User29904_2_t Dee Neal Philadelphia Real Estate
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Last week, I get a phone call from my uncle. I pick up the phone and he's telling me how excited he is about a property he just saw. He says to me that he is stepping out on faith because he sees a building that is a good opportunity for a family business. He was soooooooo excited.

The next day (it was too late to be making appointments when he called me), I rushed to the phone to make the appointment. As soon as it was confirmed, I called my uncle and we met after he got off work that night. It was such a beautiful sight when he pulled up to the building with the whole family in towe. He, his wife, his oldest son, his daughter, his youngest son, his sister in law, and her little girl all jumped out of the SUV. I could see them salivating as they approached the door.

I had to disappoint them....

I couldn't get in. I walked up to the door and reach for the lockbox and to our dismay, there was no face and no key! The family was a little discouraged and I know my uncle was too but of course he didn't show it.

The next day, I called the listing agent to let him know that I tried to show his listing but couldn't get in because someone had broken into his lockbox and took the key. He said he would hop right on it and get another key from the owner. A couple days went by the listing agent called me back with common news that you never think you will encounter until it happens to you........THE PROPERTY WAS STOLEN!! PROPERTY BANDITS STRIKE AGAIN!!! That's right, I said stolen. It happens often here in Philadelphia where there is an abundance of vacant property. Property bandits seek out these vacant properties that have been sitting for a while and high tale it on down to city hall and transfer the deed for their own profit. How do they do this? Well with fake id in the owners name is how. City Hall's on requirement is that the documents are filled out "correctly" according to their requirements and that fraudulent document recording go undetected until a legal transaction is attempted. They have however, made an effort to stop the bandits in their tracks by sending out notification letters to property owners whenever there is a transfer of deed. This is a nice effort but if the property is vacant, where are you sending the letters? Here is a copy of that letter for your viewing pleasure: http://www.phila.gov/records/pdfs/letter.pdf

I don't know if this happens in other areas but I'm thinking that we should do some checking of public records when we have clients who want to buy or sell vacant property. It may be a tedious task but protecting our clients is worth it. Usually these property bandits are looking for a quick sale so checking the public records for any recent transfers in the deed could save your clients time and money. Just think about. Taking that extra step can get you and your clients out of disasters path.

Here are some links for more detailed information:

I hope this information helps. In the meantime, the listing agent on my case is working with their client's to help them get this matter resolved. I will post another blog on this topic once I know the outcome. Until then...happy raining........

 

 

 

11 Comments on Case Of The Property Bandits

Wow! I have never heard of that! I'm going to check it out!

12/10/2007 03:18 PM by Lania DeMers, Broker Rocky Mountain Realty Co. (Rocky Mountain Realty Co.)


Lania..it happens alot here because there's an overflow of vacant property in my area. alot of property exchanges hands in the absence of a realor and as cash transactions. it's scary but it happens....in this case the bandits aren't very fortunate...

12/10/2007 03:27 PM by Dee Neal Philadelphia Real Estate (Exit Realty Waterfront Group)


Haven't heard of that here but you never know.  We did a have a very bad guy doing a pyramid type scheme of buying and selling but they finally almost got him.  At least he is identified and people are working on putting him behind bars.

12/10/2007 04:12 PM by Gene Allen Realtor Hampton Roads Real Estate (Resh Realty Group)


happened a lot here too, especially with vacant land, The bad guys would identify a property where the property taxes werent being paid and as you say, simply transfer the property. All that the county offices required to make it official was a notery stamp. Easily stolen

12/10/2007 04:13 PM by Ron Parise (LocateHomes.com)


gene: you guys are lucky..this is a very common thing here and the city has bigger fish to fry so it's really up to owners to keep their eye on their own vacant property.

ron: typical here. very easy to do. and these properties are the same....owners haven't paid taxes in years....

12/10/2007 04:23 PM by Dee Neal Philadelphia Real Estate (Exit Realty Waterfront Group)


That is news to me, I too will look into it and pass that on. Thank you for the blog.

12/10/2007 08:18 PM by Christina Bennani (RE/MAX Colonial)


Dee,

This is certainly disconcerting, and I'm sure your uncle was truly disappointed.

In Ohio there is NO law that requires a deed to be recorded, so checking the courthouse records won't help much.  Odd, I know, but true.

Thanks for a great post!  You're a natural! 

12/10/2007 08:27 PM by Carol Smith (Soon to be Keller Williams Preferred Realty)


carol...omg! it would be a mess here if there was no law requiring deeds to be recorded. the property bandits would have a field day bigger than they already are....

12/10/2007 09:06 PM by Dee Neal Philadelphia Real Estate (Exit Realty Waterfront Group)


Hey Dee! I knew nothing about this, thanks for the heads up. The links were helpful too!

12/12/2007 08:43 PM by Chrissy Myers (Nick's Real Estate)


I heard of this - it's scary what people will try to get away with.

12/12/2007 08:47 PM by Carol Culkin (Century 21 - Anita Ferri Realty)


carol: what's even more scary is that they DO indeed get away with it here....alot. if nobody complains, the city won't budge on it because it just takes the liability of abandoned properties off their hands. alot of the property in the philadelphia area is really old and most times owners can't afford the upkeep and they just leave them sitting without knowing what options they have..these are the properties these people prey on. they've been sitting for what seems like forever, the taxes aren't paid, and they just scoop them up.... more reasons why we need to educate owners and encourage them to sell if they can't handle it instead of letting someone steal their property.

12/12/2007 09:10 PM by Dee Neal Philadelphia Real Estate (Exit Realty Waterfront Group)


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