Can You Predict The Real Estate Market? I Met Someone Who Can!

 

 

Economists pour through reams of statistical data and draw conclusions based on history.  Surely they must be the ones that can tell us what is going to happen with the real estate market going forward, right?  No.  Unfortunately, they can't.  They can use their data to make sweeping generalizations about the national real estate market, but the information does not translate properly to local markets.  However, this does not stop them from using the mass media to alarm the public with their findings. 

 

 

So, it must be the REALTORS® who  work in various LOCAL markets that can tell you what's going to happen in their area.  After all, REALTORS® have all of the relevant local data.  Surely they must know what is going to happen, right?  Not exactly.  Although we know how much homes are selling for, which listings are expiring and which homes are currently on the market, we can hypothesize about the near future, but we certainly cannot give any guarantees as to what the local real estate market will do in the coming months.

 

 

So if it's not the economists and it's not the REALTORS®, then who is this guru that can tell buyers when to buy and sellers when to sell?  It's December, so it must be....Santa Claus!  Of course!  It makes perfect sense.  After all, he sees you when you're sleeping and he knows when you're awake.  To top it all off, he can deliver presents to every child in the world in one night.  Surely, with these powers, the mere predicting of real estate trends should be like child's play to Santa Claus, right?  No, I'm afraid even Santa Claus cannot predict what's going to happen in the real estate market.

 

Give up?  The answer is a homeowner living on Long Island.  I know that you must find this shocking because I sure did.  Why hasn't the whole world heard about this homeowner?  Why isn't he the one talking to the media?  Why doesn't he become a REALTOR® and guide all of the other REALTORS® with his vast knowledge?  If you're finding this hard to believe, please read the following example of this homeowner's wizardry.

 

This homeowner was trying to sell his home.  It was on the market for the whole summer with a listing price of $419,000.  The three month listing expired, and he put the home back on the market with another REALTOR® with a listing price of $409,000.  About five months after the home first went on the market, a buyer that I'm working with made an offer of $375,000.  The homeowner countered the offer at $390,000.  The two sides were deadlocked, but if there was a way to get this deal done, I was going to make it happen.

 

The mortgage broker that I recommend regularly has been working with me on using a point buy-down system.  Most times buyers think that they have to buy the points to reduce their mortgage rate, but it can also be done by the sellers.  Since these buyers were already working with my mortgage broker, we decided to have a sit-down meeting about using this point buy-down system to increase their offer.  The system requires some explaining, and I will provide further explanation in an upcoming post.  For now, suffice it to say that using this system creates a win-win situation.

 

It is important to note that this particular home is located in an area where there are a great deal of foreclosures and short sales, mostly due to the fact that many of the buyers in the area in recent years were sub-prime borrowers (bad credit, little or no down payment).  When the sub-prime mortgage issues came to a head earlier in the year, this was one of the hardest hit neighborhoods.  Even though sales prices in this particular part of town haven't dropped in the past few months, they haven't appreciated either.  Local inventory has sky rocketed however, so the only homes that  are selling are the ones that are priced to sell and/or in outstanding condition.

 

This home was priced slightly above average, and its condition would be considered above average for the area.  The comparables show that similar homes sold for around $400,000 in the past six months.  However, this home had gotten somewhat stale on the market, and the offers weren't coming in.  At this point, there were no buyers willing to make offers in the $400,000 range for this particular home.  Another factor that plays into this scenario is the fact that many buyers in this area are still likely to be sub-prime borrowers that may have a hard time qualifying for a mortgage.

 

The buyers that made the offer through me had credit scores hovering near 800.  They had a more significant down payment to put down than many other buyers in the area.  The buyers intended to apply for a 30-year fixed loan, showing full documentation.  Being that they were renters with no lease, they were willing to close within 30 days, which is no easy feat on Long Island, where most closings take 60-90 days.  These were dream buyers coming in at a very fair price.  Through creative financing, we got the offer up to $388,000

 

The mortgage broker and I went to explain the point buy-down system to the homeowner, and showed him how both parties would benefit by using this technique.  He seemed to understand fully, and said that he just needed to talk it over with his wife. 

 

The next day, the other agent called me and told me that the homeowner decided not to take this offer.  Over $2000!  Are you kidding me?  The agent then told me that the homeowner decided that even at $390,000, he wasn't making enough money on the home.  In fact the exact wording was that he was "losing too much money on the home!"  I was left speechless, but here is the best part.

 

 Remember, this post is about meeting someone that can predict the real estate market.  The facts show that this home sat on the market for three months with one broker at $419,000 and expired.  It sat for another two months with another broker at $409,000 and had only one other offer that never came to fruition because the buyers couldn't get financing.  The homeowner decided that if he waits a year, then the home will sell for around $450,000 - $460,000.  This is based on his opinion of what's going to happen, and absolutely no factual data to support this claim.

 

I implore all Long Island homeowners to speak to this man with the crystal ball.  He can tell you with absolute certainty what your home will sell for next year.  Personally, I can't wait for 2008, and I'm sure that you can see why.  I've met the man that can predict the real estate market, and he sees it rising dramatically next year.  He's not just a myth.  I shook his hand, so I know that he's made of flesh and bone.  This guru has spoken and an increase of nearly 20% in home prices is on the horizon for 2008 for Long Islanders! 

 

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Adam Waldman is a Long Island Residential Real Estate and Relocation Specialist that can assist you with the purchase and/or sale of real estate on Long Island or any place else in the country by connecting you with a relocation professional in your destination of choice. Many Long Islanders have chosen to relocate to other parts of the country, but often times they don't have anyone to turn to for assistance. Realizing that this was an underserved market, Adam Waldman has created a team of professionals throughout the country to ensure that relocating Long Islanders enjoy a smooth transition to their new area. These professionals are experts in the field of relocation and can serve many purposes beyond a simple home search. Please visit www.TheLIReloGuy.com for your relocation needs and www.AdamWaldman.com for your local needs.

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37 Comments on Can You Predict The Real Estate Market? I Met Someone Who Can!

Very funny post. Good stuff from a former Long Islander!

12/20/2007 03:41 PM by Team DiMuria, Katy Texas Realtors (Prudential Gary Greene Realtors)


Adam ~ I am not a Realtor and I am astounded (and laughing) at this "educated" home seller.  Maybe because I live on Long Island too and I'm not seeing what he's seeing - maybe he has a better crystal ball!

12/20/2007 03:46 PM by Kathy Passarette, L.I. Staging/Decorating (Creative Home Expressions)


Adam.   I enjoyed reading all the way through your post here.  Good Job.  Happy Holidays to you and your family.

Don

12/20/2007 03:50 PM by Donald Bradbury, REALTOR Bucks County PA (The Bradbury Team at Coldwell Banker Heritage)


Adam - Would you please give me his phone number?  I want to find out what he sees in store for the Austin, Texas market for next year.  Also, I may need to ask him some questions about the Dallas Cowboys and their prospects for making the Superbowl.  I look forward to speaking with him soon.

12/20/2007 03:53 PM by Jason Crouch, Broker - Austin Texas Real Estate (Austin Texas Homes, LLC)


You need to chain this man up and force him to provide all of the winning lottery numbers!  Glad you can find humor in a disappointing transaction!

12/20/2007 04:05 PM by Bruce Goughnour, Atlanta Associate Broker (RE/MAX Northeast)


Very well written story!  Another seller thinking they can get more than market value for their home.

12/20/2007 04:31 PM by Lake Norman Real Estate ~ Diane Aurit (RE/MAX at the Lake)


Adam,

Nice post...I think he bought the crystal ball I sold at a yard sale last year for $1.50...well at least he'll have a paper weight he can use!!! Thanks,   Fran

12/20/2007 04:32 PM by Fran 'The Title Man' Gaspari Title Insurance-PA & NJ (Patriot Land Transfer, Inc.)


Great post!  Can you get me in touch with that seller so he can give me some incite on Georgia!

12/20/2007 04:47 PM by Lorinda Ward (Acworth Georgia Realtor)


Obviously this seller is not a seller at all. to lose the sale over $2000...., your your buyer also lost out on what seems like a fair deal over just a few dollars a month...and the two brokers lost out on a nice Christmas commission over $1000 each.  If it had been me and I had gotten this close to a deal....I would have offered up part of my commission to make it happen

12/20/2007 05:11 PM by Ron Parise (LocateHomes.com)


I agree with PART of what Ron said.  This is not a home seller, this is a home owner.  Nice twist there, Adam.

12/20/2007 05:31 PM by Lisa Heindel, New Orleans West Bank Real Estate (Latter & Blum Inc. Realtors)


Adam - Does he have a twin-brother that lives in DC?  I think I met him!

12/20/2007 05:37 PM by James Downing - REALTOR® - Washington DC Real Estate (Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage)


Adam - His clones are all over the country.  Thank heavens we have a plethora of experts to advise us.....

12/20/2007 05:44 PM by Norma Toering Rolling Hills & Palos Verdes Property (REMAX Palos Verdes, Palos Verdes Peninsula)


Adam - This guy has relatives all around the country :) Soemtimes people just shoot themselves in the foot. More than likely the $2000 difference will turn into a loss of tens of thousands.

12/20/2007 05:44 PM by Bill Gassett Metrowest Massachusetts Real Estate (RE/MAX Executive Realty)


Adam - there is a saying that people who can't do something, go into teaching the subject. it would follow that people who can't sell their home, would go into business of predicting home prices. That should be a good business indeed and you can be his referral partner:).

12/20/2007 05:51 PM by Faina Sechzer - Princeton, Montgomery, Hopewell, NJ Real Estate Expert (Henderson-Sotheby's International Realty)


Howdy Adam

I would like to thank you for give me a good laugh that I was really needing today.

Have a good one

Dale

12/20/2007 06:55 PM by Dale Baker, Home Inspectior- in NH & VT (Baker Home Inspections and Consulting Service)


Fabulous story!  You will be laughing next year when he sells his home for $350K...oh well, he could have had $388!

12/20/2007 06:57 PM by Chelle Gassan-NOVA Realtor and Stager (Weichert, Realtors and Staged Homes VA)


Adam - take your "golden buyers" elsewhere but keep tabs on the "home owner" and when it sells at the end of 2008 for $360,000 you will know for sure that even the Home Owners crystal ball wasn't so clear. Loved the post - well assembled. - Merry Christmas to you and your family!

12/20/2007 07:04 PM by John Stauffer MBA, E-pro,CRS, ABR, GRI, SRES


::::snicker:::::: Hey, he must have just moved to Long Island, because I met him in Nashville earlier this year! Some people just make you say..Whu???

12/20/2007 09:20 PM by Brentwood TN Real Estate/Homes - Vanessa Stalets REALTOR® (RE/MAX Elite)


There was a tourist destination here in Scottsdale for years called Rawhide (still here, but moved across town).  Wild West theme.  One of the gimmicks was a tic-tac-toe playing chicken.  It won more than it lost.  Sounds amazing, but it's true.  After reading your story, I can fully understand how this chicken kept its success rate intact with buffoons like this guy running loose in society.  Congratulations buddy, you just bought all of your debt back for 2K.  Enjoy!

12/20/2007 09:30 PM by Paul Slaybaugh, Scottsdale AZ Real Estate (Realty Executives)


Adam,

Can I ask for one of those crystel balls for Christmas, or at least access to a long Island guy with one.  Thanks for the post.

Joey

12/20/2007 09:41 PM by Joey Remondino Broker, GRI, E-Pro (StoneHouse Realty Inc)


Adam- I think his brother lives in Florida.  Port Saint Lucie to be exact- ground zero when the real estate bubble burst.  We are trending down about 2% per month right now.  I have sellers telling me I'm crazy, in fact I counted 84 listings I rejected during 2007.  84 sellers clearly most know something I don't.   One more thing almost 9000 listings and we are selling less then 300 per month.

12/20/2007 10:02 PM by Brian Sharkey South Florida Realtor (All Florida GMAC Real Estate)


Adam, You are going to give that guy a lot of business by revealing his secret.  I have been looking for someone with a crystal ball!!  Let me know when he is available. :)

12/21/2007 12:11 AM by Roberta LaRocca - REALTOR® Las Vegas (Keller Williams Realty The Marketplace)


What news is he watching! 

Must be so frustrating for you!  Maybe they'll come around...

12/21/2007 07:24 AM by Krista Fuchs Pennsylvania, Chester County Realtor (Prudential Fox & Roach)


It's amazing how some of the sellers are able to tell us what will happen, when we, who are in the business, have no idea.  Hey, my prediction for 2008, we'll all be millionaires. . . . . NOT!!!

12/21/2007 01:00 PM by Brigita McKelvie - Lehigh Valley, PA, Residential & Horse Properties (Vision Realty Group)


TEAM DIMURIA:  Thanks for the compliment.  Glad you got a laugh out of this.  Where are you from on Long Island?

KATHY:  I think that your vision is perfectly clear, so I wouldn't worry about that.  I haven't seen too many like this homeowner in recent times.  Thanks for commenting, Kathy.

DON:  Thanks for the compliment, and for reading the post in its entirety.  Happy Holidays to you and yours.

JASON:  I'll have to give it to you offline.  If I give it out publicly, then he'll have to change his phone number because of all of the calls.  Thanks for commenting, Jason.

BRUCE:  He told me that he can't do lottery numbers.  His vision only seems to work in a very isolated area.  Thanks for commenting, Bruce.

DIANE:  Thanks for the compliment.  This seller was particularly delusional because he was able to get basically what his counter offer was, but decided that his counter was too low.  You can't make this stuff up.  Thanks for commenting, Diane.

12/21/2007 08:55 PM by Adam Waldman - Long Island REALTOR® (RE/MAX Best)


FRAN:  Thanks for your input.  He'll need the paper weight so that all of his thousands of extra dollars that he earned by not taking this deal won't blow away.  Thanks for commenting, Fran.

LORINDA:  Thanks for your kind words.  I'm sorry, but this guru is a Long Island expert only.  He tells me that he doesn't know Georgia.  Sorry...

RON:  The seller clearly was never serious.  My buyers didn't lose out on anything over a few dollars a month.  They went up to the maximum that they qualified for, and needed to make sure that they had money left for closing costs.  I am shocked at how quickly you would just kick in $1000 to make a deal happen.  It sounds like you don't put a very high value on your services.  It wouldn't have mattered anyway, since the seller decided not to sell even for the $390,000, which was mentioned in the post.  I noticed that you've argued the point about dropping commission on another post as well.  Why is it that you feel that it's our place to just throw in money that we earned to make a deal happen?  It gives the appearance of desperation to close a deal.  I place a higher value on my time, and as such, I protect my earnings.

LISA:  That is about the only part that I agree with too.  This seller was never serious, but he didn't seem to mind wasting everyone's time doing the dance.  Otherwise, I think that Ron clearly missed the gist of this post.  Thanks for commenting, Lisa.

JAMES:  I believe that he has relatives in virtually every market (at least a distant cousin).  Thanks for commenting, James.

NORMA:  You said it!  Where would we be without the knowledge of people that can see the future with absolute certainty?  Thanks for commenting, Norma.

12/21/2007 09:09 PM by Adam Waldman - Long Island REALTOR® (RE/MAX Best)


BILL:  This homeowner does seem to have representation in other parts of the country.  I can tell you with certainty that he will lose money in the long run, unless he's planning on holding this house for much longer than a year.

FAINA:  Thanks for the laugh.  It's a good business plan.  I'll find the leads, let him do the pricing, and then give him a cut when it sells for 20% over market value. J.  Thanks for commenting, Faina.

DALE:  It's my pleasure to help out a friend in need.  If this helped your day out a bit, then it was all worthwhile.  Thanks for your comment, Dale.

CHELLE:  I'm with you on the ultimate price that he'll probably end up with if he tries to sell it next year.  Karma always seems to dictate that people will regret their decisions later on.  Thank you for your compliment and your comment, Chelle.

JOHN:  I didn't have a choice at this point, since the home was taken off of the market after he refused the offer, but I would have gone somewhere else anyway.  When people start off being totally irrational, they only seem to continue down that road once the contract negotiations start.  I'm sure that he'll get much less than the $388,000 should he decide to really sell it next year.  I'm glad that you liked this post, John.  I'll speak to you soon.  Merry Christmas to you and yours!

12/22/2007 04:46 AM by Adam Waldman - Long Island REALTOR® (RE/MAX Best)


VANESSA:  It seems that this is a traveling novelty act, as he has been spotted in several locales around the country.  Thanks for reporting in from your area.  I'll put out an APB to the rest of the community.  Thank you for commenting, Vanessa.

PAUL:  Maybe you could borrow the chicken and bring him to Long Island so that we can set up a competition to see who reigns supreme.  Thanks for the laugh, Paul.

JOEY:  I've sent an e-mail to Santa for you asking for the crystal ball.  If you don't get it, let me know, and I'll put you in touch with the man with the vision on Long Island.  Thanks for commenting, Joey.

BRIAN:  We have confirmed by all of the regional reporters checking in, that this man can either be in many places at one time, or he has minions working with him throughout the land.  Your market makes my market sound like a picnic.  Thanks for commenting, Brian.

ROBERTA:  You'll notice that I only gave away his secret, but not his identity.  I've submitted a proposal to him to allow me to market this incredible service for a fee.  Thanks for your comment, Roberta.

KRISTA:  My guess is that he can only be reading one publication to come up with these wild predictions - THE ONION.  If you haven't read it, I would suggest checking it out.  My frustration is gone, and I've moved on with the buyers.  The home is off the market now anyway, so it's not even an issue anymore.  Thanks for commenting, Krista.

BRIGITA:  I believe that sellers have to learn the lesson the hard way because there is always an agent around that will put the home on the market for whatever price the seller wants and then ask for price reductions.  I can tell you with 99.99% certainty that he could find an agent to put the home back on the market today for $460,000 or more and not think twice about it.  Thanks for your comment, Brigita.

12/22/2007 04:57 AM by Adam Waldman - Long Island REALTOR® (RE/MAX Best)


Merry Christmas to all!  I'll be watching for the post regarding the point buy down system.  Thanks.

12/22/2007 08:09 AM by Kathy Robertson (Re/Max Great American North)


Adam:  I KNOW him!!! LOL YES...this man must have relatives here in NC. He is the one who tells all of his relatives that their homes are underpriced...that they can get so much more. He sure gets around. Merry Christmas, buddy!!

12/22/2007 02:46 PM by Elizabeth Nieves - Bilingual Raleigh - Durham North Carolina Real Estate Team (The Elizabeth Nieves Realty Group @ Keller Williams)


HAHA great post Adam. I know a few of those people too. We use buy downs a lot down here in Central Florida it's a great bargaining tool.

12/22/2007 08:50 PM by Orlando & Lake Mary Real Estate Expert, Heather Joubran (RE/MAX Central Realty)


like donald trump says....make your BEST DEAL TODAY!

12/22/2007 09:01 PM by Steve Harless (REALTY WORLD LUXURY HOMES -702.217.1680)


Adam- In his dreams! I guess he will be waiting for a long time to sell his house! Katerina

12/23/2007 04:44 PM by Nestor & Katerina Gasset, Realtors® Wellington Florida Luxury Homes (International Properties and Investments, Inc.)


The words "oh snap" come to my mind.  I think that someone is in for a rude wake up when next year he can't get what he walked away from this year. 

12/24/2007 10:52 AM by Lane Bailey - The REALTOR for Car People (Diamond Dwellings Realty)


Hey... I hope hes right :)!! Hope its the same in NH too! Merry Christmas to you!

12/24/2007 01:37 PM by Kim Carpenter-Lake Winnipesaukee REALTOR -Lake Winnipesaukee Real Estate, NH (Coldwell Banker)


Very relatable post Adam....With a smile, We usually congratulate these type of sellers with re-purchasing their own home back for the price they hold out for. 

We might also mention (because our entire state is in a re-assessment tax year) that property tax may go up more than the 2 K amount being disputed.

Motivation was not enough for this seller to move - My dad used to tell this story as an alalogy of people in their comfort zones - the napping old blood hound dog laying on the porch will not move when he lays on a nail popping thru the wood plank- just groan and complain a few times during his sleep - the pain must be deep & discomforting enough to wake him up for him to move to another spot!

Happy New Year!

Sincerely,

Grace Safrin

12/26/2007 02:26 PM by Jeff & Grace Safrin-SpousesSellingHouses REALTORS, F.C.Tucker Company, Indiana (F.C.Tucker/Advantage Realty)


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