and didn't buy high it was a very good thing.  For those who bought high the future may be questionable depending on region.  For those who excessively encumbered their homes the prospects are dismal.  While its been said that wealth is a "zero sum game," I don't think we're dealing with a traditional correction this time around.  The causation factors are remarkably diverse and disparate.  When homes devalued as they did recently, the American consumer lost something of value over-night.   Even if it was only the perception of wealth, it shouldn't have happened.  Our economy, and lexicon of social values, are highly dependent on stable real estate markets.  If my house was worth $500,000 last year and is now worth only $400,000, what happened to the difference?  Worse still, what if my house has devalued to $400,000, but has a mortgage of $450,000 based on a prior valuation?

And, like Gena said:  Banks lose money on every shorted sale.  Banks are also losing big on their REO portfolios due to devalued markets.

Gena - Thank you! 

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Fran

This is possibly the most thoughtful comment I've ever read.  It's important to recognize that our nation's confidence in its continued prosperity isn't a perspective shared around the globe.  Foreign investors are questioning the strength of our economy.  I love the analogy between the U.S. and the Roman Empire.  Thank you! 

8:04am • #32
My husband and I were victimized by ourmortgage broker, appraiser and lender.  Our Good Faith Estimate showed a fixed rate loan; when we got to closing on a Friday at 4 p.m., we received an adjustable rate, interest only mortgage and a second mortgage/equity line of credit!  We were past the closing date due to the lender, and the seller said if we did not sign then they would keep our $11,000.00 deposit.  We called the broker - she was out of the country; we called the lender, they said they lowered our payments to "help" us; and recently we found out that the appraisal was inflated by approximately $25,000.!  We had the mortgage bropker investigated by the State and they found she violated Statutes; we have the appraiser being investigated as well.  If the State confirms what we already know (the County Appraiser and an independent appraisal confirmed inflated square footage and value), the State will go after the lender for conspiracy and fraud by all three.  We also contacted the Attorney General's office and they are investigating this matter as well.  I'm a Paralegal, my husband is an Electrician, we make good money, had decent credit (640) and qualified for a fixed rate mortgage.  Our broker chose to get us the ARM loan because she also got a kick-back (yield spread premium paid out of closing) from the lender.  Mortgage brokers and lenders will not admit what they did over the past few years, ut I honestly believe there were many people like us who got their loans switched without any notification.  I don't care what a lender or broker says, the appraiser is 100% at fault because ultimately it is their findings that will approve a loan.  If a home doesn't appraise, the broker and lender lose out - the appraiser will lose their business but what about ethics?  None of these three groups even knoe the meaning.  My husband and I are going ful throttle against the broker, lender and appraiser.  Borrowers have rights and need to contact their State agencies to investigate these criminals!
Gilda Nazario
10:11am • #33
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Gilda

In my mind, it takes a great deal of courage to comment as you have and to report the improprieties  to authorities.  The situation described by you points to a breakdown of protocol in your transaction.  Yes, appraisers do cheat and often times borrowers are placed in compromised positions due to complancency among highly paid professionals like your lender.   I encourage all consumers to report similar incidents.

Thank you for commenting. 

10:22am • #34
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Nice post, but I disagree with you on a couple of points.  The first of which is when you said that the mortgage mess started with "an inflated appraisal here..."  While I'm sure that you're right that these things did happen and contribute, I don't think that it was the basis for the problem.

The problem started when Wall Street started putting together investment vehicles made up of non-conforming loans and selling them as something that they were not; investment grade bonds.  By bundling riskier loans with less risky loans and having them rated as investment grade by companies such as Moody's, Wall Street mislead the buyers of these bonds into believing that they were something that they were not.

If an investor wanted a higher level of return and was willing to accept a higher level of risk, then what's the problem?  There isn't one.  The problem was in hiding the true level of risk from the investor.  It wasn't the type of loan product itself, it was the fact that the investor was mislead.

Bob Mitchell

ValueList Real Estate Services, Inc. 

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