I wanted to share a story about a Bergen County family we were able to help this past week. This is a true story that I have permission to share. It all began in the middle of the summer, I called on this gentleman who had a For Sale By Owner sign on his front lawn. We had a nice conversation and he began to tell me a little bit more about his situation. I asked him how he came about the price he wanted for his home. He told me that he owed about $650,000 on his home and would sell for $625,000. He told me that he liked me, but couldn't use me as his Realtor because he was already losing $25,000 at his asking price. I asked him more questions and was able to set up a time to meet at his home. Ends up the reason he felt he could get so much for his home was because he had refinanced in September of 2006 and had an appraisal for $660,000. He took a 97% loan and now he wanted to sell because he had some hard luck and had lost his job.

Unfortunately, and through no fault of his own, the Real Estate market in his area had taken a major hit. He had received no offers and was continuing to have difficulty meeting his obligations. I asked him what his goal was in selling the house, he said that he wanted to sell and be able to get back on his feet and one day in the future own another home. I can relate to that, people who find themselves in these situations aren't bad folks, they have just come upon hard times.

The potential answer for this family... a Short Sale. What is a Short Sale? When a home is sold and the proceeds are not enough to cover what is owed on the mortgage. By accepting a short sale, the mortgage company can avoid the costly process of foreclosure and the homeowner can be released from the additional debt. This does not work in all situations, however if you have had some form of hardship (loss of income, divorce or some other special circumstance) this may be a viable alternative. The key to having a positive outcome is in having people on your side who have experience with this type of transaction. You will have to prove your situation to the mortgage company, a Realtor, experienced at negotiating Short Sales is of the utmost value.

The family trusted me and let me put their home on the market, not for the original price of $625,000 but for a much more realistic $499,000. Even at that number, we did not receive any offers. After one month we reduced the price to $450,000. We received multiple offers on the home, now the real work started, we had to negotiate with the bank to get them to accept much less than they were owed. This was a lengthy process, it took almost 3 months to get a confirmation from the bank. Everyone really needs to be patient during this time. Persistence pays off, after many hours of being on hold, then finally talking to someone and being able to explain how this benefits the mortgage company. We were presenting them with a qualified buyer, taking care of all the details of the closing, all they had to do was agree to accept less money. Based on our negotiation skills and hard work, the bank accepted a net amount of $399,000. The bank paid for all the closing costs, including brokerage commission, attorney's fees, transfer tax and current payment of taxes. The homeowner walked away with no money following the transaction but was able to sell their home without having to spend any additional money (which they did not have). This scenario seemed very unlikely when I presented it to the homeowner in July. Essentially the mortgage company took over a $250,000 write off on this property. Remember, banks and mortgage companies are making decisions each day to make loans to people. This was an unfortunate circumstance for the mortgage company, however, getting back this money would allow them to lend it to someone else.  This home closed on December 14th and the homeowners were so happy. Christmas is only a few short weeks away and they were able to really have a Merry Christmas. It is very difficult having financial problems, remember you are not alone and that there are people out there who want to help you. After all, we should all be looking for opportunities to help our fellow man during the Christmas season and throughout the year.

UPDATE: A Real Christmas Present from the US Government. On December 21, 2007 President Bush signed into law
H.R. 3648: Mortgage Forgiveness Debt Relief Act of 2007 This family will not be penalized by the government.
They will not be required to pay taxes on the money that was forgiven them.

For more information on Short Sales or any other topic, call Sal Poliandro, Realtor,

ePRO, SRES at 201-259-2187, or visit our website: http://www.salanddawn.com/

Sal can be reached by snail mail at RE/MAX Properties 81 North Maple Avenue Ridgewood, NJ 07450

 

 
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20 Comments on A Short Sale Christmas Story

I have just gotten into a few short sales and they have panned out well. By the way, what bank did you deal with? Some are easier than others.

Were you able to get your full commission rate and how hard did you have to fight for it? Some of them can be pretty tough to deal with on that issue and some don't fight it at all. You really did well at what looks like around 64% net of the balance owed. I assume that is net after commissions.

What did it bpo at? Sorry for the 20 questions but after having a few under my belt now I am trying to gather the traits of the different lenders I may encounter.

Lastly, how were you able to negotiate the seller's position as to deficiency judgements or 1099 consequences? Did they have to sign any promissary note?

Thanks. Any more knowledge I can gain is a plus.

Bob

12/20/2007 12:34 AM by Bob & Karen Winney (Keller Williams Partners)


Hi Bob & Karen,

       The bank paid 5% commission, not the full rate. Banks that I have dealt with have yet to tell me the bpo (that is their bargaining chip). They did not sign a promissary note and they will receive a 1099. I will be blogging about what the government is trying to do to protect folks in the same situation.

Sal Poliandro - Bergen County Realtor, Short Sale Specialist  

 

12/20/2007 12:41 AM by Bergen County Realtor, Sal Poliandro, SRES, ePRO, Short Sale Specialist (RE/MAX Properties)


I heard the Senate has finally passed the 1099 bill so maybe it will be law soon. What bank were you dealing wth on this one?

12/20/2007 12:44 AM by Bob & Karen Winney (Keller Williams Partners)


Sal- It is good to hear success stories on short sales as there are so many out there telling horror stories. We too are doing well with short sales. Yes, it is a lot of work, but we are helping people who are in tough situations. Thank you for sharing this story. Katerina

12/20/2007 01:06 AM by Nestor & Katerina Gasset, Realtors® Wellington Florida Luxury Homes (International Properties and Investments, Inc.)


Are you Bob or Karen?

The senate passed S1394, still has to get through the house and the president. The bank was The Money Store. If the government can pass this, it would really help people.

Sal Poliandro - Bergen County Realtor, Short Sale Specialist

12/20/2007 01:11 AM by Bergen County Realtor, Sal Poliandro, SRES, ePRO, Short Sale Specialist (RE/MAX Properties)


Nice work Sal and Dawn. That is a great discount you negotiated.

Just a couple of things, in my short sale course I have a few tricks for getting a quicker response from the lenders and to control the BPO process somewhat. Usually (not always) on a short sale they will order a full interior bpo so you can rig it through coop or the mls that all showings must come through you. That way you can meet the bpo agent onsight with all your ammo as to comps and repair estimates. The agent doing the BPO will tell you what the amount is if you call them back. I have even found out with a little digging in the BPO world, one which you should be a part of if you are doing short sales.

As to the timeliness of the response, I always get a lowball offer from an investor on the table immediately upon listing a short sale. That gets the ball rolling as far as the BPO being ordered and the processing of the package. Once they come back you now have a pretty good feel for their rules of the road. Once you get a legit offer, you are half way home instead of starting from scratch. Who knows, the investor may be able to negotiate the house but if not, the next offer will start looking better.

 I would also be interested in the bank you had on this one.

 

12/20/2007 01:14 AM by Drew Adams (Big Thompson Publishing)


Hi Katerina,

       I just visited Boynton Beach over Thanksgiving. Congratulations on making a living in that tight market. I heard that 3 or 4 brokerages are closing down. I hope Florida and California turn around soon. It will be nice to hear the media excited about the Real Estate Market again.

Sal Poliandro - Bergen County Realtor, Short Sale Specialist

12/20/2007 01:17 AM by Bergen County Realtor, Sal Poliandro, SRES, ePRO, Short Sale Specialist (RE/MAX Properties)


Drew,

    Thanks for adding to the discussion. I appreciate your input.

Sal Poliandro - Bergen County Realtor, Short Sale Specialist

12/20/2007 01:22 AM by Bergen County Realtor, Sal Poliandro, SRES, ePRO, Short Sale Specialist (RE/MAX Properties)


Bob here,

I have not been keeping up with the progress of this bill. The house passed a version some time back so the senate must have changed what they passed. Who knows, they probably added some pork barrel earmarks to it just for grins.

Yes it will sure help things when the bill becomes law. I was reading of a provision that negates the tax obligation if the sellers can show insolvency when the debt was forgiven. I don't think most of the banks will even forgive the debt if the sellers aren't insolvent. Have you heard of this provision in the tax code?

I am going to have to check your response in the morning. Tomorrow is the last day of taking kids to school for a couple of weeks.

12/20/2007 01:26 AM by Bob & Karen Winney (Keller Williams Partners)


Hey Bob,

     Hopefully, this version (passed by the senate) will be passed in the house. I do believe that if you file an insolvency you do not have to pay the tax. Hopefully they will make it easy to understand and help people get out of their homes if they need to and begin to get back on their feet.

Sal Poliandro - Bergen County Realtor, Short Sale Specialist

12/20/2007 01:32 AM by Bergen County Realtor, Sal Poliandro, SRES, ePRO, Short Sale Specialist (RE/MAX Properties)


Can anyone tell me what happens when the Seller has a HELOC on the property. A friend of mine tells me he would have to get rid of the property because his escrow went up significantly because of the increased taxes and insurance. He just divorced and tells me he is $500 short, and he is paying mortgage out of HELOC. He owes only $126K on the property and about $15K to HELOC.

Is there a chance for him to do short sales?  

12/20/2007 01:42 AM by Jon Zolsky (FunCoast Realty LLC)


Sal congratulations on helping that family to move on. It is surprising what a lender will take in a short sale if only more people in trouble would be open to them.

12/20/2007 05:59 AM by James Gordon REALTOR® PBD SRS (Sibcy Cline Realtors®)


Sal, It was wonderful for you to step in and help this family.  Since I don't believe many people are aware of a short sale, it's terrific information to put out to the consumers.

12/20/2007 06:30 AM by Carole Provenzale Owner, Feng Shui Long Island & New York (Feng Shui Long Island & New York City)


So in this situation your seller will have a $226,000 1099 to pay taxes on right?

 

12/20/2007 08:39 AM by Lewis Smalligan (Exchange Financial)


Hi Lewis,

    As of today, that number is correct. The senate passed S1394, which if it becomes law, and I hope it does, would do away with tax consequences on short sales, much like the benefit you receive if your home appreciates.

Sal Poliandro - Bergen County Realtor, Short Sale Specialist

12/20/2007 11:06 AM by Bergen County Realtor, Sal Poliandro, SRES, ePRO, Short Sale Specialist (RE/MAX Properties)


Jon,

    Depending on the value of the property, your fellow sounds like a prime candidate. Let me know if you need someone to handle the short sale in Florida. I have just the person.

Sal Poliandro - Bergen County Realtor, Short Sale Specialist

12/20/2007 11:07 AM by Bergen County Realtor, Sal Poliandro, SRES, ePRO, Short Sale Specialist (RE/MAX Properties)


James,

    You are absolutely right. I just want to emphasize that there are many potential shortfalls if the negotiator is not skilled. The last thing we want to do is leave the situation worse than when we found it.

Sal Poliandro - Bergen County Realtor, Short Sale Specialist

12/20/2007 11:09 AM by Bergen County Realtor, Sal Poliandro, SRES, ePRO, Short Sale Specialist (RE/MAX Properties)


Carole,

     I agree with you, we are in the education business. All too often people feel scared and alone. I really enjoy helping them. That really is why I became a Realtor in the first place.

 Sal Poliandro - Bergen County Realtor, Short Sale Specialist 

 

12/20/2007 11:10 AM by Bergen County Realtor, Sal Poliandro, SRES, ePRO, Short Sale Specialist (RE/MAX Properties)


Hi Sal, that's a great story and nice job on the sale.  I think that a lot of people don't realize the banks really don't want the property back, so it's worth it to try and negotiate beforehand if they are in a crisis.  Glad you made their Christmas a merry one.

12/29/2007 07:06 PM by Jen Hudson - Stanwood, Camano & Arlington,WA (RE/MAX Signature)


Hi Jen,

     That is what we specialize in. There are many families who need help. My hope for 2008 is that we can meet and help as many of them as possible.  

Sal Poliandro - Bergen County Realtor, Short Sale Specialist

 

12/30/2007 07:11 AM by Bergen County Realtor, Sal Poliandro, SRES, ePRO, Short Sale Specialist (RE/MAX Properties)


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