We all know the drama agents: they suffer, exult, despair, rejoice. Some days they sweep into the office, other days they lurch about with endless complaints about clients and the business.  These agents can be oh-so helpful in the beginning of a client relationship, but when the drama agent creates a Drama Triangle, the break downs can be ugly and painful for everyone involved 

The Drama Triangle was defined by psychologist Steven B. Karpman in 1968 and has been an essential element of inter-personal and corporate training ever since. 

The Drama Triangle Participants

The Persecutor abuses power over another by knowing better.

The Rescuer abuses power by “saving” instead of empowering others.

The Victim/Martyr abuses power by claiming to be powerless, therefore not accountable or responsible.

 

 

Participants in these Drama Triangles change roles often, even in a single conversation. The challenge for the unwilling participants is staying centered, rather than drawn into the drama.

Many real estate agents are proud to be professional "problem solvers" and that's good when it's a quick transaction. But when listings last months or even years, when buyers shop for months and deals are difficult to close, sometimes our worst personal traits emerge and take over. In real estate it's usually the  "Rescuer" type who accelerates normal difficulties into major challenges that only the Rescuer can solve, but simultaneously uses the sledge-hammer of Victim-hood to compel people to recognize his worth and contributions.

For example, last month when a seller's attorney and I walked into late Friday afternoon closing the buyer's agent pushed her chair back and loudly announced "we have a major problem":  at the walk-through, they lifted the phone receiver and...and...wait for it...the ATT service was still on. Why hadn't it been turned off so ATT could come on Monday to set up internet service?  AND she wanted proof that Nicor had visited the property to examine the supposedly defective meter. AND they couldn't find the manuals for the appliances... AND ... AND ...her buyer and her buyer's attorney squirmed.

The seller's attorney muttered "you handle her" and left the room....I couldn't blame him, it was late in the day, this should have been an easy-peasy closing and she still going at it. 

Throughout the transaction this agent repeatedly found and then "fixed" problems for her clients. She found mold that was really ink marks in attic rafters, used the worst home inspector ever (but didn't attend the inspection), didn't explain "relo=as-is" to the buyer, declared a "clear to close"  3 days before the underwriter and asked for pre-possession. In addition to violating license law at every turn, she created constant rounds of agitation between the buyer, the attorneys, me and my already-relocated seller.

I can see why it took her 2 years to find these people a house (yes, they were relatives) and get them to the closing table. I had to deliberately fend off her Drama Triangles for six straight weeks to get the deal done, but I could feel myself slipping more than once. I myself was prone to this behavior during a difficult time in my personal life.  Looking back, it was a combination of therapy and real estate coaching that taught me how to manage myself and other dramatists in the business.

Many people who live in a series of Drama Triangles experienced abusive childhoods or abusive personal relationships in early adulthood. The deeply insecure person who swings from Victim/Martyr to Rescuer to Persecutor is the engine of a Drama Triangle.  

In a Drama Triangle there is always a scapegoat: the "banksters", the "fraudsters", the evil-doers at Zillow....the list is endless for the person who craves the Drama Triangle. The phone company, the Democrats, the appraisers, the REO agents, the Yankees, the Mexicans....there is always someone who can be publicly castigated for the evils of the world.

Facebook and blogging are prime venues for the dramatist who craves excitement, sympathy and recognition. But as we've all seen, any dissension when the dramatist is entrenched in full-scale victim hood is tricky. If you are a Rescuer and have agreed and soothed too many times but then disagree even once? The Victim become a Persecutor and the next attack could be directed at you, pushing you into your own Victim role if you're not careful.

The Victim-Persecutor-Rescuer cycle is powerful but it can be prevented or at least managed. Whether it's the agent on your team who is the "crap magnet" or the client who pulls you in, sucks you down and wants to keep you there with him, you can learn to keep boundaries around your "self" to stay healthy and sane. 

 

There are hundred of articles and studies on this subject. A few references if you're interested:

Wikipedia: The Karpman Drama Triangle

Melody Brooke "The Cycle of Compassion"

Rich Casto: The Real Estate Coaching Company Training with Rich in 2008 and 2009 changed my business and my life. It's where I first heard about the Drama Triangle and "pop", the light bulb went on...and stayed on. Thanks, Rich.

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Wait.  I thought the drama triangle was my mom, my sister, and my baby momma.  :)  

Not a huge fan of the drama.  Very nice breakdown Leslie.  

7:36am • #52
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Leslie, I have never heard of this. Thankfully, I have never experienced this with another agent. I could see where it might be difficult to get the deal closed.

8:09am • #53
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Hi Leslie, I've never heard of this Drama Triangle either but do love your examples. I've had to deal with drama "couple team" once. Very annoying for sure. I knew they were sitting there "puffing" in front of their client. Man, I sure wish at the time I was able to call their bluff and tell them to walk. Like Jennifer (#1) so wisely pointed out, each side of the triangle is sharp..

8:15am • #54
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No matter what the endeavor there is drama. Bring Freud with you at all times. Always bring water to a fire......except for the exceptions.
8:18am • #55
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Hi Leslie, this really helps.  I've seen these personalty traits but I haven't placed a label on them.  Putting labels on these players will certainly assist me when dealing with them in the future.

8:59am • #56
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My broker is always reminding his agents, " Lets's work in a drama-free zone". And we do!
10:07am • #57

I had to think hard, and reference the triangle regularly, while reading your post ... I've never heard of it before and it's definitely interesting.  I hate working with that type of personality and avoid them as much as possible.  They're part of the 2% that aren't worth doing business with.

10:08am • #58
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Wow excellent post on the subject.  I also have not heard of this but have seen it so many times its crazy.  Sometimes it is easiest for us to just stay on point and keep everything else out of the equation (if possible)

10:42am • #59
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Hi Again Leslie...orrr, it could be me lol :)!  I will have to evaluate and make sure I am not the drama :)!  No really, on further review, on a recent transaction the other agent thought that I would cost her cient money from an accidental missing item on the contract...elevating it to "I will fight for my client on this one" before I had even hinted that my client wouldn't cover something.  

I was like..relax, it will be alright.  She wanted to start drama, but there was no reason for it lol :)!

11:01am • #60
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This was incredibly interesting and very thought-provoking.  I'm full-up on drama, so now I need to figure how to empower myself in these situations.  Thanks for sharing this.

12:22pm • #61

kudos on making it through! lord knows how many deals have been lost to that!!!

1:19pm • #62
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I thought there was only the Bermuda Triangle to worry about and now thanks to your superb post I understand so much more about the drama of transactions. It still reminds me of a pig wanting to just get more folks to roll in the mud. Best solution is to set boundaries and limits and along the way work to lead everyone to a solution. Congrats on the feature. It is first rate!

6:57pm • #63
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Emily: thank you, I agree about the little piggy, although he was probably just having fun!

Nogul: yes, thanks.

MaryKay: exactly, because we can't always choose who we work with

Brenda: oh yes, we've all met one of those, too -- people who attack to cover up their own shortcomings. 

Bob: or at least not add fuel to the fire

Raymond: there's a large body of work on this and many related ideas, it's hard to cram it into a singe real estate-related post. Thanks for wading through :-)

Karen: love it!

Ron: glad you got something from the post.

Erv: I was thinking exactly the same thing

Jared: you have a real situation there. It's the made up hulla-ballos that are unnecessary and exhausting

8:52pm • #64
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Cindy: Jennifer definitely "pointed out" a clever extension 

Tammie: well I'll bet you just keep things under control!

Mitchell: she brought scrapings from under the sink to the closing? I would have loved to see a NY attorney deal with that. The company shrink, yeah, I've had a few meetings with them....or rather, the socialogist "change management" people who HR brought in periodically. Fact is, I've learned that marketing and engineering people just think differently. 

Richie: yes, that says it much more succinctly than I did.

Lyn: That's exactly it. (For me, therapy is writing, I am thrilled when anyone reads it).

Jeanne: isn't that the truth!

Coral: I just try and learn what I can from the experts.

Michael: I agree completely, it's crazy when agents can't keep a rational distance.

Phil: and now you have a name for it :-)

Jennifer: it's just human nature, I think

9:07pm • #65
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Mike: thanks, you have a good weekend, too.

Gray: sometimes a little idea gets the wheels turning

Valerie: you must be back from your travels...hope it's been fun and relaxing.

Janet: people are always fascinating, I think.

George: glad you found a little something useful here.

Evelyn: and that's good for you and your clients, I'm sure.

Hella: yes, that's it.

Doug: yes, I agree

Jon: Chicago winters vs. Long Beach...yeah, good decision :-)

Jordan: you're welcome!

9:14pm • #66
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I am in a deal right now which looks like a beautiful serene circle.  I have been in these drama triangles a few times, but fortunately the latter has been more prominent.  Why they can't all be like that is beyond me.  It makes life so much easier.

9:46pm • #67
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One more triangle I'd prefer to stay out of, Leslie.

I had never heard of the drama triangle either.  Interesting.

12:46pm • #69
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The drama triangle has affected my personal life. I determined these so called friends as toxic and dumped them! Lol. Now, in business, we cannot control what happens on the other side of the table. We can on,y be the voice of reason and make our best attempt to correct missteps and miscommunications. Most buyers are fairly educated and can see through all the drama. Sounds like you had a tough one....especially with the agent being related to the buyers. Bet you were happy to be done with it! Hopefully, these are few and far between for you!
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Never heard about this Drama Triangle, just remember my coach advising us to: "Save the drama for your mama".

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