Observations on the Housing 'Crisis'.

In the past month or so, I've talked with economists from the California and National Association of Realtors, Dr. John Husing, the CEO's of Coldwell Banker, Prudential and Re/Max as well as a Deputy Director of the FED. They are all in agreement on the housing situation - they don't know what in hell is going on either. But I've panned a few nuggets from these conversations that might help you better understand where we are and allow you to make more informed decisions on your own housing questions.

#1 - All Housing Is Local. Every market is different with its own unique challenges and opportunities. It's a lot like the weather. It doesn't much matter what's happening in Atlanta or Altoona. That doesn't have anything to do with the weather in California. In fact even the weather in Northern California has little to do with whether the sun's shining in your back yard this afternoon. 

Local job growth, housing availability and mortgage fraud determine what your home will sell for today, not how things are in Detroit or Dallas. The ‘national real estate market' is an invention of the mainstream media in an effort to simplify their job and your understanding. Get the facts on things that impact our local market and don't worry that the French aren't buying sub-prime loan paper anymore.

#2 The Media Reports The News - Not Necessarily The Facts. We all know that good news doesn't sell papers. That's why death, disaster and alien abductions are front page features, depending on what you watch or read. The media started predicting the ‘real estate bubble' four years ago. Ooooooh my, it's ready to blow, it's all over - that was 2003. Housing set a record that year for highest number of sales, new homes built and median price hikes. The media was irritated so the next year they redoubled their efforts - twice the doom & gloom per page, bigger bubble, bigger pop, more devastation and chaos. That was 2004 when housing again broke all previous records for sales, prices and new construction.

The media was livid - nobody was buying their story. They were buying houses instead. So they piled on the downsides again - bubbles blowing, hang on, calamity & calumny, right now - whoops - 2005 was another record breaker. More people became homeowners, prices jumped some more - the media was apoplectic.

Guess what - it's 2007 and the media is still wrong. There never was a bubble and it has not burst, there is no nationwide housing crises and the market has not collapsed but you'll never hear that from mainstream media sources. And the few things they were right about were for the wrong reasons.  They're like that psychic predicting the demise of a hundred year old actor year after year after year. Finally the old dude dies and the psychic says, ‘See, I predicted that way back in January.'

So for your mental health, take anything you read or hear in the media (excepting this very enlightened columnist) with a grain of salt, or preferably a shot of Jack Daniels. It'll make just as much sense and you'll enjoy it a lot more.

#3. All Real Estate Is Cyclical. If you live on the left coast, the right coast or the bottom coast, real estate goes in cycles. If you live anywhere people want to live, real estate goes in cycles. We've just been through a ten year run of good fortune - in fact between 2001 and 2005 Riverside County was the fastest appreciating housing market in the country at 155%. But it couldn't go on that way indefinitely.

So now we're in a correction phase - taking a breather, adjusting our affordability, working on some lender problems and some Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac issues. If you don't like real estate cycles, then you need to move out to middle America where prices go up ½% a year like clockwork and there's no boom cycle or bust cycle, no 155% bump, no 20% drop. But you live in California where every 4-8 years we repeat this same cycle. You'd think sooner or later you'd figure it out and stop yelling about the sky falling, for heavens sake.

As I've reminded you before, the fundamentals are all in place. Riverside County continues to be one of the largest creators of new jobs in the country. Another 500,000 people will move to California next year, as they have for the past two decades - and again we'll only build enough houses for about 2/3 of them (that's a housing crises, folks). Interest rates remain near historic lows with the Fed likely to cut rates again by the time you read this. There are more homes to choose from than at anytime in my memory of this market so your chances of finding just the right place are excellent.

And don't believe for a minute that there are no loans available - there is money going begging for borrowers right now but they're the ‘old fashioned' kind of loans where you might need an actual down payment and you might have to show you actually have a job and can pay the bank back. The loans that have gone away are those sub-prime, neutron loans - the kind that destroy people but leave the houses intact.

If you're thinking about becoming a homeowner, there's no time like the present to get your piece of the American Dream. Snooze through this cycle and you'll be kicking yourself in a couple years. And I'll still be here to remind you.

Gene Wunderlich is a Realtor with Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage. Got an opinion? Share it with GeneWunderlich@earthlink.net

 

30 Comments on Observations on the Housing 'Crisis'.

You make some good points. it will take time to people to readjust to being more conserative in spending and having to save. The housing prices were just getting too high for the incomes. Something had to give. Our problems have nothing to do with sub-prime and adjustable rates.

12/13/2007 07:15 PM by Eric Bouler (Prudential Gardner)


This is a very well written article. You are absolutely correct in your observations. I am a mortgage professional and I personally have never seen so much business. The local housing markets in NY are doing just fine. Values are steady and while less people are purchasing SFR's more people are purchasing rental properties such as a 4-plex as they recognize that there are more available renters... Any way you look at it most real estate markets are doing just fine.

12/13/2007 07:24 PM by Christopher Ohlsen (Lake City Mortgage)


I was talking with a retired stock broker friend of mine at a dinner party, and of course he asked how business was (with a sad look on his face). I said it's not as bad as people think, but it's certainly challenging. I chimed in that I had read that it would continue to get worse throughout 08, but I didn't think so.

Now he felt that 08 would likely be a great year, then would be followed by a slow year. Based on his market exerience (I'm no stock wizard, thats for sure) that during an election year both parties do all they can to stimulate the economy and lower the rates, so all markets boom on election years. Then he claimed after the elections, things will begin plummeting due to so much government re-organization. I do see the rates dropping lower and lower as 08 approaches.

12/13/2007 08:29 PM by Michael Creel (Brio Realty Inc.)


Thanks for an interesting post.  I agree with much of what you say and do hope that your area of California rebounds quickly.  I'm finding that mortgage money is definitely not hard to find--I just don't like some of the rates I'm seeing.

12/13/2007 09:17 PM by Diane Bell, Hilton Head Real Estate, Bluffton (Charter 1 Real Estate, Hilton Head, Bluffton, SC)


Good post. Thanks for sharing. Let us hope that everyone has a rebound in the near future.

12/13/2007 10:30 PM by Bob & Carolin Benjamin - E Phoenix Arizona Real Estate (The Benjamin Team - Keller Williams Integrity First Realty )


Gene,

The media certainly has got the public all scared. There is a correction under way in many areas, but that's what it is, a correction, and then the markets will return to normal again. Corrections provide great buying opportunities as we are seeing now.

12/13/2007 11:17 PM by Esko Kiuru - Las Vegas NV Mortgage Consultant (Sinifox Financial)


They are all in agreement on the housing situation - they don't know what in hell is going on either.

What's going on is simple. It's happened in the past and will happen again.

The market is experiencing a reversion to mean. A reckless Federal Reserve created a massive credit bubble, leading to stupid, easy money, which drove house prices to historic relational - and unsustainable - levels.

The good news is: that instability is being corrected as I type. Prices are falling. fast.

Rate cuts will not help. Lax lending standards will not help. Saint Christophers buried in the front yard will not help. Denial will not help. Ditto for visualization and daily Doctor Phil daily affirmations. What will help?

Prices need to fall back to the mean. Once that has happened, healthy, sustainable growth can return.

"Where exactly are prices headed?" Go back to pre-bubble, 2000/2001, and adjust for inflation. That's where the mean is.  That's where prices are headed. Once there, we can start growing again.

12/13/2007 11:47 PM by Robert Kerr (Kerr Financial)


Very well written. I hope the public in your area reads this.

12/14/2007 12:55 AM by Portland Oregon Real Estate >> Wayne B. Pruner, GRI (Oregon First)


One thing for sure, a lot of amateur new home real estate investors are now out of the market.  Replaced unfortunately with another group, the foreclosure real estate investor.  Folks seem to believe that if a house is bank owned, it's a good investment.  They don't understand that the discount is for condition. 

Very thoughful post.

Thanks.

12/14/2007 08:29 AM by Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Real Estate


Gene-

Excellent post, reality returns.

12/14/2007 08:52 AM by Tim Ross (Re/Max Associates Plus)


Gene, what a way to get back into blogging...with a feature! I can see why it was featured; it's so full of wonderful information.

I came by to say, "Hi". Tom sent me! Welcome back to Active Rain! I look forward to getting to know you!

12/14/2007 09:36 AM by Linda Scanlan ~Selling All of North Texas (Hall Team Homes)


Great observations.  The national media is doing the housing industry no favors.  Real estate will always be local. . .sweeping generalizations about the country are inaccurate.  I would love to read a column like this in the papers!

12/14/2007 09:43 AM by Lori Gilmore - Will County Illinois Realtor (Radcliffe Realty)


Thanks for a great article.  Looking forward to more of the same.  I think your exactly right about the media. I always tell my clients great time to buy! Low intereset rates & sellers are slashing prices.

12/14/2007 10:39 AM by barbara Klein


The greatest impact on this market right now is credit.  Tightening of the credit market has limited the pool of available buyers.  Negative sentiment exasperated by the media is only increasing momentum of home value erosion.  I agree that housing is local, but even in strong markets you're seeing a decline in pricing.  I agree that there are deals right now due to panic, and loans are available at reasonable rates - but to discount the current situation as purely media driven is whistling through the graveyard.  Strangely, even with all the huge writedowns by banks, borrowers can still obtain loans with limited/no income or asset documentation and in many cases no appraisals assuming you have excellent credit.  No one wants to catch a falling knife, but at some point it will stop falling.  I agree the media is a joke, but the market isn't.

Best of luck.       

"Guess what - it's 2007 and the media is still wrong. There never was a bubble and it has not burst"

A real estate bubble or property bubble (or housing bubble for residential markets) is a type of economic bubble that occurs periodically in local or global real estate markets. It is characterized by rapid increases in the valuations of real property such as housing until they reach unsustainable levels relative to incomes and other economic indicators, followed by decreases that can result in many owners holding negative equity (a mortgage debt higher than the value of the property). Unlike a stock market crash following a bubble, a real-estate "crash" is a slow process, because sellers just decide not to sell. Historically due to inflation, prices did not fall in nominal terms, rather they stayed "flat" for a period of 3-5 years. However, due to low inflation in most countries, future corrections may result in a fall in both real and nominal house values.

12/14/2007 11:07 AM by David Conaway (First Horizon Home Loan Corporation)


Good points, Gene. Especially about snoozing through this cycle. Prices in Southern Oregon like many other areas outpaced incomes for the area. Recent opportunities have presented themselves for first time homebuyers who missed the boat a few years back. We're loading 'em up, and rowing like crazy now! Who wouldn't buy in Southern Oregon when Oregon Bond Loan offers 5.125% and there are down payment assistance programs available? Hope your area is keeping these programs funded for your area buyers.

12/14/2007 11:54 AM by Karen Cooper - Quality Home Loans, Inc.


great post. its too bad the media will never report anything as well researched as this blog post.

12/14/2007 07:03 PM by Trevor Ainsworth- Burlington Vermont Real Estate (Century 21 Jack Associates)


Thanks for all the positive comments. I'll post another blog I did sometime back about the media but as Lawrence Yun (NAR) summarized, major media is headquartered in NY. Major financial markets are headquartede in NY. Realtors are headquartered in Chicago. The media guys ride the train, have lunch, have drinks, ride the sub with the financial guys every day. You think the finance guys are going to put a positive spin on housing as an investment vehicle? All they get fed is the bad rap and then sensationalize that. Can't really blame them - most of them have neither the time nor talent to do the in depth research necessary to present a broad view that people understand.

It's like the,other blog I read on here today about the today show and the head of Redfin - the media reports the news - not the facts, and they only do a half fast job of that.  

 

12/14/2007 07:31 PM by Gene Wunderlich - Selling Southwest California Homes / Temecula & Murrieta (Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage)


Well said.

12/14/2007 07:45 PM by CS


Yes, the media has such a pull on people...emotion plays a big part in the Stock Market, Housing, etc...

12/14/2007 11:02 PM by Taunya Fagan Bozeman Homes & Land (The Bozeman Real Estate - Prudential Montana Real Estate)


Excellent post, Gene.  Thanks for putting it on the line and into perspective!  Wish you had been on the Today show instead of Redfin.

12/14/2007 11:06 PM by Shelby Morris (Realty Exchange)


Excellent post.

I believe the big players, lenders, who are standing on the sideline are now in the arena. There are cases where investors are buying bulks buy from lenders instead of REO sales. Investors are asking 60-70 cent on the dollar and some lenders that I dealt with can go as low as 55 cent on the dollar. With overages of inventories, the housing market is in the road to recovery faster than it should be. Once over supply of homes are off the market, we should have a stable housing market.

12/15/2007 12:20 AM by Tuan Tran


The media feeding frenzy of fear is going over the top. Our market in Canada is doing great but the people are nervous because of what they hear the media and online news reporting. Not always well researched knowledgeable articles but sensationilized. We also are looking to a great year on the coast of British Columbia Canada.

12/15/2007 03:16 AM by Clark Hitchcock Fraser Valley Realtor (Re/Max Nyda Realty Inc)


Robert - When I said they don't know what's going on it's a bit of an oversimplification. What they find curious is that while the correction is absolutely necessary and not totally unanticipated, this is the first time that a downturn in the housing market has occurred almost in a vacuum. Past downturns have been precipitated by rampant job loss and/or other major blows to the economy. This time the economy is chuggin along pretty well but houses dropped anyway. Thanks for the comments.

David - I agree that the media is not wholly to blame for our current situation but they've certainbly exacerbated the problems. It would have been nice if they would have been warning people 2 or 3 years ago to look more carefuly at these NINJA loans instead of doing features on how easy it was for anybody with a pulse to buy an overpriced home w/ no money down. I'm still mixed on the whole bubble situation whether it's a bubble or just part of that natural cycle. Areas that climb like rockets, drop the fastest. Mid-America barely fluctuates.

Tuan - In some areas we have a real serious oversupply problem - especially bank-owned homes. But I'm equally concerned about some of the quick-fix schemes and bail-outs. We get these knee-jerk polital reactions to problems that not only don't address the underlying problem - they actually make it worse. If banks and individuals don't take some responsibility for their actions, we'll only have a worse time of it next time around. Thanks for the comments.

12/15/2007 01:06 PM by Gene Wunderlich - Selling Southwest California Homes / Temecula & Murrieta (Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage)


 

 

Gene -

I'm 60 miles south of you, in San Diego, and I do know the market in Murrieta and Temecula pretty well.

 

You may have one of the worst real estate markets in the country, from Temecula up to Perris.   Things will get better, sooner of later, but there really was a bubble in your area.   When houses that were selling for $600,000 in 2005 are now selling for $400,000, I don't know what else to call it.

 

 

 

12/16/2007 09:29 AM by J. Ornelas


All good points. We have to stay convinced that this market will turn around. If we dont who will.

12/16/2007 11:16 AM by Robert L. Brown~Grand Rapids Real Estate Flexit Realty, West Michigan (www.mrbrownsellsgr.com)


j. Ornelas - It's true we're among the worst markets right now. Our sales are off 70+% from 2005 and prices have dropped by more than 1/3 in some areas. At the same time our inventory is 4 times what it was 18 months ago. Great time to buy and getting better by the day. Bring your buyers on up (or send them to me - I could use the boost).

Part of the reason for the huge price swings is the rampant mortgage fraud we experienced. 2 companies alone did over 200 deals, plus a lot of smaller copy-cat's. These people would come into a neighborhood and offer 600,000 on a 500,000 listing w/ 100k going back to the buyers agent. After doing 2 or 3 of these in a neighborhood, they created their own comps so that even homes that were not fraudulently purchased were subject to inflated comps. Now that those neighborhoods have 1/2 to 2/3 of their homes in foreclosure, the artificially inflated purchase price results in artificially deflated values - a nice double whammy.

12/16/2007 12:30 PM by Gene Wunderlich - Selling Southwest California Homes / Temecula & Murrieta (Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage)


Gene:

I have been in the Real Estate Business for 31 years and I totally agree with you. Each market is a different market; especially in California.

I work in San Diego and even-though I never advised my Buyers to take adjustable mortgages, especially since fixed rates were so close to the adjustables, I did a lot of no income verification loans. What I was sure to ask my clients was "Can you afford to make this payment (PITI) and still have enough income to pay all your expenses, doctors, medicines, food, etc. and have money left? If the answer was a definite yes,  I would look for the best fixed rate loan and put them in touch with that lender. So far, none of my many Buyers have defaulted. Instead their homes values went through the roof. Homes that I sold for $600,000 are now $ 1,500,000.

Without these type of loans Real Estate will falter for many people; especially self employed borrowers. I presently have a situation with a Buyer that is purchasing 2 units at an excellent price, he is putting down 16%, has a credit score of 760 and I am having problems obtaining a no income verification loan because he has limited credit. He owns two units that I sold him 5 years ago. He has never been late in his payments but because of his limited credit (only his home mortgage) I am encountering problems obtaining a loan. 

Why does it have to be either black or white. I believe that, because of the rash of short sales and foreclosures, lenders have taken stupid precautions. FICOS of 680 or no loan? That is stupid. This could kill the already saturated market in Real Estate. Any comments?

12/16/2007 03:32 PM by Isaac Bensussen-www.besthomesinlajolla.com


 

You're right, Gene - that the fraud has caused a double-whammy.   I have followed it closely in the North County Times and the P-E.   Hopefully some of those crooks will be in jail soon.

Possibly prices have gone down enough in parts of the Inalnd Empire that investors will srart buying.

12/16/2007 03:37 PM by J. Ornelas


Here, Here:

I recently attended the California Realtor Association symposium up in Los Angeles in late October 2007 and it was the first that was being held in the State, and the out come is that the local economist Leslie Appleton-Young with CAR stated that the local market for us in California will be tough for the next 3-5 years. Its amazing how some like the truth sugar coated, and other want it straight up, I listen to the other speakers that endorsed her views on this upcoming market. They all said that if you did not have XXX amount of transactions in 2007 that it was in your best interest to get out of the business and get back in when things start to pick up. With NAR having 400,000 agents this year that have not had a listing or a sale, I would say that with dues and all sort of fee at this time of year becoming due we will see many agents re-think staying in th business.

Lorraine

 

12/17/2007 10:05 AM by Lorraine ---Crescent Moon Realty, Inc.


Isaac - There is/was absolutely a place for sub-prime loans. I fault the federal gov't. to an extent because we've been trying for years to get FHA loan limits raised for high cost areas like SoCal. 362,000 or even 417,000 don't help much when your median price is over 500k. So that opened the door for sub-prime. Plus as you said, a lot of people were able to get a home that would otherwise have been frozen out. Even if 20% of those loans default, that still leaves 80% of new homeowners who may be eating beans for a couple years but they're eating beans in their own homes. Our parents used to call that 'opportunity'.

Lorraine - I'm always amazed too. Leslie is always very good, sometimes even too optimistic, yet I hear Realtors saying she shouldn't be so forthcoming. I even had one agent in my office tell me she should be strung up for her latest forecast - too pesimistic. Amazing. How can you expect either ourselves or our clients to make smart decisions if you start with bad information? I think the media has sensationalized the problem and made it worse than it actually is, but I rely on Leslie, Dr. Yun and others for facts and reality. A little smoke up the kazoo is OK from time to time, but I'll take reality any day.

I think CAR is forecasting a 10% - 15% drop in agents this year. I think that would be a good thing. As one writer put it - return the market to the professionals. Better for us, better for the clients.

12/17/2007 12:24 PM by Gene Wunderlich - Selling Southwest California Homes / Temecula & Murrieta (Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage)


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