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Recently here in Orlando there has been a number of infomercials for USHOMEAUCTION.com their claim to fame is that they will help you buy a foreclosed home at reduced prices.  Skeptical of this infomercial I started to do some preliminary digging on this company and here is what I have found out as of today.

Excerpts taken from

Home Foreclosures Sold at Auction, 2000 Buyers Bid on the American Dream

November 11, 2007
by Binyamin Appelbaum | Boston Globe

 

USHomeAuction.com is a subsidiary of LandAuction.com which is held by NRP Holding Company, Inc. Real Estate Disposition was founded in 1990, but before this year the business had been dormant for a decade.There was little need for its services during the real estate boom.

The company’s founders, Jeffrey Frieden and Robert Friedman, turned instead to selling undeveloped land. A company they founded, National Recreational Properties Inc., bought large numbers of lots in the Sun Belt, then marketed the properties in infomercials often featuring “CHiPs” star Erik Estrada.

So what does this mean for Realtors and the customers we serve and protect.  I've had a few calls from buyers wanting to know info on buying foreclosures at the same prices that these guys were advertising.  My response is, well I am not sure that this is the way you want to go in purchasing a home. Unless you know what you are doing most buyers don't know what they're getting into when they purchase at events like these. Here's what happens in this and similar events around the country:

 

Foreclosure Auction Hynes Memorial Convention Center Boston
300 foreclosed properties were up for auction at the Hynes Memorial Convention Center in Boston.

The firm is privately held and does not disclose its profits, but the company collects a 5 percent premium on each winning bid, along with fees it charges to property sellers. If you are a Realtor and you take your client and they buy a property at the auction your commission is a whopping 1%....but wait you have to fill out their agent form on the net in order to get your commission and you must do it prior to the event.

The properties are not in the best conditions...

“They don’t tend to be in the best condition,” said Terryanne St. Pierre, an associate broker with Taché Real Estate in Salem, Massachusetts. She said her company had listed several of the houses being auctioned. “They’ve been abused more often than not,” St. Pierre said.

Moldy basements, missing windows, burst pipes, and buckled floors are fairly common, the Globe found in touring some of the houses last weekend. The need for new paint is pervasive.

But the 2,000 or so people who attend these auctions are undeterred. Registration is free, although each bidder is required to bring a cashier’s check for $5,000. After each property is introduced, men in tuxedos rushed around encouraging people to spend money. (check out the guy in the picture on the top left corner)

“Hey, that guy is about to buy your home!” one auctioneer told a hesitant couple. “What’s another $10,000?”

On this weekend auction in Boston properties sold in a few minutes. Winners were escorted to a roped-off area to make a 5 percent down payment, for example, on a $300,000 house - the cashier’s check plus a personal check for $10,000. They were then escorted to an area behind curtains to qualify for a mortgage loan from Countrywide Home Loans.

Countrywide, the nation’s largest lender, has faced scrutiny as many of its borrowers lose their homes to foreclosure. This weekend, the company is attempting to sell some of those houses as part of the auction by Real Estate Disposition Corp.

But there’s an important caveat: The winning bid isn’t binding unless it exceeds an undisclosed threshold set by the seller. So what is this eBay's Reserve Pricing?

In most cases in Boston, the bidding quickly cleared that threshold, spurred by the antics of the auctioneers.

Chris Willis and Eli Sanchez wanted a vacation house on the Cape. They came to shop for bargains, but prices on the properties they liked quickly soared out of range. They were willing to pay $100,000 for a West Yarmouth ranch they considered a teardown. Willis, a Boston real estate broker, said the place looked good but had foundation problems.

The bidding soared past $100,000 in a matter of seconds. The place eventually sold for $200,000, leaving Willis shaking his head. “They’re basically buying land,” he said. “It makes no sense.”

Willis and Sanchez left after an hour.

Mike Gubla, a New Bedford contractor, also decided that the prices were too high.

“There’s civilians bidding here,” he said, explaining that inexperienced buyers were paying more than properties were worth. “I’ll come back next year, and the prices will be better,” he said.

Will they?

Bottom line is that what this company is doing with these forclosed homes Realtors can do and save our clients money in the process. We can contact the loss mitigation departments and negotiate with the banks. The ugly of it all is that inexperienced home buyers are running off to these auctions and are getting in over their heads.  I researched the following Orlando property on the USHomeAuction.com website:

http://www.ushomeauction.com/property.php?auctionID=H-015&itemID=7978&venueId=61&start=0

They show the starting bid at $59,000 and they show a previous value at $213,000 (which is the purchase price on  the property appraiser's website)  I'll check back in 30 days to see what the final price paid for this property on the auction went for. The sad part is that the previous owner (who defaulted) is going to get stuck with a bill from the mortgage company for the difference in what the auction sold the property to what is owed, what they paid USHomeAuction.com to sell the property, and any filing, legal charges and made up charges that they can think of. On top of that they will file this outstanding balance with the IRS and the defaulted owner is going to get stuck with all these charges.  So who ends up winning here? The Lender and USHOmeAuction.com. Who loses? The defaulted owner (BigTime) and the new smuck who over paid for this property in order not to use a Realtor.  

In closing here is what the new owner pays for winning a $300,000 auction with these guys:

1. $5000 check +

2. 5% down personal check $10,000 = $15,000

3. Financing???? They may have to put more money down depending on what Countrywide comes back with when they do the financing. 

No security that the home is worth that amount of money, plus no chance to do an inspection.

If they would used a Realtor:

1. Unlimited number of financing options available rather than just Countrywide 

2. Probably the bank would of paid 2% commission (I have yet to see 3%) to the Realtor

3. Most important an Inspection that could save them thousands of dollars! Priceless!

The Realtor community needs to educate the public, too many hard working Americans are taken for a ride from property auctions that we would never purchase on our own.  Their  hard work and years of savings are thrown down the drain of this cash cow that at one point looked liked a great deal, and soon these new homeowners will be facing the same fate as their predecessors. 

 

 

 

 

45 Comments on USHomeAuction.com Infomercials - Is this where Real Estate is Headed?

DEC
06
2007
Great blog. Just make sure you educate your clients and make them aware of all the legal risks involved
10:37pm • #1
JAN
30
2008
lot me know more pomona. chino.auction infor please Thanks.Debra.
debrawang1979@gmail.com
12:18pm • #2
FEB
13
2008
Great info I am going tonight on NoCal and this puts a few things in perspective.
T. Bryant
5:51pm • #3
MAR
04
2008
IT'S SO SAD THAT THERE'S A CROCK AROUND EACH AND EVERY CORNER.  THE AVERAGE HARD WORKING PERSON ALWAYS SEEMS TO GET TAKEN TO THE CLEANERS.  BUT ALL SHOULD DO THEIR HOMEWORK TOO, BEFORE INVESTING ANY MONEY.  I KNOW THAT I WILL. THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS "GET RICH QUICK."
SHARON IN VABCH.
11:14pm • #4
MAR
10
2008
Thanks for the info, it's a shame how these crooks can sleep at night with money in the bank (lots of it). What goes around, comes around....
John Silvestry
7:03am • #5
MAR
11
2008
I was really almost taken in on this auction. Thank you for the priceless information.
They don't mention if you get your earnest money back!
4:11pm • #6
I am glad most of you see a value in this post.  The way the market is currently and where it is headed these type of Auctions will begin to pop-up everywhere.  I want to make sure at least in this realm that is ActiveRain that Agents as well as Home Buyers alike are educated in this process.  The shame in all of this is that there are going to be a lot of innocent people being taken advantage of.  
7:18pm • #7
MAR
29
2008

From what I've seen the prices that buyers got on a previous auction looked well below market value.  I've been to the open houses and the properties looked in pretty good condition.. some even recently painted.. mostly carpeting needed replacing.  I wouldn't expect all these houses to be perfect, but so far things look legit to me, and if I can avoid stuffing money into a RE agent's pocket, the thought doesn't make me sad.   I wouldn't place much great faith in a RE agent saving all my nickels either.  I mean if a person's going to overpay for things, they can do that anywhere.  I want to hear better hard facts.

Pat in Orlando
2:35pm • #8

Hey Pat, I am happy that you have been able to go and visit some of the properties that are being auctioned in our market. However, what you have seen have been cosmetic changes; the easy things that you and I can do. Painting, changing fixtures, puting in a new door...that's all great and dandy but what is underneath the surface should worry any buyer. Foundational issues, what's behind the walls, mold, and framing issues. I am sorry you don't see the value in a Real Estate agent you must have had a bad experience. However we are here to not only provide a service but also protect our clients from making bad decisions. You may not find value in what we do, and as you put it "avoid stuffing money into a RE agent's pocket" who's pocket do you think your stuffing when you go this route USHomeAuction? I am sure after all is said and done you'll be stuffing their pockets much more than any agent you may have used.  That should make you sad! : (

Good Luck to you my friend...please let us know how it goes. 

4:49pm • #9
The foundations are typical for the area.. slab on grade. The walls are typical for the area.. CMU.  No smell and signs of mildew on the wall and ceilings.  If necessary, ripping up some sheet rock to save oodles of money is worth it.  Drama, drama..
Pat in Orlando
9:30pm • #10
APR
13
2008

hey pat,

BUYERS DON'T PAY AGENTS, SELLERS DO.

In most cases the buyers agent will drive a buyer around for FREE with the hope that the buyer doesn't have a cousin; "that has a license"

 i am in agent in northern california(S.F. Bay Area) and in the last 10 years i have driven buyers around from house to house, spent money on GAS,LUNCHES,COFFEE, DINNERS,GAS(yes i said gas again).with the hope that after meeting with home inspectors,appriasers and countless hours talking to the other agent, the buyer, the buyers spouse(saying the same thing i just said two minutes ago) the buyers mom, the buyers girlfriend, boyfriend, brother ,sister,  on my cell phone,Office phone and house phone,  and 35-40 days, the hope that the buyer doesn't get remorse, and back out. Based on something a co-worker said to some else in passing.

 i have been lucky that only 25-35% of my buyers have walked, faked, flaked, DIDN'T call back after 30 days of working me like the DOG they DON'T like. and i still have been able to feed my family pretty good on 65-75% percent of my yaerly salary.

 and still, I LOVE MY JOB and i wouldn't do anything else. In my eyes i get to help 65% of the people i talk to Buy or sell thier home.

 

david lewis
3:06pm • #11
APR
22
2008
I have been in the flipping of homes condo's since college by brother is a home inspector he has a gun the shows wetness or heat in wall I looked at over 50 of the properties all of the sheet rock needed to be replaced and the pools were all damaged. the value that is given is no longer what the house is worth and it will only go down atleast 20 more points over the next 3 yrs  by the time everything is completed and ready to move you should have bought a new one.
Tom from tampa
10:12pm • #12
MAY
02
2008
and pat as far as the selling price at the auction the get a total of 7% of the selling price here is the break downs 5% of the final bid and 2% of misc.fee from the lender on the final bid. just so everyone know's no I am not a lic real estate agent but I do have a few that do alot of leg work for me. So if you bought a home at 250k you paid upfront to the auction company 17500 then you take own ship the you put another 30-50k into the property to put it up for sale an if your buyer bring my brothers company into the mix they will do a mold test and just about ever other test out there just so you know they have 22 offices in fla. so think about it this way if you do all of that work and they make you rip it down to the studs now your screwed. I tell you this because it happened to me in hilton head sc. just trying to help you out to help you say money not lose money. I have to say that this is a great blog because the avg. person has no clue about realestate period and the big companies like countrywide are just trying to say there company well it is now own by bank of america other wise the would have been bk and out of the picture. so people need to know that there is nothing for free.
Tom from tampa
9:45pm • #13
MAY
17
2008

Felix,

I think people should do their own research before purchasing anything of substantial value. The AUCTION format allows for a mass sale of any product that could potentially create a profit for some people. I  have been in the Real Estate industry for over 20 years and it is always interesting to hear from REALTORS that complain of how buyers get bad deals without their service. The question should be if the AUCTION provided a "good" deal for your buyer, should it matter if you received a full commission or not? The fiduciary responsibility to a buyer should always be foremost and not the REALTORS commission. The post would seem more sincere if you left out the issue of commissions. Are you more upset with not getting paid enough or buyers overpaying for homes?? 

Jimmy from Texas
10:26am • #14

Jimmy you must re-read the post again as it certainly is not about the commission.  Commission aside buyers who go the USHomeAuction way without Realtor representation are doing themselves an injustice.  For someone like you who has Real Estate experience this may be insignificant. But for those 80% that attend such auctions and do not have that experience under their belts this is where the problem lies. Not only are they asked to bring a substantial down payment before getting in the place, then if they win the bid they have to put more money down.  In the long run it may cost them more than what they are saving.  Again I go back to inspection, are these future homeowners getting the proper inspection on the properties they are trying to obtain. Do they have the knowledge to understand what they are signing, are they strong enough to walk away instead of being talked into a property that they will end up paying too much for what its worth? They are being forced to us a lender "Countrywide", if that's not strongarming I am not sure what is, and your comment "The fiduciary responsibility to a buyer should always be foremost and not the REALTORS commission." is way off the mark.  My fiduciary responsibility is to my clients first, and if it means saving them money rather than throwing them to the wolves in an auction that is what I am going to do. I've done deals in the past where I have walked away with nothing in my pocket, simply to help my clients. It's funny how people only see Realtors as seeking a commission, rather than what we do to help those that we serve. Yet they see these Auction companies as a great service, while they are the ones really digging into people's pockets.    

7:07pm • #15
JUN
01
2008

Great blog!Let's face it, It's a dog eat dog world out there.

I've read the messages, and have gotten an immediate dose of reality where seasoned opportunists are taking advantage of beginning opportunists. I will take it nice and slow, and measure all the costs involved and stay away from all the buying frenze. My best bet, is to deal directly with the home owners where possible, and genuinely help them out of their siuation without losing money on the deal. I use realtors, because they have a grasp of the neighborhoods they specialize in, as long as they are proven performers, and are entusiastic in working with me. Buy right, sell right, live well. 

eduard Rijborz from san juan capistrano
2:36am • #16
JUN
06
2008

Felix

     Thank You for your explanation of these auctions.  I have been burnt on Ebay, and when I tried to inform ebay, they made me jump through hoops to make a complaint.  I gave up trying. 

 A lot of people think because the Auctions use a fancy hotel confrence room it is ligit.  The bottom line when ever you make big money decision it is buyer beware.  I know some people do get a positive result from these auctions or ebay.  But not enough people know where to look for information, and in realestate there are laws that make you some what responsible for a bad transaction.

JulieG
8:30am • #17

I found some of this information useful but I feel it may be biased. I am going to one of these auctions tomorrow to bid on a house and will post my results within the next few weeks. The house I've been tracking was on the market a few months ago and was selling for $600k. The first time I saw it was with a real estate agent and it was in the same condition at that time that it is now that it's going to auction.

I should point out a piece of misinformation in your blog is that when you bid on a home at one of these auctions, you don't get to see the house. In fact, they have an open house for each property. I went to the open house for the property I'm looking at and brought my handyman with me. The house has mold in the basement, needs paint and carpet, and is missing the stove. We estimate about $40k to make this house shine. But if I can save over $100k, it will be worth it.

It is good to know that the properties have a "reserve price" on them. I heard that from other people too and will keep it in mind. I'm thinking it may be a good idea to ask if my bid went past the reserve before I hand over the $5k non-refundable deposit.

Anyway, this may be a good experience and it may be a bad one. Either way, I'll let you folks know.

Sully
8:54am • #18

FYI -- the "previously valued to" price is what the property was worth at the peak of the housing boom. I'm guessing it's a way for them to make the uneducated buyers think that the property is worth more than it really is. Since prices have come down, I would take about 25% off to get what the property would appraise for today.

Sully
9:15am • #19

Sully:  Thanks for your comments I am interested in hearing about your experience. Be prepared to hand over the 5k before they even allow you to bid. Good luck on your property bid I hope you do well and that your calculations are correct. I wish you the best!

Blessings,

Felix

9:42am • #20
JUL
05
2008

Real estate is a very expensive investment.  If you are middle class and you make a bad real estate investment decision, you could financially set yourself back decades. 

Use common sense.  A disproportionate share of real estate "investors" are working-class people who are trying to get ahead financially, but do not really understand the mechanisms that affect asset values.  They take out loans they don't understand and end up stuck with an asset that doesn't end up making them money.  Slow down with real estate, get help from people you trust who are finanically savvy.  If you don't have anybody you trust who is financially savvy, spend the next year or two reading as much as you can about finances before committing to such a huge purchase.

Real estate agents, loan officers, auctioneers, inspectors, appraisers, etc, all benefit financially from real estate transactions.  They benefit when real estate changes hands.  Do not listent to a word your agent, broker, or other real estate professionals tell you if you don't know them or have good reason to trust their advice.  It is absolutely foolish to listen to somebody who makes money when you buy a house, but does not lose a thing if you have any subsequent financial difficulty in case the decisions you made were bad.  This is common sense, buyer beware!  Look at the agent hosting this blog, he lists higher commission to the real estate agent as an advantage of avoiding auctions!

 

Be serious if you want to buy
8:01am • #21

Funny how "Be serious if you want to buy" posts on my blog without actually leaving a true name or who he is.  Although he makes some valid points about using common sense, understanding the mechanisms that effect asset value, and posting that people ahould get help. He fails to deliver where these buyers should get help, and the point of this blog is for people to beware of these new auction technics. 

Having said that he ends his post stating that all involved in Real Estate transactions are all looking to benefit financially from these transactions.  Let's be real, Real Estate is my job I have prepared studied, and deliver service to my clients. That's what we get paid for, the same way when we get paid for performing our jobs and our employer reimburses us with that bi-weekly paycheck.  Furthermore, he states that we don't lose anything if any decision is made that is subsequently hardship to the buyer. That's where he's wrong as an agent I do lose, I lose a client and additional referrals so it is not advantageous for me to lead my client in the wrong direction, and to state that I list higher commission as an advantage of avoiding auctions again is false. But then again he doesn't know me and doesn't know the service I give my clients. So all in all he just posted to reflect his views on something he has no clue about and to discredit the service's provided by Real Estate agents.

9:17am • #22
AUG
15
2008

You should bring this to the media's attention, it's ok for industry and brokers to make a decent commission, after all they are in the real estate business. There in it to make money. But intentionally misleading, and knowingly accepting these compensations, they should be executed like in china, when management knowingly commits these crime. they are executed. Their families are shamed. In this world, where we believe we are AAmericans. The land of freedom and brotherhood. But the truth is everyone (EVERYONE) is a thief of some type. How can we criticize others for there crimes and we sit behind some corporation, and say how wrong the banks and lenders are. but we pray we get our price for our house.  (SLEEP WELL)

paddleballmag@gmail.com
8:38pm • #23
AUG
20
2008

I think realtors compare to car salesmen, but these auctioneers have devised a schem that is "boarderline legal" and absurdly full of hype. It would be interesting to see the Press, the Feds, and the State Representatives get involed ... and expose them! My accollades to this blog.  

David Teitelman
9:26pm • #24
SEP
03
2008

Great blog! I'm preparing to invest my insurance settlement and the proceeds of my inheritance into the home of my dreams - something that I can leave to my children. I thought the auction thing might be a good idea, but I am naturally suspicious of such companies. Your blog confirmed my deepest concerns.

I've had both good and bad experiences with realtors, as is also the case with teachers, police, medical professionals, business owners, and don't even get me started on lawyers! In other words, human beings in general are good or bad, honest or dishonest, kind or cruel - regardless of their profession. Are we now shaking our collective fingers at realtors for wanting to be paid for their efforts? They are supposed to work for free, unlike everyone else?

I for one will be happy to pay a reasonable commission to a professional who will guard my interests while I make the investment of my life. And I thank you for your professional advice on this issue, which was rendered to me free of charge, with no hope of gaining anything from me (I'm in CA). My childrens' future rides on the decision I make in the next 6 months, so I'd be a fool to attempt to cut out the one person involved who just MIGHT be on MY side.

Melanie
11:02am • #25

Melanie, thanks for the post and kind words. My advice is to interview the Realtor who will represent you. Just don't settle on the first one or two you speak to. Ask them questions, when was the last time they sold a property? Were they a Sellers agent or Buyers Agent? What has been their most difficult sale, and why? Ask them personal questions that may be important to you, do they have a family? Where do they worship? Is Real Estate a full time job or part time? For the most part you want honest answers but you also want to see how they handle your questions. Don't be afraid to choose a part time Realtor, at times they are the most hungry to work and may find a deal that is right for you. We all got started somewhere and part-time Realtors have a place in our industry just like full timers. Aside from your husband, ask friends and family for support but I would caution you about sticking with family support, I have seen it many times when relatives urge a buyer or seller in the wrong direction mainly because they are jealous. If you have a friend or family member helping you make sure they have your best interests at heart, especially since this will affect your children.

As a dad of two I am always on the look-out to protect my children. A home investment not only demonstrates your affirmation for their well being and provides shelter but it furthers your commitment to provide a healthy living environment. Kids see that, and they will remember later on how you handled the home buying process.   Lastly, don't be afraid to ask an agent for a few buyer/seller references on the spot. Give those folks a call right away and ask them about their experience with the Realtor you are calling about. Tell them you are about to make a choice on someone to represent you and you want to know what Agent X is like. Does he/she return phone calls, emails, and did he/she present them with home alternatives or did they do the work?  Bottom line is that you and your agent will need to work together to find the best property for you, narrow your choices down, and best of all communicate with your agent what you are looking for in a home. I wish you the best in your new home search, if there is anything else I can do please do not hesitate to ask.

Blessings,

Felix

9:16pm • #26
OCT
07
2008

Thanks, thanks and thanks again for the information on this blog. I recently purchased a foreclosure earlier this year. I did it the old fashioned way. I was thinking about purchashing another, when I saw the infomercial about REDC. It is so easy to get caught up in the moment by just watching the photos and the so called prices for these homes. Thank goodness for wisdom and the blog. Now I know what to do if I decide to proceed with this process. Unfortunately people will seize the opportunity to take advantage of the economy and other peoples misfortune and lack of knowledge. Once again thanks to everyone to "blogged" in. You've given me alot of food for thought.

 

rj
8:06am • #27
OCT
15
2008

I was THIS close to putting in my Credit Card info in their registration page when a presence of mind told me do a google for "ushomeauction complain"

Thankfully I did.

Just saved me some grief
Thanks guys!

 

 

Shawn
5:28pm • #28
OCT
22
2008

My experience with one of their auctions in Arizona. I'm a small time realestate investor and I had inspected the properties I was interested in and I knew what I was getting into in re the condition of the property. I knew what my maximum bid would be.  I won the bid on one of the properties I was interested in.  The $5000 certified funds I had to have to enter the auction floor covered my down payment. I had gone pre-approved for a loan for the amount that the bid ended up. Sounds OK so far yes?

After a month the selling bank had refused to accept my bid (apparently my bid didn't reach their minimum sale price reserve) and my money was returned.  But for 30 days they had cashed my check and held my monies - probably in an interest producing account before they returned the money to me. 

I know there were other properties at this auction that sold and then were on the auction block with this same organization again at the next auction a couple of months later.  One was a $2million home - so how much are they making on the monies they hold on to for the month or two before the winning bid is declined by the bank that owns the property.  They have to know what the reserve is.

10:21am • #29
NOV
03
2008

USHomeAuction/REDC is currently in Minneapolis.  I did some digging too and most people who have experience with them say there are shills who bid against real bidders to raise the price and, suspiciously, many of the same properties come back for a second round.

I don't doubt there are shills.  But even from USHomeAuctions terms, I would avoid even attending an auction.  Buyers have to bring a $5,000 cashiers check to qualify (buyer gets to keep that until they win a bid) and then, if they win a bid, they put down that or 5% of the value of the bid.  Then the buyer has 21 days to come up with financing or they lose their earnest money.  There is also a 5% buyers premium and buyer pays all closing costs.  The seller has 7 days to reject the offer.  Presumably they'll roll the die and hope the buyer falls out first so they can keep the buyer's earnest money.

So the question is, if the seller can decide a week later whether they even want the offer and the buyer has to jump through hoops plus pay a 5% buyers premium and closing costs, what's the value in the buyer attending a frenzied auction where they blare music trying to sucker buyers into paying a premium?

I don't know if I would say USHomeAuction.com/REDC is an outright scam but that operation is certain shady at the very best.

PaperProphet
10:12am • #30
NOV
11
2008

One of these is coming up in Chicago, and I was toying with attending. I'm wondering about the other hidden liabilities.  For example one condo building in Chicago is facing a $6.5million window replacement of the entire building.  Its an ongoing lawsuit with the developer.  But, in the short term, owners are facing a $50K-75K special assessment.  If one were to purchase such a property in one of these auctions, does the new owner now take on the liability for any unpaid Homewowners Assessment?  The language on the ushomeauction website says the buyer is responsible for all Homeowners Assessments.  Could this be construed as the new owner assumes any existing liabilities even if undisclosed?  If not, there is still the possibility of an anticipated but not yet levied special assessment.

Brian
9:55am • #31
NOV
22
2008

I've been to these auctions and there are shill bidders in the audience to get the price up to an acceptable level -- then they try to get real buyers to bid up from the shills. It's a scam -- and exactly what we don't need in these difficult times.

 

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DUI / DWI Lawyer
2:17pm • #32
NOV
30
2008

Thanks Felix!

I had been seeing the commercial for USHome Auctionsfor the past week here in Atlanta and had gotten prepared to attend. I am in a "Rent-to-own" situation right now but wanted to explore other options. Looks like I'd better sit here for a minute until the right opportunity comes along.

                                              Thanx again for this research....

 

Metta4
1:25am • #33
DEC
05
2008

Lots of great input re; ushomeauction.com. I just registered to look, now that's ALL I'm going to do! so hey, what happened to Sully, its been 6mos???  If your out there, please respond.

 

Ron
4:44pm • #34
DEC
06
2008

Thank you one and all for your comments!  I saw an ad for this auction co., and thought that it might be a Godsend way to make some $$ at substantial discount to mkt.  Thx for helping me get my feet back on the ground with your sage advice.  No such thing as a free lunch is still true, & caveat emptor.

Shill bidders!  I never would have thought of that.  Nor would I have been aware of non binding "purchase."

Purchasing at an auction requires due diligence, coupled with ice water in the veins, for cold, calculated decisionmaking--just the opposite of an auction environment, where the object is to get people excited and become bidders.  Auction bidding is great for investment pro's; potential disaster for beginners.

BTW, a friend/realtor in SW Fl. said to me that she won't get involved in foreclosed single family homes, due to mold issues.  She said that uninhabited single family homes need to be bulldozed!  Maybe that is extreme, maybe not, but as a northerner, I would not have thought of mold problems.

Wayne
10:20pm • #35
DEC
15
2008

Felix,

Thanks for providing  a platform for this discussion. I do see some uneducated buyers getting burnt badly with this.

I recently attended the REDC auction in Fort Lauderdale held on Dec 13th, 2008. While I can see both sides of the issue (author and reviewers), here are my comments:

1. The format of the auction is pure frenzy, giving the buyer absolutely no time for any rational decision making, with regards to the bid amount.

2. The operation itself appears shady, because a lot of the properties were being re-auctioned about 30 minutes after being shown as "Under Contract". How do you explain that?

3. The majority of homes being sold are in really bad condition. They need some serious work. So if you are a handyman or know a friend who is, you may be OK.

4. Personally, I went to bid on an acre lot (LAND ONLY) whose market value is about $50K.Being the foreclosure auction that it was, I was hoping to get it for $35K.

No Such Luck!

At the auction however, the story was different. Before I could even raise my hand to bid, the bid reached $50K.

Thankfully, I was not the sucker! The guy that bought it did not seem happy....his prime complaint was that someone did a bidding war, thereby overinflating the property.

5. There was a lot of suspicous bidding by individuals that (in my opinion) had been planted/embedded by REDC to exxagerate the prices! This must be investigated by the FTC or some housing authority.  I saw this time and time again.

Like most people, I was under the impression that you usually get a awesome deal on real-estate at this auction. I was wrong.

6. Some of the properties were worthy only for the land they were built on. They would need to be torn down. Given that, it was stupid for anyone to be paying for the value of the building....but yet, people did because in their minds they were getting a "deal".

7. Had they held everyone's $5K cashier's check before bidding, I think people would bid more responsibly and there would be less potential for fraud. What is to stop anyone from bidding and outrageous amount and then walk away without losing a penny?

In summary,

The activities of this company should be subject to regulatory scrutiny. There are too many inproprieties and instances of unscrupolous behaviour to be overlooked.

I would not attend their auction again. The people running the show did not have an air of honesty. They are out to get money, any which way they can.

Y'all should think 10 times (not twice) before handing over the $5K cashier's check.

My final 2 cents:

BUYER BEWARE!

Amit

Amit
1:02pm • #36
DEC
25
2008

OUCH!!!! These guys are real scam artists. I went to one of the auctions and it had the atmosphere of an Amyway rally. Desperate people looking for the holy grail. The Tuxedo guys were taken back that I did not need any financing. Then they tried to get me to increase my bid stating that the other bidder was going to take my "dream Home" so when I responded with oh well, let them have it ,he became very upset and wanted me to reinstate my bid. I believe they did not have the bidder they stated they did. SCAM  Buyers beware. Sad situation sooo many people trying to "hit it big" just opens the door for a scam artists. Pity I know all Real Estate Agents are not crooks but this activity puts them in a slimy position.

4:32pm • #37
JAN
26
2009

I was trying to find my sister, in California, a house to live and get out of renting when I found REDC auction site. I was so excited (like most) by the low starting bids! Wow! Some homes starting as low as $500.00! Some decent looking homes for $29,000.00 starting bids - heck even the land alone was worth that! So, I did some homework and read the "Terms and Conditions" where it spells out, in plain English, that there is not only a reserve amount above the opening bidding amount listed but that the owners of the property (bank/real estate agent/or other agent, etc) could up the bid in order to get the price to the amount they wanted - IT IS SPELLED OUT! I didn't want to believe it. Then, my sister went to visit some of the houses during the open house and many of the properties that were on our "list" had been taken off. Scratching my head, I wondered what was up. Then, it dawned on me - you get a room crowded with people who were wanting their dreams to come true and bid up the price of the remaining homes and what do you get? A lot of over-inflated prices! BUT this was not a scam! It was not illegal! Why? Because they spelled it out to anyone willing to read the terms and conditions. If I could read them, then they weren't hidden. Ebay uses the Seller's Reserve feature but they do not allow Sellers to up the prices as does REDC. But it's not illegal because they tell you up front that this is the way it is done in their terms and conditions.

I cancelled my flight for the Valentine's Day weekend and will use it to visit my mother in April - a much better way to spend my time and money.

David Sanchez (dallasmsl yahoo com)
6:35am • #38
JAN
29
2009
Just bought a gem at the USHOMEAUCTION. Got my dream home for $1.2 Mil. Just got appraised for $4 Mil. There are some hidden gems if you look hard enough. So if it is a scam, they didn't get me. Good luck everyone
Jerry Johnson
11:12pm • #39
FEB
16
2009

I found this house via the USHomeAuction site and I love it.  Mind you, I have not viewed the property yet, the walk thru is on Feb 21st.  I am a carpenter, plumber, and half a** electrician, and a Union Bricklayer.  Been in the business for over 30 years.  The only thing that they can pull over my eyes is the hidden charges.  I can smell termites, I have xray vision when it comes to structural problems, and all the rest that can go wrong with a house. 

I do value your input Felix, thank you for giving us pause and asking us to think about this service.  I don't know what that guy's problem that attacked you, I can only say that maybe he's one of those guys wearing the penquin suits?? 

I'll try to get back to this site on the 21st to let you know what I found out about this group of penquins to give you more info.  I do see by the ad for the house that it was listed for over 200,000, and yes, that is the inflated housing price.  I remember when these houses were 100,000. or less, but that was years ago. 

Talking about housing prices, I'm glad that they are falling.  I have a neighbor that is on pension and the taxes are killing him.  I betcha the tax man won't lower his taxes as fast as they raised them due to the fall. 

 

Kaptainess
8:06pm • #40
FEB
23
2009

Thank you, you have saved me time and effort.  I was starting to look into this since they are advertising and coming to town in a few weeks.

Jim in denver
11:35am • #41
MAR
01
2009

Kaptainess,

So, what has happened? Did you buy anything? What was your take on the auction?

 

David Sanchez (dallasmsl yahoo com)
9:39am • #42

I just saw an infomercial in southern california.  I don't know if this is the first or not.  Thanks for the great information.

REDC is licensed as a corporation, license number 01848602, issued 07/08/08. All information can be found at: www2.dre.ca.gov (click on Real Estate License Lookup). Any complaints can be sent to the Department of Real Estate.

SoCal Bill
4:40pm • #43
MAR
23
2009

in Puerto Rico happend the same to me this past weekend. Houses were at stake. After the bid, at the time to close the deal, the bank came out with a RESERVED price..Surprise!!!!The reserved price was higher than the price archived by the bid.... HomeAuction are  Scams and a complete waste of time and energies.

PR VISITOR
9:56am • #44
APR
06
2009

This is great effort to help people like us undertsand what auction could do. I am all prepared to have 25% down to countrywide for a investor's property and if I can get the property at 80,000 or less.

if the auction bid is 60,000 and property value 300,000, can I go to loss mitigation department and ask for the property at 100,000. do they directly deal with Buyers?

vistor from fremont, CA
2:30pm • #45

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