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Realtor Referral Misnomers and Washington State Laws

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Home Inspector with NICKELSEN HOME INSPECTIONS - Vancouver WA Home Inspector

Just about 2-3 times a week I get a contact from a client who says, "My relator gave me a list of inspectors and said that it was against the Law for her to refer one, so I am contacting everyone on the list," or "I asked my realtor for a home inspection referral and she said it was against the Law for her to refer anyone, so I found you on the internet," or I will hear from a realtor that "It is against the Law for me to refer a single home inspector" or "it is against the Law for me to refer home inspectors", etc.

All of these statements have one thing in common: they are all inaccurate.

Let me be very frank, then more detailed: there are absolutely no Washington State Laws which say or suggest that a Realtor can not or should not refer a home inspector.

Now to the detail...

Not only are there no laws in the State of Washington prohibbiting a realtor from referring home inspectors or even a single home inspector, but, rather there are laws which assume that it is done as common practice.

In January of 2009 Washington State enacted a Law which states that the Realtor must disclose "business" or "familial" relationships with their clients when referring a home inspector.  Catch that?  The law assumes that a referral is given: it just says that the Realtor must disclose "business" or "familial" relationships.  (see: RCW 18.85.035 and WAC 308-124C-050)

Now, what is a "familial" relationship?  That is simple: it is one established when one has a family relationship with the home inspector, or vice versa.  If the home inspector is the agent's husband, cousin, or brother-in-law, that relationship must be disclosed to the consumer.

So, what about this "business" relationship?  When the Law came out I immediately (within days... and I still have the emails...) contacted the Department of Licensing (DOL): Real Estate Division stating that they needed to define what constituted a "business relationship" requireing disclosure or that they would have offices or associations establishing bylaws or in-house policies that were not intended by the (actual) Law itself: namely, you would have offices or associations saying that "if you have referred a home inspector in the past you must disclose this because it is a business relationship".  Immediately I received an email back from the DOL Real Estate Division that said business relationships were not established by the mere presence of past referrals to the home inspector.  Rather, the intent of the Law was to have disclosure when the agent and inspector had worked together in past business (say the inspector was at one time the agent's partner and did real estate together), or if the agent had listed the inspector's house for a real estate transaction, or the agent had sold the home inspector his house, or the home inspector inspected the agent's house when the agent bought a house, etc.  Any way you cut it, "business relationship" was not and is not having referred a home inspector in the past.

I thought that was all fine and well, but I still contended that if the DOL didn't come out with a written clarification you would have offices establishing in-house policies and bylaws that were not intended by the DOL.  And many offices in fact did.  For example one office has the agents bring up this disclosure form to the client and I have seen the agent say to the buyer when they are going over this paper, "I am required to notify you that I have a business relationship with the inspector because I have referred them in the past."  Nope.  That is not correct.  That is not a "business relationship", per the DOL.

In the Spring/Summary DOL Real Estate Division newsletter they came out with a written statement saying that "business relationships" were not constituted by the mere presence of past referrals.  If you would like a copy of it, please email me at nickelsenhomeinspections(at)gmail(dot)com and I will send it to you.  I also have Washington State approved real estate continuing education class notes (the actual notes in PDF format) which say the same thing (again, email me and I would be happy to provide you with a copy).

So, the State assumes referrals.  You must disclose family or business relationships, but business relationships are not established by the mere presence of past referrals.

But the misnomers continue...

Here is another common one, "Washington Law requires that I give out three business cards or three names of inspectors."  Nope. Again, there are no Washington State Laws which say this.  None whatsoever.  There are offices in this area that have the Realtors fill out these forms with three inspection companies on it that they give to the client so that they can satisfy these "law requirements".  In fact, in one office the agent will not get paid unless they turn in the paper showing that they referred three inspectors.  Let me be clear: there is no law in the State of Washington that says the agent must refer three inspectors.  None at all.  None whatsoever.  Now... can an office or an association say that this is their "policy"?  Sure.  But, call a cow a "cow" and a horse a "horse": don't say that it is the "law" when it isn't "the law".

So...

1.   No Law in the State of Washington prohibits the Realtor from referring home inspectors.

2.   No Law  in the State of Washington prohibits the Realtor from referring a single home inspector.

3.   No Law in the State of Wasington says that the realtro must refer three home inspectors.

4.   No Law in the State of Washington says that the realtor must disclose that they have a business relationship with the home inspector they referred simply beacuse they have referred them in the past.

5.  If an agent has worked directly with a home inspector in the past they must disclose this.

6.  If an agent has hired a home inspector in the past for their own home inspection, etc., they must disclose this.

7.  If an agent has worked for a home inspector before, either selling their home or selling them a home, they must disclose this.

Questions class?

UPDATE:

One person said that Form 41D is a clear indication that Washington State in fact DOES have a Law requiring that realtors disclose if they have worked with the inspector in the past, under the pretence that this is a "business relationship", and, this person, also said that the form has 3 inspectors slots, thus requiring that three inspectors be referred.  Response:  The form in question is http://www.larspeterson.com/agentnorthwest/nwmlsforms/Form41D.pdf .  This is a NWMLS Form, not Washington State Law.  Second, Form 41D may well have been written in response to the Laws in question (RCW 18.85.035 and WAC 308-124C-050), that doesn't mean that it is 1) accurate, or 2) reflects actual "Law".  That said, a Realtor may very well need to follow their "office policies" or "association by-laws", such as those of NWMLS.  That said, Form 41D doesn't say "what" is a business relationship, though the STATE HAS.  As such, the form could be left EMPTY (by Law).  Further, the three slots do NOT mean that you must refer three inspectors: it is just three slots so that if you want to refer three inspectors, you have them.  It doesn't preclude one from referring 400 inspectors, though that would be a b#### to have to write out!  NOW, again, I must emphasize that an individual realtor may belong to an association or work at an office that requires the agent to refer three inspectors and disclose that they have refered the inspector in the past.  My point is simple: there is no "law" in the State of Washington that says a Realtor MUST refer three inspectors, and there is no "law" in the State of Washington that says a Realtor has to disclose as a "business relationship" a home inspector they have simply referred in the past.  

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Justin - thank you very much for this very useful and inmformative blog. I guess it is not that there is a law, it is a way of protecting ourselves, and trying to be perceived as impartial.

But this makes a lot of sense. Why we can refer an real estate agent, but not the inspector, or appraiser?

Mar 21, 2012 01:12 PM
Elite Home Sales Team
Elite Home Sales Team OC - Corona del Mar, CA
A Tenacious and Skilled Real Estate Team

It is common when their may be some rules that a brokerage may have and the agent assumes it is a law.  We as agents need to know the difference.

Mar 21, 2012 01:15 PM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Justin, I agree, however if the brokerages have "rules" that their agents must follow---it is for all intents and purposes what they must do.  The disction is going to be a moot point for all but the independent agents---that work for no one but themselves.

Mar 22, 2012 05:00 AM
Justin Nickelsen
NICKELSEN HOME INSPECTIONS - Vancouver WA Home Inspector - Vancouver, WA
CMI - (p 360.907.9648), Vancouver/Portland/WA/OR Home Inspector

I am wondering (given some of these comments, but more from other social media applications and email) whether people are reading what I have written before responding.

At least three times I noted that there is a difference between Law and "office policy"/"association bylaw".

While I concur it may be a moot point, my clauses and distinctions were well defined and intended to focus on one thing and one thing only: The Law.  

On that, "my point", it isn't moot.  When an Agent cites "Washington State Law" as the "reason" why they must do or must not do X, Y or Z then they should be able to point to a "Law" that says as much.  If they can't, then they should simply point to their office policy or association bylaw, which is an entierly different thing.

As an aside, I don't think it is too much to ask of Agents that they be mildly thoughtful and intellectually engaged in their industry: it is an unfortunate truth that many are not. 

Mar 22, 2012 05:08 AM
Justin Nickelsen
NICKELSEN HOME INSPECTIONS - Vancouver WA Home Inspector - Vancouver, WA
CMI - (p 360.907.9648), Vancouver/Portland/WA/OR Home Inspector

Interestingly, ActiveRain immediately removed my points for this blog post, with no reason given.  I find that very odd: it is obvious that the content is not only mine, but is well thought, and is obviously important enough that I have 21 Facebook "likes" (within 10 minutes of posting it).  I have twice requested clarification from ActiveRain for the reason they removed the points, and they are not responding...

Mar 22, 2012 05:16 AM
Kerrie La Guardia
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Hi Justin, thanks for using our ticket system and please know that it may take up to 24 hours before you hear an answer.  We also have live team members available from 9am-5pm Pacific, Monday through Friday at 1-888-643-3837 so don't ever hesitate to use it should you need an answer sooner. 

The reason your points have been removed is because the "This is not my content but I have permission to post it" box was checked.  Anytime that box is checked the point total will always equate to zero.  From your comment, this sounds like it may have been done mistakenly and I will certainly go in and fix that for you. 

Lots of good content here Justin, keep on blogging!

Mar 22, 2012 07:36 AM
Justin Nickelsen
NICKELSEN HOME INSPECTIONS - Vancouver WA Home Inspector - Vancouver, WA
CMI - (p 360.907.9648), Vancouver/Portland/WA/OR Home Inspector

Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mar 23, 2012 02:05 AM
John Cameron
VITUS Realty, LLC - Seattle, WA
Real Estate Investing Seattle Tacoma

Good post.  I often wondered where and what the big deal was with the whole inspector referral was.  I have a problem with the 3 referral of inspectors when it's required by my office.  

Mar 31, 2012 03:58 AM
Anonymous
Carolyn

Hello!

    We recently had a house inspection done for the sale of our home.  We were told to leave for the inspection, so we did.  When we returned home, my son was walking around the back of our car and started yelling at his dad to stop the garage door.  The garage door top panel was split at the top bending and the door wasn't going to close all the way without it probably snapping!   We were so upset that they did something to ruin our door!  THank gosh our son said something intime before anyone got hurt.  We called our agent immediatly who called the buyers agent.  Of course, he knew nothing about it because he came and let the inspector into our house and left and i guess later on the buyers came also.  So they are claiming the door was broke already and its a big he said she said situation.  Funny how no one has ever said our door was broke before or any other ppl who have looked at it.  They also took a tool, maybe a screwdriver and flaked up the grout by the front door and saying the grout is bad.   Who allows ppl alone in a home, to rip it apart and do damage?  now of course we are left to fix the door?  I had read that someone said in WA state that its against the NWMLS rules to open the house and leave? is this true?  

Thanks so much,

Carolyn

Nov 07, 2012 03:58 AM
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