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Deal or No Deal? Part Two

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Yesterday I detailed how subprime loans are chopped, diced and sold into various segments to investors.  I think it was pretty clear but just in case here's a refresher course (YT Video) from CNBC: LINK

 

The important take away is that the company that you think might own the mortgage is in fact only the servicer of the mortgage.  The actual loan has been split into five different pools with any number of different investors buying portions of those pools.  There is no ONE owner to modify the loan.

BACK TO ARNOLD'S

happydays Although it's hard to find the actual details of "the deal", here's what I can determine for Arnold's plan to be effective...

  • The Lender will have to have NOT sold the loan.  This does happen.  Portfolio lenders have a better chance of keeping their loans, but none of the 4 mentioned are portfolio.
  • The Borrower must not have ever fallen behind.   This happens too.  I have to wonder though how often.  I've seen reports that up to 70% of homeowners that lose their homes thru foreclosure NEVER contact their lender.  How many of these resets will fall behind first, then decide to call their lender, only to find out they are too late?
  • Primary residence only, no investment properties.   Nobody invests in CA Real Estate do they?  While the majority might be primary homes I also imagine we have a high number of Investment homes in trouble.
  • Only those that lenders determine cannot make the reset payment.  Isn't this another arbitrary rule putting the final determining factor in the hands of the those that made the decision to give this loan to someone who can't afford it in the first place?

Once again, real facts are very hard to find.  Much of this is conjecture and speculation.  While they specify "Reset" I also have to wonder about the other R word, "Recast".  Does this plan not include those that have a Payment Option ARM?  I see these as being the real toxic loans out there.  Remember, I used to have an Option ARM Factory on the same floor as my building.  I know there's plenty of Option ARMs out there.   They have to include those loans right?  Don't bet on it.

As toxic as you might think the dreaded Payment Option ARM is, they were never classified as Subprime.   That's right.  They are an Alt-A product.  Does that mean they are not included in the Arnold Plan?  He specifically called it a Subprime Plan.  Once again, nobody knows.  Personally, I wouldn't bet on it.

THIS ISN'T HAPPY DAYS

arnoldsI found plenty of real estate blogs touting the good news.  "We're Saved!", they said putting the Gov up on a shiny marble column.  Many of the comments on those blogs have also been of the same voice.  "It's about time!"  and, "Arnold will force these no good Lenders into doing the right thing", and "What a great post for Sacramento, For Californian for the whole country.  Accurate in all the details. And it sounds live the Governor heard it, and shared it with the top lenders... now if the others will just follow."

The mainstream media followed suit or visa versa.  Here's a sampling from San Diego, MSNBC, San Jose, and Stockton.  Granted, reporters and blog writers are not financial experts.  Arnold (the Gov.) might run the state, and we might be a pretty big state (GDP), but there are realistic limits to what he can really do. 

I did find just one differing opinion outside the typical bubble bloggers.  The Modesto Bee (geographically close to the Foreclosure Capital of Stockton, CA) reported a slightly different story than the rest.  "Those four lenders, however, told The Bee on Wednesday that their lending policies haven't changed and the governor didn't get them to agree to anything new."

I like reporters that dig a little deeper than the press release for a story.   

The list of politicians raging against the lending machine grows daily.  Barney Frank, Chuck Schumer, Eliot Spitzer, Hillary Clinton, and on and on...  Which leads me to ask the question, Is this all just Political Posturing at it's best?  Not just by Arnold but by the Loan Servicer's as well? I hope not.   Only time will tell. 

One thing is clear.  If you are homeowner in trouble now, or heading into trouble soon.  Do something yourself now - don't hope and wish and pray that somebody will come and rescue you.  Start talking to a real mortgage professional now!  The Terminator isn't coming to save you - this isn't an Arnold Movie.  It's real life and your home is at stake. 


Comments(7)

Thomas Weiss
Thomas R. Weiss - West Palm Beach, FL

Mike,

There are alot of Good Portfolio Lenders out there. I met with Riverside the other day, as well as Amtrust, and World Savings.

Nicely Done,

Nov 27, 2007 02:36 AM
Mary Smartt
Lawton Associates / www.LawtonAssociates.com - Berkeley, CA
Smartt Moves with Mary Smartt
Mike--always great at breaking down the facts for us. Thanks! Have you seen the report out of the US Mayor's Conference? Any thoughts?
Nov 27, 2007 07:52 AM
Jeanean Gendron
The Address Realty - Redding, CA
Specializing in Selling Unique Properties
Hello Mike. Thanks for the work. Your analysis is helpful. I am not surprised and it takes a few days for all the dust to settle. We have to wait for people like you to give us a clue as to what it all means. I have to say "thanks" for all the hard work you do and the clear and direct writing style you have. I am slowly, but over time learning and getting a base of understanding that will eventually help me help my clients. Good post! I like your style and how effective it is!
Nov 29, 2007 01:28 AM
Fran Gatti
RE/MAX Integrity - Medford, OR
Managing Principal Broker - RE/MAX Integrity

Mike,

Enjoyed the post and the comments.  I have an inner mortgage broker trying to get out of my real estate agent body.

Nov 29, 2007 02:30 PM
Jeff Belonger
Social Media - Infinity Home Mortgage Company, Inc - Cherry Hill, NJ
The FHA Expert - FHA Loans - FHA mortgages - USDA loans - VA Loans

Mike.... I didn't comment on part 1, but yes, the media usually tells us what we want to hear. I also love when someone digs a little deeper.

In regards to what Michael T. mentioned, about FHA secure....   great concept, but has anyone found an investor to actually buy these loans?   

Overall, good breakdown.

jeff belonger
Nov 30, 2007 02:35 AM
Mike Mueller
Tech and Social Media Consultant - Walnut Creek, CA

Tom - as always thanks. But remember, Portfolio doesn't mean they don't have issues.  They might have worse issues and are able to hide them better.

Mary - thanks.  I saw that but haven't had time to give it a proper gestational period.

Michael - with the new Federal Subprime Freeze Plan being talked about today - I have a whole new rant coming.

Jeanean - I'm an avid reader of other outside blogs (over 100 a day).  Sometimes the bloggers get it right, sometimes they are regurgitating media and political spins.  Thank you for your kind words.

Fran  - that is too funny. Hey I might be up in your area (Jeaneans too) very soon.  No time to stop and chat though.  Maybe just a wave.  We're thinking about doing an Iron Butt Rally (motorcycle ride over 1,000 miles in a day).  The north coast always beckons!

Jeff - Thank you. I find it hard to comment on a series post.  Should I wait?  should I comment on each part?


Nov 30, 2007 03:13 AM
Mike Mueller
Tech and Social Media Consultant - Walnut Creek, CA

Interestingly, this post (part one) was also picked up by Reuters 

 

Nov 30, 2007 03:18 AM