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realtor ad with pinWith just a couple of chicken bones left on my plate, I must have looked rather misty as we sat listening to Bing Crosby's Twelve Days of Christmas for the thirteenth time.

"Penny for your thoughts?" my mother asked.

"Oh, it's nothing," I replied. "I was just wondering if real estate agents will maintain their place right above lawyers as the most hated work group in 2007."

"Oh," said my mother. "Well have a mince pie, dear."

If you think ‘Buyers are Liars', the New Year is a great time to get real. Let's be honest, buyers will never even begin to match real estate agents when it comes to lying - I mean ‘fluffing up' the truth. Lord knows, our entire industry is predicated on 'spin'. What is spin? Well, you show me 'spin' and I'll show you an untruth. The fact is, since joining the real estate industry two years ago, I have seen as much unethical behavior as when I served as a police officer. The only difference is that it doesn't involve beating folk with sticks.

The interesting part about that statement is that at no time have I observed any appreciable difference between those persons who were members of the National Association of Realtors (NAR) and those who were not. In fact, NAR's holier-than-thou attitude regarding their 'realtor' status is sadly misplaced: the issue of unethical behavior in our profession cannot be solved by something as simple as membership of an industry trade group.

The public know this. They are not uneducated - and they will not have the wool pulled over their eyes by an advertising campaign to 'educate' them about what makes a great sales associate. They understand instinctively that so long as our business is based on commission dollars, the industry will be fraught with behavior that is less than honorable. They understand that any employee who relies purely on commission to put a roof over their head cannot be trusted to consistently deliver impartial or unbiased services. Indeed, the first question that exits any savvy mouth when offered services is: "Are you commission based?" A "Yes" response won't necessarily jeopardize the sale, but it certainly halts the expectation that one's best interests are about to be served - fiduciary or otherwise.

So why do we join NAR? The simple fact is that most people join because they have no choice. NAR operates like your typical in-house union, and you have no choice but to join if your broker has already made that decision for you. The first time I joined NAR I was told that I had two choices: either I joined up (and ponied up) or I could go find another broker. So of course, I joined up (and I ponied up). I have another friend who would actually like to join, alas, she may not (regardless of her excellent moral credentials) because her broker is not a member.

This is exactly how a closed-shop union operates; it's a special kind of industry-acceptable blackmail. But increasing numbers of agents are decrying NAR's stance as divisive and unhealthy. It leads to elitism and the creation of bogeymen (non members) and scapegoats. 

The truth is, that it's perverse and just plain wrong to suggest that agents who are members of NAR are any better, any more educated, more sophisticated, more likely to behave ethically - more trained even, than those agents who have not joined this national frat house. Suggesting to the public that anyone who is not a realtor just isn't up to par, based on their lack of membership of a self-serving trade organization is short- sighted, disingenuous and in itself, deeply unethical.

Demonizing sales associates who are not members of NAR as the enemy without will do nothing to alter the root cause of this problem, which is that dual agency causes a conflict of interest - hence its prohibition in many states. Most of us understand that. Now understand this: when your interests are split between 'number one' who needs to make the sale, and your client who's looking for the best deal, that's another form of dual agency, known as divided loyalty. Attaching the term 'fiduciary' to the client will not change human nature. We will always look after 'number one' - and in my experience, that is not always the 'fiduciary'.

In the final analysis, the issue is not whether an individual is a realtor or not, nor whether they live by some nebulous code of ethics (as those nauseating NAR commercials would have you believe). The issue is the system itself. And it's peculiar to the United States. In the UK for example, 'estate agents' as they are known, are employees, who attract a regular salary (with some commission thrown in).

I've been thinking about this subject more than usual lately because, due to a shift in specialism, I've recently changed brokers. My new broker is not a member of NAR, and is therefore not a 'realtor'. (Shame on his heathen soul.) He's been in the business for 35 years, and is as honest and competent as the day is long. But as a commercial specialist, he doesn't need the MLS and sees little virtue in NAR's self-righteous posturing. It follows that his lack of membership automatically revokes my own membership, which is a shame - and hardly logical. First, I'm practically press ganged into joining, and then I'm tossed out unceremoniously - left to roam open houses alone - just a minor league, second class, sales associate once more. Make sense?

So to my subjugated brothers and sisters who are forbidden from sporting the coveted golden "R" I would say this: If NAR wants to suggest that our clients should expect to be short changed because we are membership-less incompetents, perhaps they need an introduction to the only work group that is hated more than our own. My attorney's office would be more than happy to send along an envoi, with something special for 2007 - a class action lawsuit for libel?

Marcus Burke, PhD, GRI, e-PRO, ACRE is a Realtor and broker of record for the Orlando Real Estate Group and Condo Metropolis LLC. For more information on Orlando home sales, or to list your home for sale with us, call: 407-290-3408 or email Info@CondoMetropolis.com

 

 

 

46 Comments on NAR = Not Absolutely Rational?

DEC
30
2006
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Marcus,

The only reason why I'm a member of NAR is because my broker is and because I have to be in order to have access to a lockbox and the local MLS.

NAR doesn't require me to do anything "extra" or "more" than Virginia does in order to keep my real estate license and be a "better" agent. No required classes in ethics, proper representation of my clients, nothing...

And guess they missed the part about agents being viewed the same way as the scum of the earth (quote from many a consumer speaking of agents/brokers).

Why does the industry have this reputation? Well, reputations are earned, whether good or bad. Obviously, the industry as a whole has done something, but no one wants to admit it. Come on now...

Let's admit it, face it head on and deal with it. That's the only way it will change.

3:03pm • #1
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LoL..man are you on a rant...what got your panties all bunched up? Hey I'm happy you're not a REALTOR...Good for you... if that makes you happy go for it!

I am a REALTOR and I'm proud of it...but thats me. I won't take your joy away from you and I won't let you take mine. 

Happy New Years 

5:46pm • #2
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Hey Monika... thanks for that... it's not even that I don't want to be, it's that I never got a choice either way. It's completely arbitrary and totally dependent on whichever broker I happen to be with.
6:02pm • #3
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Hey Marcus...Back then I had no choice either but I found the glass half full rather than half empty. Sorry that you didn't.

 

But I did Monika. You're missing the point, which is that I'm the same person whether I join or not. And I'll provide the same great service.

 

6:29pm • #4
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It doesn't matter to me about membership with NAR, or the title Realtor.  I'm dependant on my MLS requiring me to maintain these memberships, but I would be just as good either way...
6:38pm • #5
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With that I agree...If you're going to do the right thing whether or not anyone is watching..won't matter if you wear a REALTOR R or not.  You are no better or worse than me...absolutely!
7:13pm • #6
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Interesting that you wrote this. Did you hear me at breakfast this morning?  I went on a rant about how NAR is actually holding us back and how they are like the union leaders of yesterday and we are like the union laborers who did not want the people in the factory to work too fast for fear everyone would have to work faster.  NAR is setting the pace and keeping comissions high for the common good. Every other industry has changed because of technology and passed the savings on to their customers.  We don't do that at all.  We cling to our ancient business models and insist that we need to charge X amount.  It honestly does not cost me much more to list a 500K house than it does to list a 150K house.  The profit margins on the two types of listings are very different.  I dislike the way discount brokerages work, i think they do the worst job.  they charge way less but do nothing making the entire cost to the consumer a waste of money.  Sorry to go on and on but I think we are all in trouble here.  I belong to NAR because I have to.
7:16pm • #7
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Theresa where does NAR set the pace and keeping commissions high for the common good? All commissions are negotiable between the seller and the listing agent. The listing agent has an office policy that they should abide by. It is that office policy that sets the tone. NAR does not have a thing to do with me when I charge a seller the fee I feel my services are worth.

Thanks Jay 

7:30pm • #8
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Theresa,

I agree with you about the NAR!  Unfortunately, we don't have a choice of another "Association" that would give us access to a "MLS" type system. 

8:32pm • #9
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NAR could be better and that is why we need to be sure there are people involved at every level making a difference.  If you get a chance read ripping the roof off real estate, by Molly Wasserman.  She explains it nicely.
9:38pm • #10
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I met one of those Not Always Reliable persons just the other day. They were Nay-saying Another Realtor and had a Negative Attitude, Really.

Your post was Nice And Refreshing

A little R&R (ranting and raging) is good thing sometimes - blow out the pipes, stir the pot, dust off the gray matter. 

10:03pm • #11
DEC
31
2006
Interesting perspective--can't say I totally agree with you but I respect your right to share your thoughts.  If anything, it will assist us in seeing the other side of the coin.
7:06am • #12
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Marcus,

Very well said.  I'm a member of NAR because I have to be and for a small price I don't have to have other REALTORS put me down for not being a member.  It feels like extortion in some ways.  To me it's the price of doing business.  I don't need any code of ethics to keep me on the straight and narrow.  I really wouldn't know if another agent was a REALTOR or not and I don't think the public really cares.  Never in my seven years in the business have I had someone mention anything about my status as a REALTOR.

As far as being depressed about the general image of real estate agents, I look at it as a positive for me.  Most people will use an agent, it's just a matter of them picking the right one.  Use the general negative beliefs to your advantage.  Show people how you are different from the rest.

I work in an office where the majority of agents are really, really nice, honest people.  I am constantly seeing them do the right thing and go out of their way to make things right.  I think it follows the  80/20 rule.  It's just too bad that the 20% is what you hear about the most. 

8:09am • #13
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Marcus,

I checked out your blog and thought the Onion soup for REALTORS(R) was hilarious.  I first wondered what the (R) was but then realized it's the R with a circle thingy that you need to use with REALTOR(R). That's the other thing I hate about using the term.  I always feel guilty when I don't use all capital letters and the R thingy but my keyboard doesn't have that symbol.  I know there is a way I can find that symbol but that is just so much work.  So instead I usually try to avoid the term altogether.  When I do use it I always hope the NAR police don't catch me or some other REALTOR(R)  doesn't turn me in.  I just hope they don't kick me out of the club if they read this. 

8:30am • #14
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 Marcus,

I could care less, I am in because I have to be.

Tim,

Easiest way to use the REALTOR® thingy is to put it in once and cut n paste it.  It is a pain in the butt since I have to open a word document go to insert, go to insert image, copy then paste it here.  You are right it is too much trouble. 

 

 

8:56am • #15
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Marcus,

I posted this comment in response to your comment to me over on my post Does our Ethics Make us Liars
but I wasn't sure if you'd get back there to read it so I've copied it here.

 

I've always said it's not the R that matters but the person ...that said I do believe that the REALTOR® association works to police un ethical behavior...there is a system in place...which may not always work but it's there. I've seen REALTOR®S lose their membership due to Ethics...there are a lot of bad apples out there.

I know if a non-REALTOR® does something unethical to me but it is not unlawful...I have to grin and bear it ..If a REALTOR® does it... I have recourse. I'd rather work with a REALTOR® than and Non-REALTOR® Because they have to abide by the same code of ethics as I do. 

NAR is the largest trade organization in the Nation...I think that says something. Personally I like being able to deduct my mortgage interest..I wish the health insurance bill would pass and appreciate NAR fighting that battle for me.  Overall for me...I see a lot of good in NAR and I'm not stupid...it is not perfect.

So Marcus..if your main point is that the person not the R matters I agree but the rest of your thoughts about NAR or REALTOR®S demonizing sales associates who are not REALTOR®S is off base.

My 2 cents

Happy New Year. 


 

10:13am • #16
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Now....before you all JUMP me...I said I'd rather work with a REALTOR® than and Non-REALTOR® Because they have to abide by the same code of ethics as I do. 

I did not say I would not work with a non-REALTOR®....

10:16am • #17
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Unfortunately - there will always be "politics" in large organizations such as NAR.  I personally believe what they offer for the price they charge is well worth it.
10:51am • #18
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Curious to me that Marcus feels NAR is controlling commissions. It's a bit Big Brother for me Marcus. I'll work with anyone, even a FSBO, but if you are an agent, I am expecting you to abide by the rules of professionalism. I have a hard time wrapping my head around the idea that NAR makes people seem unprofessional. That's bogus, but if you were trying to create a controversy by blogging then so be it, Mary McKnight recommends that lol  I may moan about the dues but I don't moan about the organization itself.

 

 

12:16pm • #19
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Marcus....I just posted a Blog about Why I am a REALTOR

and like Carole...I also think you succeeded in creating a bit of a controversy! 

12:24pm • #20
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Marcus,

Thanks for the post. Clearly the intent was to stimulate dialogue and I believe you are successful in doing so. I am a member because I have no other form of access to the MLS. The partnership forged by NAR, state real estate commission and the local MLS concerns is formidable. The dues I pay NAR and the state real estate commission do nothing to enhance my bottom line. For that matter they do nothing to even generate a prospect. Do the math, the association boasts a million members, that's a lot of money. State real estate commissions likewise are raking in the bucks. What do we get for our money?

1:02pm • #21

Funny, I consider NAR to be a vast source of information. I liken them to an AARP. The fact that our industry is going through radical changes naturally makes NAR a target good,bad or indifferent.

I`m proud of what I do and I love this profession.

1:20pm • #22
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If I am correct I think his point is that NAR says that if you are not a realtor than you are not a good agent and do not have good ethics.  Which I think is a broad statement for them to make.  they insinuate that if you are not a member of their group you are unethical and not a real estate agent under the same rules as those in NAR so therefore more likely to be unscrupulous.  The point is that this is a statement that is not necessarily true.  There are unethical Realtors just as there are ethical non-realtors. 

Because according to NAR he WAS a good agent and now no longer is because he switched brokerages which is ludicrious. 

Saying they are the largest trade organization does not mean much since most members are there because it is requirement of them using the MLS.  It is not 100% voluntary.  I am a Realtor by the way, I just see his points. 

1:54pm • #23
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Oh Jamie - thank you! Finally, someone who actually read and understood the argument and wasn't distracted from my very clear point by all the (admited) fun I had writing it! Carole, NAR is not controlling commissions - that's not the point I'm making at all, but thanks for playing.

And if you think NAR doesn't try to convince the public that non-Realtors are inferior, just take a look at their 2005 ad which trumpets:

"If you see the REALTOR® "R", you know you're working with a professional who does business by a code of ethics, is highly trained and is committed to helping you realize the dream of homeownership. If you don't see the REALTOR® "R", keep looking."

Keep looking? Pass me by? No code of ethics? Not to be trusted? HEY, Come here and say that!

Pretty clear, isn't it?

As for ''highly trained" - um, let me just stitch my sides back together. Surgeons are highly trained. Rocket scientists are highly trained. Going to a bloody 'ethics' class for an hour hardly constitutes 'highly trained'. Talk about overstatement. Or is it just harmless 'spin'? Remember, spin equals untruth - and that's not ethics training friendly! (For "spin" see dictionary - look under "G" as in "Government" - or try "W" for WMOD.) The truth is that real estate agents have about the least training of any profession in the country. Even flight attendants get 7 weeks mandatory training to toss peanuts in your lap (and save your life in the event you choke on one). I got two weeks in a classroom and was immediately let loose on the streets of New York to wreak havoc on an unsuspecting public - who trusted me because I sported the Golden "R".

No, we're not highly trained and it's about time this mutual back-patting ended.

I'm in London for the New Year - which has almost here - I hope everyone has a great 2007 and may the ethics gods look kindly upon all of us. Cheers!

p.s. Keep the comments coming!

3:27pm • #24
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I hope you enjoy your New Year celebration in London; cheers Mate!

As to more thoughts on this subject; NAR's ad campaign is certainly doing more to promote our professionalism than your comments bringing up the stereotypes which in my mind, only represent the smaller percentage of agents orRealtors®- and peer pressure and laws and unsatisfied clients should do what they can to weed them out or get them to improve. I like the ad campaign and I find it to be truthful!

I don't know about you but Ohio has fairly stringent requirements. I understand there are some states that do not; those of you in the industry need to work with your lobbying groups (hello, including NAR) to get the standars for entrance higher where necessary.

I am not an automatic joiner. In fact I usually hate joining anything. I seem to be talking a lot about social contracts all over AR today and I see this in the same vein.  Promoting higher standards can even involve teaching a newer agent/Realtor® along the way when you do a deal with them. Why does everything in this day and age have to be so damn confrontational? Ok I'm done for now LOL

3:49pm • #25

"As far as being depressed about the general image of real estate agents, I look at it as a positive for me.  Most people will use an agent, it's just a matter of them picking the right one.  Use the general negative beliefs to your advantage.  Show people how you are different from the rest."

Tim This seems to work for me

4:50pm • #26
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 Marcus

As I stated in my post We do have ethics that we have to abide by ….non REALTORS don’t. Does that mean that they are unethical…No it doesn’t and no where do I see NAR saying that non REALTORS are unethical. 

I think that is just your interpretation ...Is NAR supposed to promote the image of non-members?? I think not...but I am not going to sit here and try to teach you or even preach to you about NAR...hopefully I can simply reach you somehow ...But I'm sure your mind is set on evil NAR and evil REALTORS...slapping the poor non-member about. 

Have fun in London…


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

5:03pm • #27
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Ladies and Gentlemen:  Let's Rumble!  

I have very much enjoyed the banter on this subject.  Marcus, I almost fell out of my chair laughing after reading your comment about "highly trained"!

7:21pm • #28
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I dont think NAR is evil and I dont believe Marcus does either.  But Marcus has now been kicked out of the "club" for doing nothing.  He can longer represent himself as a REALTOR and not by his own choice.

"If you see the REALTOR® "R", you know you're working with a professional who does business by a code of ethics, is highly trained and is committed to helping you realize the dream of homeownership. If you don't see the REALTOR® "R", keep looking."  I am repasting this here because again his point is that this ad implies he does not follow a code of ethics, isnt highly trained and not committed and consumers should not consider him a professional.    Of course NAR should not and would not promote non-members but in a sense he has now lost some "credibility" and is now on the outside looking in.

The view changes everything. 

I think NAR is a great source of information and they are looking out for us in ways we do not even realize.  But what if for some reason you were no longer able to use its resources by no choice of your own?  Would you be unhappy about the statement above being said referring to your qualifications?  I know I would which is why I pay my dues!!! :)

By the way- I have NEVER had a client ask me the difference.  I hate to say it but doesn't the general public think we are all REALTORS even with the ads? 

8:35pm • #29
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Jamie...Why can't Marcus be a REALTOR? I write my dues check out not my broker...Is that a regulation in his state? That he can only be one if his broker is??? Never heard of that but That would totally stink...big time if that was the case!! Yikes...poor Marcus...now I feel bad for picking on him!!!

And I went and changed my profile picture to make him feel better even if I didn't think being called an Ostrich was a complement...cuz I didn't want him to feel bad for maybe insulting me. 

8:49pm • #30
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What?  Marcus has been banned by the NAR?  How tragic! 

How can he earn a living as a real estate agent without being a realtor®? 

Perhaps we should start up a collection for him!

 

 

9:47pm • #31
JAN
01
2007
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Monika-His blog said that his broker is not a member therefore he cannot be.  He also mentioned a friend in the same position.  She would like to be one but cant because her broker isnt.  I was not aware of this being the case but since he says it is true it must be.

Marcus-Sorry if I kind of hijacked your blog....didnt mean to.  Just thought you needed some backup!  What state are you in?

Russ-He isnt banned per se just cant join because his broker is not a member.

 

8:34am • #32
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I'm going to check that out Jamie...as I don't think that Marcus can't be a REALTOR if he wants to be simply because his broker isn't. I will let you what I find out.
11:18am • #33
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Marcus, I'm sorry I missed this post earlier and had no idea about how arbitrary NAR memberships are.  Like Monika - I am a REALTOR and see the many advantages of being one, but at the same time don't think they should boot you because your broker chooses not to be one.  Please don't misconstrue the message to say that non-Realtor's are unethical, that would not be a fair statement - the same as all REALTORS are ethical - not a fair statement either.  I hope you can work this out - it just does not make sense.  Best Wishes for the New Year!

Ines

12:57pm • #34
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Marcus- fantastic post.  I see your point. Just because you no longer have the Golden R doesn't mean you are less of an agent.  And like Jamie, I have never had a client ask me if I am a Realtor (R) or not. 

Hope you are enjoying your holiday in London. 

2:56pm • #35
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02
2007
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Thats great Monika.  I would love to find out this is some sort of mistake. I know that i would be upset if this happened to me.  How many of us would even have thought to ask a broker this question when switching companies?  I wonder if it is state by state? 
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Hey - I'm back in Orlando now.. so maybe I can help clear this up, since I seem to be the only one who knows what he's talking about! hahahaha..

First of all this is a national, not a local state of affairs - and the facts are as follows: If your broker is not already a member of NAR, then none of his or her sales associates may become members. It's that simple. Conversely, if your broker is a member, then you have little choice but to become a member also. If you do not, then your broker must pay about $350 or so for each of his sales associates who are not members, hence the broker will usually encourage (ie force) you all to join.

This is a.) why i tend to call it blackmail, or, when i'm in a better mood, a closed shop union, and b.) why i was once a member because I had no choice, and why I am no longer a member because I have no choice. So you see, NAR membership for agents is almost entirely dependent upon the broker and is therefore much more arbitrary than most of you seem to think. I am not saying that NAR is a bad organisation to join, I am simply pointing out that you never had any choice and that NAR are less than ethical in my view to suggest that those of us who are not realtors are less than honorable.

The whole tone of this discussion reminds me of how other groups such as religious groups tend to be happy with their choices and tend to think that they made their choices of their own free will - when the fact is that most are simply the product of the culture they were born in. Likewise, Realtors who are happy with their lot and think that they made a conscious choice to join have no understanding that the whole thing was orchestrated for them. Brainwashed though, they are just happy to be where they are and can't imagine life any differently. And this is why there will never be peace in the middle east. (I hope you like the way I moved from one controversial topic to another!) Everyone believes that they are in the right, most ethical camp. NAR is taking advantage of this psychology to divide and conquer both real estate agents and the public.

Peace, out.

8:51am • #37
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Marcus,

I was a member of NAR for many years until two things happened:

1) Lois Hekker of Florida died while in a lawsuit trying to be relieved of the necessity of being a member of NAR in order to sell real estate.

2) In starting our own Company, I did not feel forcing people to become members in the "All or Nothing" choice we are given, was ethichal.

I have some other issues, in particular I believe the DOJ is correct in their position against NAR...but mainly it just reminds me of the Mafia, (not saying I have anything against the Mafia mind you) where you are not allowed to say NO.  No organization should be mandatory.

I will say, however, making it mandatory to be a member of NAR made a whole lot more sense when all agents represented sellers...but no more.  At least not until NAR fully recognizes Buyer Agency in more than monetary terms.

10:49am • #38
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Marcus: You are just too funny with your posts here. I needed some great laughs. Thanks! Ardell: Can you provide any more "background" info re: Lois Hekker?
10:59am • #39
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Oh Ardell... don't even get me started with the DOJ lawsuit. I'm sure half the people here don't even know that NAR is being sued. How ethical is that?! And you know what, I think there's a very good chance NAR will lose. Imagine that, the ''ethical society of america'' found guilty on an anti-trust lawsuit!
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Marcus,

Sorry I'm late interesting post. You are correct you can only join NAR if your broker is a member. I belong because my company belongs but the majority in my market Manhattan do not. The top brokers in NYC are not members of NAR. The consumer could care less and they use the coveted trademark REALTOR® word interchangeably and synonymous with real estate agent. It is used generically by most agents  and consumers in NYC whether or not they are members of the NAR.

NAR has some good resources but I tend to think much of the negative sentiment that consumers have towards real estate brokers is because of NAR. Some of their press releases sound like propaganda. They are often a day late and a dollar short on topical real estate issues. They are the biggest trade association. They are a lobbying organization, they have an agenda. The tobacco industry association also has an agenda they still won't admit that cigarette smoking causes cancer. The NRA, National rifle association says guns don't kill - people do. The Pharmacy lobby is against discount medication for seniors or against buying meds from Canada. Every industry has a lobby to protect their own interests. When I worked in the TV industry we had The NAB, National Association of Broadcasters that for years fought the enemy cable.

All trade associations have an agenda. They are a special interest group. Why haven't they got us group healthcare a million members should be a big enough group.

8:03pm • #41
This has been so interesting. Maybe I should not belong to NAR
Joan Pike
9:40pm • #42
JAN
13
2007

Never too late for an astute observation like that Mitchell! I think part of the problem is that most real estate agents aren't half as bright as they think they are. They forget that you don't even need a high school diploma to do this job. Not only that, so many of them forget the first rule of marketing: Never believe your own publicity. Thanks again.

Marcus
2:28pm • #43
JUN
14
2008

Marcus,

Your statement about not even needing a high school diploma (or any education) to do this job is totally false. I am in the process of obtaining my real estate license in Texas. I am in college taking Principles of Real Estate which will fulfill 60 classroom hours out of the required 210 hours. The 210 classroom hours equates to about 16 college credit hours - 5 classes (Semesters). Even after I finish the classes, I have to take the exam and pass.

Other than this, I found this blog to be quite entertaining and informative.

Teri

 

Teri in Texas
8:55pm • #44

Sure, but what's that got to do with not needing a HS diploma Teri? This may change in the near future but right now in most states, you don't need to do anything other than pass the real estate exam... about 2 weeks of education. Come on, I did 5 WEEKS back in the day just to be a flight attendant with American Airlines!

Marcus Burke
9:49pm • #45
APR
19

I do not want to be a member of NAR. I want to sell real estate to people, not pay to join a commune. I cannot find a broker in CT who is  not a member to join with. I have serious ethical problems with becoming a member again. Anyone who believes you are a better agent because you pay gobs of money to NAR has drunk too much koolaid. Everyone I know is a member to get MLS access, thats it. They know that.

Why cant we get enough people to boycott?

Hey does anyone know anyone in CT or MA that is a nonNAR broker? I may lose my license if I dont find one by the end of MAY.

loridavenport@yahoo.com

Lori
4:57pm • #46

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