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I spoke to a good friend of mine the other day.  Mike and I each started in the business more than two decades ago.  Mike pursued a career as a loan originator while I always preferred the research oriented work found within title companies.  Mike has an extraordinary knowledge of lending guidelines and practices.  He's been around long enough to know everything and everyone.  During the course of our catch up session, I decided to ask Mike to join Active Rain.  The guy would make a wonderful addition to the community.

His answer was startling.

Mike, who like me is in his mid-forties, doesn't feel that internet marketing is a worthwhile activity.  In fact, he's using the same strategies to develop new business that we both used in 1985.  Now ... I'm extremely happy that my friend is successful, but I was unable to conceal my shock at his response.  Like you, I'm a great believer in social networking as a glimpse of the future.  I see a need to embrace the practices that worked in the past, but ... hey ... it's a new day and a new age. 

I sent Mike an invitation to join this network and I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens.


 The conversation with my old friend got me to thinking about the interaction between technology and the housing crises that we now face.  Keep in mind that I consider foreclosure statistics to be an accurate benchmark of fraudulent activity within housing markets.  Mortgage fraud, to my way of thinking, is the diabolical and cynical cousin of predatory lending.  The two forms of fraud share more practical attributes than not.  I've seen graphs representing foreclosure activity from the 1950's through the mid 1990's.  The line is essentially flat with occasional spikes corresponding to negative economic factors.  In other words, prior to 1995, or so, the foreclosure rate in this country was a statistical anomaly.  From that time forward, foreclosure numbers have accelerated rapidly and steadily.

The application of technology to the loan origination process has obviously increased efficiencies, but there have been unintended consequences as well.  We typically think of the mid-1990's as the advent of sub-prime lending and its associated problems, but it also marks the introduction of extreme automation by the lending industry.  Processing activities, in many cases, have since been removed to regional or national centers where the consumer is reduced to a faceless, ambiguous name on a computer screen.  In the past, loan originators conducted business in the same communities in which they lived.  There was an organic relationship between lender and borrower.  There was a first hand familiarity with the condition and value of the homes being sold or refinanced.  The success of a lending institution was, in large part, decided by referrals from past customers who were essentially neighbors.  We cannot negate the fact that fraud flourishes when business is transacted from a distance.  Many of the “tell-tale” indicators of mortgage fraud are extremely subtle and require direct observation. There is no substitute for human contact in matters of fraud prevention.

The title and mortgage lending industries are poised to suffer the greatest losses resulting from fraudulent activity in housing markets.  Inexplicably, there’s been little initiative to solve the problem beyond the scope of technology that’s failed in the past.  The two industries subscribe to a misguided belief that mortgage fraud is containable by profiling high risk individuals and properties based on information aggregated in databases.  While the practice has an overall beneficial effect on loan quality, it ignores the broad reach of human cunning and is therefore counter intuitive as a stand alone approach.  A mathematical algorithm is no match for the human intellect.  The purely technological approach to mortgage fraud mitigation didn’t work in 2006, or 2007, and it won’t work in 2008.  The scenario  is  remarkably reminiscent of the story of the proverbial fly crashing repeatedly into a pane of glass.

Again, I am the greatest  advocate of technology, particularly in matters of marketing and transaction management.  Still, I can't help but feel that automation has actively contributed to the convoluted mess confronted by our industry at this time.

What do you think?

 

18 Comments on A Technological Conundrum

Your case is most convincing.  I would venture to say that the effect technology has had on the lending industry is spilling over into real estate agencies as well.  We have a listing in our market that is represented by a cut-rate company that put the listing on the MLS and is supposed to set up showings all by phone and internet.  I tried to get my clients an apt. to view this home and to no avail.  I couldn't get the agent to call me back and the home has been on the market for at least 6 months.  In this case, technology has not enabled the client to get better service.  The commission savings is hardly worth it if you the seller is not going to sell their home.

 

11/30/2007 07:50 PM by Fran Gatti - Realtor® Crescent City CA Real Estate (RE/MAX Coastal Redwoods)


ED- 

Technology is a double edged sword. Just like the rose has its thorns. There are many things that are great and good; but in the wrong hands can and do create problems. I will agree that our current technology is just incredible.

11/30/2007 07:53 PM by Mott Kornicki • Real Estate In Miami (SIB REALTY, LLC)


I completely agree with you. There's no doubt technology is a wonderful thing. When you take that technology though and use it where it shouldn't be used, well that's where the problem comes in. Do you ever wonder why in our Industry, we have things like "Scanners and White Out"? One particular lender, who is no longer around, had what they called an "ART DEPARTMENT"! Wonder what kind of Technology they were using? Absolutely crazy.

11/30/2007 08:02 PM by Dawn Rodriguez/HomeRun Title/ Title Insurance Company (HomeRun Title)


Hi Fran

I've never considered the negative implications as spilling over to your business.  Thanks for sharing your thoughts. 

11/30/2007 08:03 PM by Ed Rybczynski (Rybczynski Consulting)


Mott

As always, you comment articulately and sagely.  I hope that all is well in Florida. 

11/30/2007 08:06 PM by Ed Rybczynski (Rybczynski Consulting)


Ed,

Technology is has created new frontiers in our personal, as well as our business lives.  I think technology has made it easier for unscrupulous people to take advantage of a situation.  Technology did not cause mortgage fraud,  criminally-active people caused mortgage fraud. 

11/30/2007 08:11 PM by Harold Watts' Palm Springs Real Estate Blog (Scott Lyle Realtors)


Dawn

I'd love to know more about a department within a lender's office named the "art department."  That says so much about the firms internal cultural. 

11/30/2007 08:14 PM by Ed Rybczynski (Rybczynski Consulting)


Harold

Undeniably, human motive is the root of the problem.  I was just trying to loosely describe the intersection of technology with greed in housing markets.  Thanks for commenting.

11/30/2007 08:18 PM by Ed Rybczynski (Rybczynski Consulting)


Ed, I am recommending this for a feature. Very good. Of course I love technology and social networks and I'm glad your friend is successful without all of it and yes agents here that don't use it are also successful.

Now, I agree totally with your summation of the use of technology for writing and securing loans and lets not forget about the companies you mentioned months ago farming out their title research over seas.

I too agree in the organic relationship between buyers, and their lenders. It is a win-win when everyone in the transaction is a team. The transactions go smooth, contingencies are met, loans are funded on time.

Lately here, I have been seeing some of the big companies NOT being able to use whoever they wanted to appraise the houses, but being required to go down a list and pick the next in line. Fine...............

But, I have also seen that if an appraiser is in an area NOT in Ann Arbor...........then they pull up solds near the home, nothing wrong with that, but not knowing the school lines, may choose a home in a less desirable area to comp that home too. So that has caused it's own set of problems.

Finally, I don't know the answer except for us Realtors to insist our buyers use local lenders and title companies, not owned by them.

Uggh............this should have been a post. Sorry I got carried away.

 

12/01/2007 07:26 AM by Missy Caulk-Ann Arbor- Realtor(R)- Ann Arbor Real Estate (Keller Williams-Ann Arbor)


Missy

I'm glad that you feel the way that I do about this issue.  I'm not sure that there are answers.  I'm just trying to explore as many angles as possible. 

Thank You!

12/01/2007 07:47 AM by Ed Rybczynski (Rybczynski Consulting)


Ed,

I don't really know much about the technology that's being used in the different industries attached to Real Estate. I do know that human nature is human nature, which translates to those who will find ways to abuse whatever tools are available in order to benefit themselves. It's a shame, but it's reality. It's a good thing we have people like yourself out there helping to keep watch. Great post, as usual, Ed. Thanks

12/01/2007 08:19 AM by Andrew Trevino Wilkes-Barre Homes For Sale (TradeMark Realtors Group)


Andrew

Thank you for commenting and for the very kind words. 

12/01/2007 09:38 AM by Ed Rybczynski (Rybczynski Consulting)


Ed,

I have nothing to add but agree the "intent and results" of an Arm's Length transaction and a "Miles Away" Length transaction can often differ.  :)

12/01/2007 11:42 AM by Michael Tarabotto (Certified Appraiser) Santa Clarita, San Fernando, Westside (California Appraisal Solutions Corp.)


Michael

I can't imagine anyone attempting to automate property valuation for the purpose of making home loans. 

It has to be a disaster waiting to happen. 

12/01/2007 04:27 PM by Ed Rybczynski (Rybczynski Consulting)


I'm going to disagree.  I don't believe that technology contributed to the mortgage crisis or foreclosures. 

The algorithms that permitted a prospective buyer with a good credit score to qualify for a loan through the Fannie Mae Desk Top Underwriter with a 63 front ratio is not the fault of technology.  It's the fault of the humans at Fannie Mae that said, sure, we'll buy a loan with a 63 front ratio if the credit scores are high enough.  That's insane.  Unless a person is independently wealthy, they shouldn't be committing 63% of their gross income to a mortgage payment.  That's a recipe for foreclosure. 

Technology is simply a tool of human beings.  Folks are folks.  Folks who are honest are going to use technology for efficiencies.  Folks who are not honest are going to use technology to get an edge, to obscure, to obfuscate and to cheat. 

Folks don't change with technology and technology doesn't change folks.  Most folks are honest because they have an honest and ethical upbringing and lead that life.  Others do not break the rules or the laws because they are afraid of getting caught.  If the second group thinks that they can use technology to get an edge, they were already unethical and dishonest.  

I'm the same cantankerous old goat I was before I got my first computer. 

 

 

12/01/2007 06:25 PM by Lenn Harley Homefinders.com MD & VA Real Estate


Lenn

Cantankerous or not, I still think that you and I are in agreement.  It's my opinion that automated loan processing makes it easier for people to cheat if that is their intent.  I believe that people who would cheat will find a way around technology. 

See what I'm saying, my opinion seems to coincide with yours. 

12/01/2007 06:34 PM by Ed Rybczynski (Rybczynski Consulting)


Seems to me that it isn't the automatic loan processing that makes it easier for folks to cheat.  It's the coding that permits the automatic underwriting to approve a loan that shouldn't be approved and it was a human that made that decision. 

I believe the the greed of the lending institutions made the decision to accept as approved loans that shouldn't have been approved. 

I qualify all of my buyers.  I say, O.K. Joe and Mary, you should be looking in a $450K range.  They talk to a lender who puts them through automatic underwriting and they call me and say, Lenn, lets to up to $550K.  The lender says it's O.K. 

That's a greedy lender, not the programming of the automatic underwriter. 

Wait.  I suppose we're saying the same thing.  It's late.  I'm through thinking for the day.

12/01/2007 06:56 PM by Lenn Harley Homefinders.com MD & VA Real Estate


Have a good night, Lenn

As much as I enjoy a spirited debate, it simply won't work this time as I happen to agree with you completely.  I do feel that automation played something of a role in the current crises by making it easier for cheaters to cheat.

At the very least, technology did nothing to deter fraud as we are told it does.

12/01/2007 09:23 PM by Ed Rybczynski (Rybczynski Consulting)


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