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A Plethora of the Unwelcome

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Home Inspector with JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC HOI 394

One of my little friendsThere is no question about it; there are some things one does not want to find during a home inspection. Now I am not speaking as a sissy home inspector who doesn’t want to run up against a big ugly spider in a crawl space or a beady eyed rat in an attic, I for surely don’t. Little friends that drop by unexpectedly are part of the job. What I am speaking of are certain “biggies” that send chills down the spine of an agent and can send a buyer running, not walking for the door.

What can be worse is when you bundle.

Walking the exterior of a house during a recent inspection I spied peeking above the soil like a U boats’ periscope, the vent of an under ground oil tank.

Biggie number one.

The news of an under ground oil tanks on the property is not often received like the news of a winning lottery ticket, it can be more likened to the news of a death in the family.Vent for an under ground oil tank

Usually.

This particular unrepresented buyer didn’t seem to understand all the hubbub. The blank look sort of clued me into to his cluelessness. Fortunately his better half had a better understanding.

The issue was presented to the unrepresented seller. Boy do I dislike FSBOs. “Oh, no problem the tank has been removed”, was his reply.

“Do you have paper work to show my clients that it has been properly removed”, was my retort now playing real estate agent. Did I mention I hate FSBOs.

“I did it myself” he said.

I don’t know if my jaw hitting the ground or the look on my face sent him scurrying after something. The unrepresented seller returned in a flash with a small opaque bucket. It was full of dirt.

“Here” he says, to the buyer, “you can have this tested” presenting the bucket of soil like it was a bundle of jewels. “It’s dirt from the yard where the tank was.”

Or dirt from the neighbor’s garden I’m thinking. This was just getting better and better. Bottom line, there is no paper work from a qualified tank removal company and no soil test declaring the site is clean. Did I mention the home is on well water, no I don’t think I did.The hopes and dreams of a buyer :(

So my clients have this unrepresented sellers word the tank is gone and a bucket of dirt.

Perhaps they can bury their hopes for this house with the soil.

 

James Quarello
Connecticut Home Inspector
Former SNEC-ASHI President
NRSB #8SS0022
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC

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James Quarello
Connecticut Home Inspector
Former SNEC-ASHI President
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC

 ASHI Certified Inspector

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JOSH EVANS *JoshEvansHomes 516-655-5000
Village Properties of Mineola, LLC - Mineola, NY

Great blog and great job. Keep up the good work. Good luck to you this year. Thanks. 

Feb 14, 2012 11:11 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

"I saw them do it on TV..."  People like that are idjits.  Would they be buyers on the other end of that?

That there hub bub is a circumstance you could write a blog about!  I look forward to it!  Be sure to mention the bucket of dirt...

Actually, I enjoyed it a lot!

Feb 14, 2012 11:11 PM
Brenda Mayette
Miranda Real Estate Group, Inc. - Glenville, NY
Getting results w/ knowledge & know-how!

Fantastic post, James!! Guess the seller didn't think about all that's REALLY involved when hiring an agent... it's not all just commission! Thanks for a great illustration of the value of a professional Realtor AND the value of a professional inspector!!

Feb 14, 2012 11:23 PM
Andrea Swiedler
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices New England Properties - New Milford, CT
Realtor, Southern Litchfield County CT

Jim, I can tell you one thing, I am glad your story didn't involve my buyers, I had a hard enough time on our last inground tank adventure. Don't want any more....

I like this post so much I will be back to reblog!

Feb 14, 2012 11:41 PM
Peg Barcelo
Fluff My House! Home Staging Inc. 250.486.6369 - Summerland, BC
The FlufftasticStager from Summerland, BC

JQ, I love that bucket! lol! This seller must think others are really stupid... If he took the tank out, why is the vent still there? Great post! I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall, just to see your expression...

Feb 15, 2012 12:00 AM
Ed Silva, 203-206-0754
Mapleridge Realty, CT 203-206-0754 - Waterbury, CT
Central CT Real Estate Broker Serving all equally

And the reason it's an unrepresented seller is because every agent that came in asked about the tank and getting it out. I know of home owners that have dealt with the tanks themselves, and most of them were smart enough to remove the fill and drain piping.

Feb 15, 2012 12:03 AM
Wayne Zuhl
Remax First Realty II - Cranford, NJ
The Last Name You'll Ever Need in Real Estate

Filing this one in the 'just when you think you've heard it all' file :) Horrors!

Feb 15, 2012 12:12 AM
Joe Petrowsky
Mortgage Consultant, Right Trac Financial Group, Inc. NMLS # 2709 - Manchester, CT
Your Mortgage Consultant for Life

Great blog, thank you for sharing it with all of us. All these issues can be resolved, as long as you have a committed seller and a committed seller.

If we focus on the problems, rather than the solutions, then nothing gets resolved.

Feb 15, 2012 01:39 AM
Atlanta's Home Inspector, David Lelak IHI Home Inspections
IHI Home Inspections 404-788-2581 - Canton, GA
Experience the IHI Difference

Great illustration of why professional real estate agents and professional inspectors are needed during the real estate transaction process! OH and the bucket of dirt... I guess the owner had been hanging onto that for years, waiting to offer his proof, that yes, he did dig a little around that tank. What a nightmare knowing that it could alter the integrity of their water supply! Thanks for this article :)

Feb 15, 2012 04:40 AM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Jim, are you sure that was a bucket of dirt and not a bucket of horse $%@#?

Feb 15, 2012 12:16 PM
Reuben Saltzman
Structure Tech Home Inspections - Minneapolis, MN
Delivering the Unbiased Truth.

Ha!  I see very few oil tank in my area, but the last time I found a buried, abandoned oil tank in a yard I stuck my tape measure in to the pipe, and it came out dripping with oil.  I didn't have to write that there was a 'suspected' tank in the yard.  

Couldn't you pull a similar trick?  I ask because I really don't know.  

Feb 15, 2012 01:56 PM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Josh, Haven't you said that before?

Jay, I just say ids. I found out the home has been for sale a loooong time. Can anyone guess why that might be?

Brenda, The seller did have an agent, but let the listing agreement expire. He met this buyer while the house listed and made a side agreement. Lousy thing to do.

Andrea, Yes, I remember that oil tank debacle. At least I didn't have to struggle through all the none sense. I guess that would make me want to run too. Oh, and thanks for reblog.

Peg, I guess he thinks us inspectors are dumb. That was everyones though, if the tank is gone, why is the vent still there. Hmmmm.

Ed, Better yet they should have had the tank removed, but like you said at least they had the sense to remove the pipes.

Wayne & Jean, Yep, this is one for the books.

Joe, I certainly agree, but that is not always the case. These people are both unrepresented, which doesn't make for good negotiations. 

Feb 15, 2012 10:21 PM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

David & Bonnie, The seller really has no clue about how the process works today. With inspections buyers are much more protected from the unscrupulous. 

Charlie, Yep, quite sure. That was coming from the sellers mouth. Or was that the bull variety. :)

Reuben, Good idea, but this was vent. They are often angled. I will keep that tip in mind though for the next time. 

Feb 15, 2012 10:26 PM
Lisa Von Domek
Lisa Von Domek Team - Dallas, TX
....Experience Isn't Expensive.... It's Priceless!

Hello James,

What, you seem to be saying you don't trust that Seller's dirt...LOL  I hope that your buyers do more investigating (or) run away from this one!

Feb 16, 2012 05:49 AM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Lisa, No, I don't trust that dirt :) The buyers should be running from this house.

Feb 16, 2012 09:43 PM
Eric Middleton
Closer Look Property Inspections Inc. - Uniondale, NY
Professional Property Inspector

James - excellent post,excellent! Shows the value of a home inspection.

Feb 17, 2012 06:28 AM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Eric, Thanks. 

Feb 18, 2012 07:52 PM
Reuben Saltzman
Structure Tech Home Inspections - Minneapolis, MN
Delivering the Unbiased Truth.

The only problem was that my tape measure smelled like fuel oil for the next two weeks.

Feb 19, 2012 10:26 AM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

Reuben, That's not good, oil has a very nasty odor. I was so glad when I changed over to gas and got rid of my oil tank in the basement. 

Feb 19, 2012 08:08 PM