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I just got word from one of the mortgage guys who sends me regular e-mail that FHA is leaving their loan limits unchanged.  This means that the highest they'll go is $362,750 (in the DC Metro area where I work). Sure there are condos, townhomes and even some single family homes out there in that price range but the SFHs will either be fixer uppers, small or in neighborhoods that never caught the wave of price appreciation (or as much).

I thought FHA was out there to help moderate income folks who wanted to get a little piece of the American Dream.  I guess they're thinking prices are going to either stagnate or decline -- or their action will cause prices to stagnate or decline. 

Now, those with moderate incomes will be subject to the conforming rules ($417,000, which is not much better) and be subject to higher interest rates.

Well, that's the government fo ya! 

 

13 Comments on Can someone show FHA the way to the Clue Train?

GNMA doesn't want to follow Freddie on loan losses. I agree FHA needs to get on the bandwagon..but it's not going to happen any time soon. They already have added FHA secure....first big change in awhile.... let's face it ..in many areas prices are too high and they need to come down through market action...in many cases foreclosures of those who had no business getting a house in the first place and had no skin in the game...and second..those looking to purchase are looking to find a bottom...why buy if the market is still tanking? since 100% loans are pretty much gone... people having to come up with the down payment for first time buyers is tough. It's back to basic agency loans and first timers are going to have to come to the table with CASH...... biggest hurdle to homeownership is the down payment!

i have been told by many wholesale and bank shops that FHA is NOT the new subprime..... i think it will stay ugly for awhile longer....THEN the are going to be some nice buys!

good post....wish there was better news out there on the fHA front! 

 

11/30/2007 06:26 PM by John Barry Seattle Washington Home Loans ( Home Loans)


Look how long it took the VA to raise their limits.  We just have to sit tight and let the banks and mortgage companies straighten out the mess they created before they are going to make very many changes.  The first positive sign is the willingness to work with some homeowners to "freeze" their lower interest rates.

11/30/2007 07:02 PM by Cindy Jones-Northern Virginia Real Estate & Military Relocation Services (RE/MAX Allegiance #1 RE/MAX Company in the World)


You took the words right out of my mouth!  I was a bit surprised as well.  If there were really thinking they would have "regional limits".  But think of THAT nightmare!

11/30/2007 08:55 PM by James Downing - REALTORĀ® - Washington DC Real Estate (Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage)


Ken baby,

The House has sent legislation over to the Senate to "fix" this problem and to allow FHA to help bail out some folks from foreclosure. Trouble is some Republicans in the Senate don't want to upset the lobbiest gravy train they are on, so they are stalling it from coming up for vote, even though it passed in committee. Liz Dole is heading the effort.

It's the old story. The House (of the people) and the Senate (of the corporations) can't come to an agreement on legislation.

Answer - VOTE INDEPENDANT! Throw the incumbent bums out! Can you say oligarchy or plutocracy? If we don't have change in Washington that's what we'll have. Say goodbye to democracy.

Chuck

11/30/2007 09:37 PM by Charles Kraus - Greater Annapolis MD Area (RE/MAX Advantage)


The FHA decision also left me wondering what they were thinking.  FHA and VA  have really improved their programs from what they used to be years ago (e.g. Streamline-K, etc.).  I really thought that they would be leading the charge to stay with the times.  Fact: the market drove prices up, up, up over the last few yesrs and even though prices have come down, they are nowhere near where they were and I don't believe that they will drop that far. . .  this decision is a big disappointment.

11/30/2007 10:53 PM by Teri Deane--Central Maryland Realtor, ABR, WHC--Howard County Real Estate (RE/MAX 100)


Chuck -  I believe you may be correct.  I forgot that the NAR recently sent out a call to action to encourage our Senators to get with the program. I believe it's more to help people already in trouble within the current (low) loan limits (FHA Secure).  My beef is with the loan limits. $362,750 doesn't get you much in this area.

 Teri -- If prices decreased to the point that FHA seems to want them to go we'd wouldn't go into a recession we'd be in a full blown depression.

12/01/2007 01:31 PM by Ken Montville -- the MD Suburbs of DC (RE/MAX Advantage Realty)


Ken: If you think the FHA limits don't do much around D.C., imagine being in California where the median home price is in the upper 6 digits. FHA is merely trying to help low to moderate income borrowers, not the middle to middle-upper class. It is really intended on looking at first time homebuyers and helping them get into houses as well.

12/02/2007 11:23 AM by Jeff Judge, Baltimore's FHA/VA Purchase, Streamline, and Reverse Mortgage Expert (Eagle Nationwide Mortgage)


Jeff -  I'm with you and I feel for the folks in California trying to buy homes.  That's why I'm surprised they didn't raise their limits even a little.  As I mentioned in the Blog posting, they must really think there will be a steep decline in prices or they are trying to create a steep decline in prices. 

I have come to the conclusion that the low income strata has been priced out of the market.  What's done is done.  Is it reasonable to cause prices to slide back artificially just because you want to help out low income folks?  There are still a lot of moderate income first time home buyers that could use the FHA backed loans to purchase their first home. 

Hey it's a full doc, verified loan. Why not raise the limits to provide some interest rate and down payment relief. Otherwise, we'll continue to have huge amounts of inventory.  Yes, prices will start to decline even more.  People who bought 7-10 years (or longer) ago will be fine.  People who bought within the last 5-7 years will suffer the most.

12/02/2007 02:09 PM by Ken Montville -- the MD Suburbs of DC (RE/MAX Advantage Realty)


Come on these government people don't need loans they have cash, so why change it! They just don't get it and even makes it hard for some of these people that want to refinance some of these loans.

12/05/2007 12:29 AM by Todd Clark (Realtor), GRI (Your Washington Co. Real Estate Expert) (Kastings & Associates)


Ken, Not sure what mortgage guy that you use, but this is far from the truth. I have written several blogs on this. It was first passed in 2006. And then went to the house this summer and was passed. We new they were going to move forward, but just when and how. It was just passed by the Senate and now goes back to the house for final figures. if you talk to anyone at HUD and follow the reports the last 3 months, they were moving forward, but at a snails pace. Just a FYI... I do loans in Maryland also and I know my FHA very well. Overall, these loan changes should take place in late January, if not, sooner. Thanks, jeff

12/18/2007 03:15 AM by Jeff Belonger


Not sure why my name is not highlighted.... that's stranger

12/18/2007 03:16 AM by Jeff Belonger


Hey, Jeff

 Thanks for the comment and thanks for the offer.  I actually had to do a search for you and when your profile popped up there was a "Hidden From View"  note next to your name.  I have no clue as to what that's about.

12/18/2007 06:36 AM by Ken Montville -- the MD Suburbs of DC (RE/MAX Advantage Realty)


Ken, Maybe bring this up to the AR guys, because I would be curious why my name isn't linked. But in regards to my comment, I am dead serious. If lender has been following what has been going on in the last 6 months, they would know that this was never shot down, but dragged out only because of the type of market that we are in... and because the politicians want to look good for the elections. So they are just being careful on all accounts. But in reality, they know it's the right move. Here is what I wrote about... http://activerain.com/blogsview/307872/FHA-reform-bill-gets I hope you don't mind.... Jeff

12/19/2007 01:36 AM by Jeff Belonger


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