Home flippers buy dilapidated houses, fix them up, then sell them again as quickly as possible with the intention of making a tidy profit.  Flipped houses look shiny and new inside, but what's going on underneath all the new drywall, carpet, and paint?  Very few home buyers seem to trust flippers, and with the cheesy 'repairs' or 'cover-ups' I've seen over the years, it's easy to understand why.  Most of the quick and dirty home flippers take the same shortcuts when flipping houses; I've seen so many of them done the same way that I'm going to tell you all about the flipped house you just looked at without even knowing the address.

Interior

The interior of the home looks great.  The kitchen has all new or re-painted cabinets, stainless steel appliances, granite counter tops, and a tiled floor.  The first floor bathroom has been completely re-done, and a second floor bathroom was recently added, or possibly a basement bathroom.  They look great.  All new carpet, paint, light fixtures, outlets, and switches throughout the house.  Possibly all new windows as well.

Vanity combo on sale at LowesWhen looking at flipped houses, you might notice poorly designed kitchens (ie - cabinet doors / drawers that are blocked by other cabinets), nail holes that aren't filled, appliances installed without an outlet to plug them in to, and loose / unsecured countertops or base cabinets.  Bathrooms will often have vanity cabinets that are way too small for the space because the flipper bought the 'special buy' vanity, top, and faucet combo on sale at whatever home improvement store was close.

The handrails are new, but they might come right out of the wall if you pull on them.  I've found a few handrails at flipped houses that were only attached to drywall.

Loose handrail

Electrical

There is a brand new circuit breaker panel installed in the basement, which replaced the old 60-amp fuse panel.  The new panel has a state electrical inspection sticker on it, and everything looks great.  I don't find many electrical problems on flipped houses.  Even the worst home flippers usually know better than to mess with the electrical; they don't want their houses to burn down.

Heating

The home has an old, unsafe heating system at the end of it's life expectancy.  The flipper has documentation from 'their guy', some heating contractor that you've never heard of, saying the heating system is safe.  You should be suspicious.  I've found heating safety check forms filled out that weren't worth the paper they were written on.  I've found furnaces and boilers creating high levels of carbon monoxide that the heating contractors said were fine.  In one particular case, the home flipper claimed my equipment was faulty; we argued for a while, and eventually the flipper had the gas company come out to do their own test.  The gas company promptly red-tagged the heating plant and shut it down.

Another possibility is that the heating system was completely replaced.  If so, great, but check the furnace's blower fan for drywall dust.  There's a good chance that the flipper had the blower fan running while they were doing their drywall sanding, and the interior of the furnace is completely caked in drywall dust.  The photo below shows a close-up view of a furnace's blower fan blades covered in a thick layer of drywall dust.

Blower fan caked with drywall dust

If the home was originally heated with a boiler, the home flipper most likely pulled out all of the pipes and radiators and converted the system to forced air; this is usually far less expensive than repairing or replacing the existing system.

Air Conditioning

If the house is being sold during the winter, the AC is very old and may not be functional.  If the house is being sold during the summer, the AC is brand new and keeps the house very comfortable.  I don't find much in-between those two extremes.

Structure

This is the item that home buyers are most concerned about, especially on flipped house, but I'm afraid I can't shed any light on this one.  Despite what home buyers expect, I don't find structural problems on flipped houses any more than I do with other houses.

Plumbing

The water distribution pipes will either be in acceptable condition or they'll all have recently been replaced; no issues there.  There will be major problems with the drains though; nobody has lived in the house yet, so nobody knows about the leaks and clogged drains.  The old steel drain lines are often clogged at the kitchen sink, and possibly at other locations.

Clogged drain at kitchen sink

New plumbing fixtures often leak when they're filled with water and then drained; it's not unusual to find several leaking drains at flipped houses.

Leaking drain at kitchen sink

 

Sometimes we'll find floor drains, basement showers, or even basement sinks that back up with water when the plumbing fixtures at the upper levels are filled and then drained.  That's exactly what was happening with this new basement bathroom sink at a flipped house in New Hope.

Tiled shower floors are also notorious leakers at flipped houses; I'd estimate that half of them leak.  I remember inspecting one house in Minneapolis about two years ago where both of the tiled shower floors leaked like crazy.  The buyers decided they didn't want the house before I was even finished with my inspection.

Ceiling stain from leaking shower

Roofs

The shingles on the roof are in bad shape.  You'll find patched sections of shingles or shingles that are badly deteriorated and at the end of their life expectancy.   Replacing the roof covering is an expensive project, but it won't make the house sell for any more money, so flippers leave the roof alone if it's not leaking.  I can't say I blame them.

Bad Shingles

Insulation

The insulation in the attic hasn't been touched for a long time - it might even be original, and it will need improvement.  Flippers don't get any return on their investment for new insulation, so don't expect anything to be done here.

Poorly insulated knee wall

Exterior

Shoddy workmanship abounds at the exterior.  The original wood windows were replaced with vinyl inserts, but the old wood at the exterior is still rotting away and has been freshly painted, or someone did a quick and dirty job of wrapping the windows with aluminum and left a lot of rotted wood still exposed.

Rotted wood at windows

The basement windows have been replaced with whatever size window was close,  and the flipper used clear pine or plywood to make up the difference in size.  This is sloppy workmanship, at best.

Unpainted wood at basement window

Exposed plywood edges at basement window

Some of the siding repairs may even be comical; I actually found a hole in the siding repaired with a coffee can lid at a recent flipped home inspection.

Coffee can lid for siding

There is a thin layer of new wood chips surrounding the house, but nothing has been done to correct improperly pitched soils around the house that can lead to a wet basement.  You'll want to re-grade right away.

The chimney has a lot of missing mortar and cracks in the crown.  You'll need to hire someone to repair the chimney to help prevent the deterioration from getting worse.

Chimney with deteriorated mortar

Conclusion

Was I close?  If you just finished looking at a flipped house and you didn't find any of these issues, buy the house! take a closer look.  These are the defects that I often find at flipped houses, but keep in mind, these are broad generalizations.  Some flipped houses aren't in nearly this good of shape, while others are pristine.  I've worked with plenty of home flippers who do high quality construction work, including a friend, Andy Blessing.  His company occasionally flips houses, and I'd be perfectly happy to buy any house he flipped because he does honest, high quality work.  There are plenty of good contractors who do excellent work, but it's the rest of 'em that give home flippers a bad name.

If you're buying a flipped house, the items you should pay the most attention to should be the exterior, roof, insulation, and drains.  Individual results will vary.

Reuben Saltzman, Structure Tech Home Inspections

        

 
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85 Comments on I'll Tell You What's Wrong With That Flipped House Without Even Looking At It

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22
2012
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Wow...very interesting! Seems like something people would definitely like to know when buyin these "shiny, new, flipped houses! Great post!

9:27am • #66
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What always amazes me are the flipped houses where the corners of trim or counters don't meet properly. If what they're showing us isn't good, I can only imagine what they're NOT showing us, what's behind the walls. I caution my clients about these every time.

 

10:07am • #67

Great post.  Especially liked the coffe can lid siding, thought it was very creative.  There are a lot of creative folks - artists - living in my area and there have been many jokes about what can be found in homes (like curtain rods put up with paperclips).  I did not realise drains had the problems you said, usually the flipped places state new this/that, new plumbing . . .  One more thing to be on the lookout for.

And, let's not forget the flippers who get in over their little ol' heads.  Have seen some seriously aweful reconfigurations begun in houses foreclosing yet again.  One guy even poured a partial concrete slab over a rotting wood floor so he could install a new boiler and water heater.  Sigh.  And a thin slab, to boot!  And the electric in the place was a mess and a hodge podge.

Thanks for the great photos and information.

10:33am • #68

Thank you Thank You Thank you, for posting stuff like this up.

Most of what you posted is common sense for anyone whom has restored or done work on their own home, but how many Realtor have done this, Not many, SO ITS GREAT that you posted this.

One silly trick I do when looking at a flippers house is to pull on the hand railings, you would be surprised how many times they come right out.

I am very glad that you are sharing this with everyone.

 

Michael

10:37am • #69
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Great blog with great pictures!  If you have been in the business more than 6 months, you have seen at least 1 of these homes.  I do my best to steer 1st time buyers away from one of these!

11:50am • #70
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There's a bank owned home in my neighborhood that the bank decided to 'fix up'. It was in very bad shape, severe structural issues, septic and roofing issues. So they replaced some doors, put in a new kitchen, flooring and paint and marked up the price. Looks good...but they never addressed the major issues. Buyer beware! As is homes can be scary!

12:14pm • #71
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99% of the time I can detect a home that has been flipped. The profit margin is so low today that most are cutting every penny they can and it is reflected in the work. Very few home are done correctly.

1:33pm • #72
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Always great posts!  I usually find more concerns with home handy men than flipper but maybe that's because there are more of them.

8:27pm • #73

You can usually see the quality of someones work as soon as you open the door.  

9:27pm • #74
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2012
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I have Sellers do a home inspection up front before I list their  homes so I avoid these issues as surprises later.

3:22am • #75
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This is helpful information! There are a lot of fixed up flipped homes in Flagstaff, and I didn't know that so many had so many leaks and other issues. This was very informative!

5:44am • #76
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Reuben - I have three words for a buyer... inspect, inspect, inspect!

Some people do a great job with flips and really have integrity but, it is the buyer's responsibility to do their homework!

9:10am • #77
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Hi James, I can walk into a flipped house and almost "smell it"!  It is so obvious and then you wonder what they covered up!

3:45pm • #78
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24
2012
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I've been looking to purchase a flipped multi-family building for a few months now and found this to be a very helpful starting point for evaluating them!

5:50am • #79
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26
2012

While i am appauled that all rehab companies have been bunched/lumped into this article, this problem, thought and attitude towards those of us that flip houses is what made me form our business, it's business model and the principles that guide us through our day to day business and the goals we pursue.

The Dry Moon Group Inc., rehabs single and multi-family properties and would dare anyone to compare our properties to anyone or any other company anywhere. Our company leaves no stone unturned and leave nothing to chance when we rehab a property absolutely every detail regardless of importance or size has been given the attention it needs and deserves period. We treat every property the same whether it is a 50K or a million dollar property it doesn't matter it get's first class treatment! And we give a 100% guarantee on every home we sell and its not one that is sold it is our own if it breaks within 3 years of buying your home from us we fix it at our expense even the windows throw a rock through it not a problem our window company will fix it at their cost that's The Dry Moon Groups way!

I have been in the construction business for 34yrs (actually all of my life and not to tell my age but i am 50yrs old and one of the best carpenters in the business) and have met many people in my time that really does care when they remodel a house for resale. I encourage you to think of those of us that do put quality into every house to work on because we know and want our houses to become homes where people raise families have thanksgivings and christmas and everything in between for many years and can say i bought this house from The Dry Moon Group Inc, with pride.

My last thought i am tired of hearing its the American way. The American way to is to make a living and offer products second to none. And making a fair living isn't just American it's called being human and having needs, wants and dreams that is not American it's all people it is one thing we all have in common. I gave six years of my life and time to the USA it is called the Army so the American way can be pursued so if there is something wrong with that then each of us can look in our own mirror and see the American way!

Jeffrey Sampson

President

The Dry Moon Group Inc

 

Jeff Sampson
8:37am • #80
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Thanks for all responses!

Donald (#61) - I think the reason some people get a little pickier when it comes to flippers is that there is often the impression that the house was completely rehabbed, so defects that are found are often more surpising than those found in traditional owner-occupant homes.

There is no question that I found a lot more goofy DIY repairs / improvements than on flipped houses, but those are never as surpising to buyers.

Brenda & Ron (#67) - how frustrating. It's stories exactly like yours that make home flippers want to take shortcuts.

Michael (#71) - you're not kidding about the handrails.  

Jeff (#83) - I didn't lump all flippers (or 'rehab companies') in to this category; please read the conclusion. I applaud companies that do high quality work, and I make a point of letting my clients know about good workmanship when I see it.

It sounds like you take pride in your work, and I'm glad to hear it.

6:28pm • #81
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18
2012
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Reuben. You write the best posts so I will leave it up to you to pen another one. Just insert "Freddie Mac" &  "Fannie Mae" in place of "flip", "flipped, & "flippers" 

5:23pm • #82
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Good post. Anyone that will not pay for a home inspection is crazy.

2:20pm • #84
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I'm a rehabber, and unfortunately I have to combat these preconceived notions people have about "flipped" houses (as if it's a dirty word) thanks to many other flippers who do a poor job like you described.  The biggest problems inexperience flippers make is paying too much for the house.  It's hard to find good deals, and rather than go the extra effort in their marketing to find deals that really make financial sense, they just take the first foreclosure that comes along.  Because they didn't buy right, the deal starts out too skinny, so they have to cut corners in order to save their miniscule profit.  And then to make matters worse, after they renovate it poorly, they also price it based on how much they want to make, not what it's worth...which is unbelievably ignorant.  And so, the house often sits on the market for months while their tiny profit turns into a loss as they pay holding costs.  It's not a business for the flippant (pun intended), and can lead to huge losses if you don't know what you're doing.

11:07am • #85

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