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Merry Christmas! You owe us $12,000. Pay us in 30 days. Sincerely, the IRS

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with Jonathan and Associates, Inc

Yep, just before Christmas I received a friendly Christmas greeting from the Internal Revenue Service noting that they never processed my 2003 federal tax return and because they haven't received payment for 4 years, I now owe $10,000 in penalties.  Incidentally enough, this isn't the first time this has happened.  Two years back just before my birthday, I received a similar letter demanding close to $40,000.  Thankfully, I was able to find enough of my tax return and an old bank statement to show proof that I didn't owe them anything and I got a return of $111.  Unfortunately this time around, if I'm suppose to get a return, its too late to receive it.  Talk about fair play. 

So, thinking that I'm not the only one this has happened to, here are some helpful tips to keep the tax man from knocking personally at your door. 

1. Keep copies of everything.  I try to keep a pdf version of my tax return on my computer and on my backup drive.  I also have a CD with this data.  Starting this year, I will also scan in my receipts in case I get audited or need to provide proof quickly in case this happens again.  You may want to invest in a document scanner that will make this job a whole lot quicker, however I would group things like gas receipts together on the scanner to create a full page of receipts.  Also, make a copy of all checks that you send for your quarterly payments.   

2. Consider using a separate credit card for all business expenses.  Why a credit card?  Well, my favorite credit card has loads of benefits for using it and as long as I pay it off at the end of the month, the interest is not of a concern (just remember to pay that baby off).  Plus, the statements are very detailed.  If you have a business checking account, that would also work. 

3. If you get the special IRS greeting, don't panic.  Make telephone contact right away and see if there are any further instructions.  If you get one, it will be on a Friday after their call center has closed. Typically, you will be given 30 days to respond to the letters.  The folks I spoke with both times couldn't have been more gentile.  Gather your paperwork up, sign the documents again if necessary, and include a letter along with your return and copies of your checks.  When they said I owed $40,000, I didn't have a check but thankfully the bank I used sent statements that said exactly who I wrote those checks to.  So instead of Check 240, it said Internal Revenue Service. 

4. Don't ignore anything from the IRS.  This goes without saying that the only department in government thats ruthlessly efficent is the one that takes the money.  If we repurposed these people to watch the border, there's be no more illegals crossing either border.  If we give them a gun and sent them to watch the streets, we'd be crime free.  But alas, God has given these guys the gift of taking money and that's what they're going to do, like it or not. 

Sincerely;
Jonathan Osman
The Charlotte House Hunter
Charlotte NC Homes, Charlotte Real Estate

Joe Cline
Affinity Properties, Inc - Austin, TX
man that is scary. I hope it never happens to me.
Dec 25, 2007 02:02 PM
Armando Rodriguez
QUEST REALTY SERVICES - Orlando, FL
Orlando Homes 4 Sale, Real Estate Broker-GRI

WOW, that's are horrible story, what a christmas gift.

I file electronically, get all my confirmations and hope for the best!

Good luck in the future.

Dec 25, 2007 02:11 PM
Tricia Jumonville
Bradfield Properties - Georgetown, TX
Texas REALTOR , Agent With Horse Sense

And this is one reason (among many) that we have a CPA do our taxes.  We not only get multiple copies, fastened into their own folders, but he keeps multiple copies and copies of the documentation and can send us one whenever we need it.  (We've only needed it thusfar when applying for a mortgage, but it's very reassuring to know how quickly and easily we can get it.)  That way, even if our house burns down with the copies and computers in it, there's still a copy somewhere safe that isn't the one the IRS has.  

 

Dec 25, 2007 02:11 PM
Alix Pinzon
Open Mortgage, LLC NMLS # 2975 - Downey, CA
(562)743-6086

Sounds like they've taken a fancy to you.  Perhaps you should obtain the services of a professional CPA.  I had some problems with them years back.  Once I started using a reputable CPA, they went away.  Oh, you like Fred Thompson too?  Let's hope that he does will in the primaries.  Mitt Romney is a spoiled rich kid.  If he's elected, it'll be status quo.  I don't think you'd want that?

Dec 25, 2007 02:16 PM
Jonathan Osman
Jonathan and Associates, Inc - Charlotte, NC
Charlotte House Hunter Group
Armondo, I did the same.  Worst mistake I ever made.  I'm moving my account to a CPA but still will take extra precautions.  Apparently, this happens often to many.
Dec 25, 2007 02:20 PM
Courtney Cooper
Cooper Jacobs - Seattle, WA
206-850-8841
ouch - good luck....
Dec 25, 2007 02:44 PM
Roberta LaRocca
Simply Vegas Real Estate - Las Vegas, NV
REALTOR®, Broker, Salesperson, NV. Lic BS.507
Jonathon, That is scary!  I haven't had this happen to me....yet!   Good luck in getting it straight.  Not a very nice Christmas greeting to receive from your Uncle Sam!
Dec 25, 2007 02:46 PM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
Buy Daytona condos for heavenly good prices

Ha, ha, ha. Yep, we got that too. And not the first time, too. And every time the heart starts pounding, you are ready to die yourself, or kill somebody, who happens to be close to you.

Then you get all the documents, go the them, talk to the nicest ladies, they comfort you, tell you that you need to send it to somewhere, and that they have made a note, and you comply. And then they forget about you, and then, couple of years later they send you the same crap again, now the penalty is higher. And the whole thing goes again.

I have changed the company name several years ago. Everything else is the same, same FEIN number, address, business type...

Now I have trouble both with Department of Revenue that is fining me for failing to file 1065, and IRS, which wants money, that they forget to collect but forgot what for.

Having fun,

Dec 25, 2007 02:54 PM
Bonnie Surguine
HomeSmart - Scottsdale, AZ
Good tips, thanks.  That was pretty funny about getting the IRS watching the borders.  I hope all works out tax wise. 
Dec 25, 2007 03:01 PM
Susan Boeldt
Century 21 Rautmann/Schils Real Estate Inc - Sheboygan, WI
Oh this has happened to not only me but my husband for his business, do not fear the IRS you have rights, do your research!!!!!
Dec 25, 2007 03:29 PM
Nancy Brenner
Referral Associates of Georgia, Inc. - Roswell, GA
Roswell Georgia Real Estate Agent

YIKES!  That's a lot of mullah!   Hope you get this straightened out quickly.
I never thought to 'scan' my receipts.  I'll be doing that from now on.  Thanks.

Dec 25, 2007 04:01 PM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
Buy Daytona condos for heavenly good prices

Jonathan,

How about having them patrol the border and collecting money from who they catch?

As for CPA, it is not a guarantee. We are using CPA, but in 2004 in Hurricane Frances he lost 17 boxes to flooding. Well, our poor luck, some of the documents were right there. SOme of our copies we lost during Hurricane Charley (2 weeks between them).

Dec 25, 2007 04:03 PM
Val Rensink
HomeSource Lamoreaux Group - Victorville, CA
I hope you have good tax advise. I understand from two real estate attorney tax people that the IRS will be targeting Real estate tax returns with more scrutiny in 2008
Dec 25, 2007 04:22 PM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
Buy Daytona condos for heavenly good prices

Val,

What, less money, more scrutiny?

Dec 25, 2007 05:03 PM