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Does the Price Always Reflect the Condition?

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Real Estate Agent with Brown Realty, 210-789-4216, TREC #0492321

Does the Price Always Reflect the Condition?
This past weekend I showed two homes that were priced the same, but the condition for each one was as different as night and day. Therefore, one could only conclude that the price does not always reflect the condition of the home. I was not surprised when my client remarked that she couldn’t believe that both of these homes had the same price, yet they were totally different in the condition and staging of the home, although both homes were very similar in size and located in the same neighborhood.

Empty HouseOne home was completely updated with new flooring, new kitchen cabinets and counter-tops, new appliances, new hardware, new light fixtures, remodeled bathrooms with updated faucets and hardware, bathroom tiles, and tiled flooring, freshly painted interior and exterior, and staged to look like a model home. Now, the other home was vacant, and lacked any updating or remodeling. In fact, it was truly “old school”, since it didn’t feature an open look at all, but was all boxed up with wall separating the living area from the kitchen area. The only reason by client was even considering it was because it had that half bath in a very functional area, and the nicer looking home didn’t have that half bath. It reminded me of an earlier post that I wrote last year, “Sellers- Today’s Buyers Are Looking for More Upgrades.  I am often amazed when I read in the MLS that “the price reflects the condition”, and once I have seen the home, I wander what planet that listing agent must have been on to come up with that statement.

It takes a special kind of buyer to take on a major project of completely remodeling a whole home from the roof to the foundation. It’s even a challenge for some buyers to change the color of the paint on the walls, let alone, making major changes with remodeling the kitchens, bathrooms, and all the flooring throughout the whole home. My advice to sellers would be to make cost effective updating to an older home that will give your home a chance to compete with the nicer looking homes in the neighborhood. If you must sell, “ As Is”, be sure the price reflects the actual condition of the home.   

If you are planning to buy or to sell in or around the San Antonio Market Area, contact Your Local San Antonio Real Estate Agent at 210-789-4216, or visit my website at Homes for Sale in San Antonio for more information on any subdivision in the area.

Comments(104)

Michael Blue
Home Smart Realty West - Encinitas, CA
REALTOR - 760-889-8877, Encinitas/Carlsbad

Jerry-  Sometimes a short sale agent will price a home under market value to generate offers to postpone the sale of the home at auction.  The lender with counter the price after an appraisal or BPO have been done.  This will give the agent an "approved Short Sale" price from the lender should the low ball offer fall out. 

But, some agents are not good a values or able to convince the seller their under improved home can stand up to the improved competition. 

Buyers agents I believe should preview the homes in advance and know what is what! My thoughts anyway.

Hey Jessica....This is Jerry Newman

Feb 21, 2012 03:16 AM
Jeanne Dufort
Coldwell Banker Lake Country - Madison, GA
Madison and Lake Oconee GA

One of the hardest things to convey to an asset manager is how a difference in condition should be reflected in listing price - especially when they are sitting on a few drive'by BPO valuations that by definition do not capture that...

Feb 21, 2012 04:32 AM
Eugene Adan
Adan Properties, Carlsbad, CA (760) 720-9710 - Carlsbad, CA
Carlsbad Real Estate

Jerry,

Having a buyer's agent that understands the area is what the serious buyer needs.  Pricing can work both ways.  A remodel or upgrade project is not for the faint of heart.

Feb 21, 2012 05:02 AM
Gene Riemenschneider
Home Point Real Estate - Brentwood, CA
Turning Houses into Homes

Actual Sales price is more accurate in terms of condition.  Very true and good post.

Feb 21, 2012 10:42 AM
Dorte Engel
RE/MAX Leading Edge - Bowie, MD
ABC - Annapolis, Bowie, Crofton & rest of Maryland

Dear Jerry,

Obviously not. Gotta kiss all the frogs before you find your prince.

Feb 21, 2012 10:49 AM
Kasey & John Boles
Jon Gosche Real Estate, LLC - BoiseMeridianRealEstate.com - Boise, ID
Boise & Meridian, ID Ada/Canyon/Gem/Boise Counties

 

Jerry, great post.  I didn't read all of the comments, but this comment: ’the price reflects the condition” - I think sometimes agents think if they say that people will just assume it is true.  Just like, "price to sell, will go fast!" (And it's been on the market 385 days...) If they say it maybe people will believe it! -Kasey

 

 

Feb 21, 2012 11:59 AM
Jerry Newman
Brown Realty, 210-789-4216, - San Antonio, TX
Texas REALTOR, San Antonio Military Relocation

Hi Gabe, It's okay to Dream, but sellers need to come back to reality if they are serious about selling their homes.

Yes, Lisa. I am sure many buyers look at all the features and amenities while they are viewing homes, before they make that final decision on the price.

Hi John, It was an Honor to Serve! Buyers do have to make some decisions, and that price will play a Big role in that decision.

Yes, Susanna, I know what you mean, since I have seen homes that had some nice looking photos in the MLS, but the actual appearance was not very desirable once you saw all the interior features.

Thanks, Lisa for the visit.

LOL, Brad. That TLC comment gets me every time too. Only a handyman would be thrilled to see those words.

Hi Pamela. I love how you put that it's a Price War and Beauty Contest. I actually didn't get a listing last month because I kept telling the seller his home had to be cleaned up and prepared for showings. He didn't like what I said, and hired another agent to list his home "AS IS". It's still on the market.

Hi Rachel. We have all been New Agents. I wouldn't worry to much about it since we can learn from our mistakes. In your case, you can learn from all those who have been in business before you.

Hi Kim, Give my BEST to your Son! I have a lot of respect for those Marines. Loved their Uniforms too.

Hi Frank. I certainly hope that FSBO followed your advice, and listed his home at a price to take his floor plan into consideration.

Hi Mary, The best bet is to not make those comments, especially when they are not TRUE.

Mike and Kate. I am glad it worked out for you and your sellers. Things can change after you list any home on the market. New homes can be added after your listing has been on the market for awhile too that make you want to review your pricing strategy.

Yes, Sylvie. Today's buyers are very savvy with the comps and prices.

Holly, I would tend to agree with you on those circumstances. Often times, the price is what the seller needs, and not what the homes will truly sell for.

Susanne, You bring up a valid point with those "low ball" offers. Perhaps, getting an appraisal ahead of time would be helpful to sellers, but many are not willing to spend the money to get one.

 

Feb 21, 2012 01:53 PM
Jerry Newman
Brown Realty, 210-789-4216, - San Antonio, TX
Texas REALTOR, San Antonio Military Relocation

Hi Allen, If could only get sellers to take our advice. I am sure the agents must have informed the sellers the importance of cleaning, and staging a home. Some like you say, " Just can't get pass their own mess".

Hi Sylvia. This sounds like those buyers that have money for a "VW", but want to buy that "Mercedes" for the same price. They probably just arrived from "Mars". LOL.

Thanks, Brenda and Ron. That is so TRUE!

Hi Leslie, Sellers need to visit with more Home Stagers like you to help them sell their homes faster. Thanks for Liking my Facebook Business page. I am adding you to my list for Stagers in this area.

Hi Susan. That is so True, if only the sellers would take their advice.

Yes, Marshall. You are right about a nice clean up job, and simple low cost things will help the sale too.

Thanks, Martin. Those "Just Sold" cards are a great idea. It gives all the neighbors a view of what their homes need to look like to sell at the same price or more.

Hi Jerry. Great to me another "Jerry". It was an honor to Serve. Not sure about an insurance claim, but I felt that price of the vacant home needed to be a lot less than the other home.

Mike, I am sure an appraisal for either of these homes would have been a great idea.

Mitch, Yes, That's exactly what I am talking about. Pricing the Homes right helps to sell them faster.

Rob, a Good Buyer's Agent is worth his weight in Gold. If buyers would only take our advice.

Yes, Michael. I couldn't have said it better myself. "Perception vs Reality".

Hi Michelle, It all sounds like a bunch of "Myths" to me. I have seen some very nice looking HUD Homes and REOs. It's not the norm, but they do come on the market every now and then. Now, Short Sales all depends on how serious that home owner is on cleaning up their homes to sell.

Hi Bill. A good Buyer's agent can be very valuable to his clients to help determine values on properties.

So True, Melanie. Several things have to be factored into the decision on making that final price before you List the home.

Marte, Both points are very possible. We can only make assumptions, but seeing is believing.

Kimo, Location was not a factor in this neighborhood. Both homes were on corner lots. Very similar except for the floor plans and all the updating in one of them.

Thanks, Michael. You have some valid points here. Who is Jessica???

Jeanne, I have done those drive by BPO's and your are right about the asset mangers not knowing the true value since the interior condition was not disclosed.

Adan. Most buyers are not very willing to take on these major renovation projects, even when I let them know about that 203K Rehab Loan.

Yes, Gene. That's exactly the point I want to make her in this post. Price needs to reflect the condition.

Dorte. That's a Good One! Finding Prince Charming is not always easy.

Kasey, It made me think too, since I have been guilty of using those words of "Price to Sell". One would have to change their statements when the home doesn't sell in a reasonable amount of time.

 

 

 

Feb 21, 2012 02:39 PM
Bob Miller
Keller Williams Cornerstone Realty - Ocala, FL
The Ocala Dream Team

Hi Jerry, I never consider active list price as reflective of condition.  Sellers can ask anything.  Onlyon closed sales "might" price reflect condition.  There are too many other issues, layout, buyer emotion, location, etc.

Feb 21, 2012 07:13 PM
Arthur Wainio
HomeSmart - Scottsdale, AZ
CDPE, CIAS

A good indicator is when the agent doesn't post any interior pics or better yet they just used the ones from a listing from a couple years back.  That's always fun to find out.

Feb 22, 2012 12:28 AM
Andrew Mooers | 207.532.6573
MOOERS REALTY - Houlton, ME
Northern Maine Real Estate-Aroostook County Broker

We don't list over priced properties because expectation are all wrong, time is wasted.

Feb 22, 2012 05:08 AM
Carla Freund
Keller Williams Preferred Realty - Raleigh, NC
NC Real Estate Transition & Relocation 919-602-848

I concur with you - Price doesn't always reflect the condition. Not everyone gets it unless perhaps they're the buyer.

Feb 23, 2012 03:22 AM
Jerry Newman
Brown Realty, 210-789-4216, - San Antonio, TX
Texas REALTOR, San Antonio Military Relocation

Bob, That's a good point. The seller's price doesn't normally reflect the condition.

Feb 26, 2012 10:39 AM
Jerry Newman
Brown Realty, 210-789-4216, - San Antonio, TX
Texas REALTOR, San Antonio Military Relocation

Yes, Arthur. Those photos will tell the whole story. The lack of photos may be a good indicator that the price does not reflect the condition.

Feb 26, 2012 10:40 AM
Jerry Newman
Brown Realty, 210-789-4216, - San Antonio, TX
Texas REALTOR, San Antonio Military Relocation

Hi Andy. That;s the Best Solution for Listing homes.

Feb 26, 2012 10:41 AM
Jerry Newman
Brown Realty, 210-789-4216, - San Antonio, TX
Texas REALTOR, San Antonio Military Relocation

Yes, Carla. Many buyers will start to take away from that Listing price after they see the actual condition of the property.

Feb 26, 2012 10:43 AM
Judy Orr
HomeSmart - Scottsdale, AZ
Scottsdale AZ and surrounding towns

I'm late to this one but I have to make a comment.  Although an appraiser will only give a certain amount of money towards that 1/2 bath, it might be worth more to a buyer.  It might be difficult to add one to the other house, or it could be very costly, thus negating the nice features the other home offered.

If the buyer liked the area and needed that extra bathroom, then something has to give - either the buyer purchases the updated home without the extra bath or hopefully gets a decent deal on the home that needs work but has an extra powder room.  

I wrote a similar post recently but both homes were very close in size, style and amenities - just updating/cleaning differences.  

Feb 27, 2012 12:43 AM
Jerry Newman
Brown Realty, 210-789-4216, - San Antonio, TX
Texas REALTOR, San Antonio Military Relocation

Thanks, Judy. Buyers do need to weigh all their needs when it comes to finalizing that price. A half bath can make a big difference to some buyers, and it may not be a concern for others. If every home on the market were updated and cleaned, then the price wouldn't always be a concern for these buyers.

Mar 04, 2012 07:45 AM
Matt Robinson
Professional Investors Guild - Pensacola, FL
www.professionalinvestorsguild.com

Of course price doesn't always reflect condition, and it also doesn't always reflect area or value for that matter.  People stick the craziest prices on homes sometimes, with absolutely no real rationale for it...and their Realtors let them.  I love it when people want to tell me what their house is worth based on the house that is "listed" down the street.  I always let them know that until it sells, the price means nothing.  I can ASK a million bucks for a mobile home in the country...but what does that tell anyone about the value.  NADA.

Nov 07, 2012 02:53 AM
Jerry Newman
Brown Realty, 210-789-4216, - San Antonio, TX
Texas REALTOR, San Antonio Military Relocation

Hi Matt. You are right on the money here. Price doesn't always reflect the condition alright. I just wished those listing agents would give better remarks and descriptions on those homes. It would save everyone a lot of time.

Nov 07, 2012 07:23 AM