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40 Comments on Once Again, New Does Not Mean Perfect
It all comes down to the quality of the contractor and his/her subs. I've had new homes built by good contractors still have some issues including "phantom wiring" that goes nowhere, unfinished work, etc. Even on new construction an inspection finds something.
Just because something meets "minimum" code requirements, doesn't necessarily mean it's done right. I've seen brand new homes - that passed code inspection - with numerous issues. New doesn't mean perfect.
Jim, A song for the choir there. If you count the total time a municipal inspector is actually looking at something on the site it would not add up to very much. If it is a track home it may not ever been looked at.
A good home inspection is not replaceable and should never be over looked. Best insurance policy you can get, in my humble opinion ; )
James, this post just goes to demonstrate that no one is perfect, and even if it is a new home, that just means that less should be found.
Things fails. New, old, jerry rigged. Nothing is guaranteed, somethings are more professionally installed though.
My first broker actually told me that I did not need to get home inspections on new construction as the builder gave the buyer a one year warranty. Yikes!
I read that in listings all the time! Almost new roof, new furnace, new hot water tank and when you look at when the unit was built it would've had to sit in a warehouse for 10 years.
I think this is great advice, buying "new" you go in with the idea that everything is new so nothing could be wrong. However like you mention that is not always the case.
Thank you for telling it like it really is......I insist that buyers do home inspections, sewer scopes and underground tank checks on brand new properties....they usually are the ones with defects....disconnected heat vents, bad wiring, dishwashers with no discharge.......fun, fun, fun...
My inspector is a valuable part of my team...without him, my clients would be purchasing blind!
All true. I worked for production builders in the past and some buyers could not understand why we could not reproduce a perfect product exactly the same each time. I explained that people and hands put homes together (not in an assembly line with precision robots) and the homes truly are like snowflakes! No two exactly the same, and this goes for quality. We welcomed inspections, because sometimes, some things needed correction! Better to catch it before closing.
When people call asking about an inspection on a new construction, I typically tell them I have more problems with new construction than with old! For various reasons.
James, Many of my buyers are even opting to have a home inspection done before the end of the one-year warranty so they wil be protected. That has got to be good for the home inspectors too.
As one who grew up in a home built in 1786 and another one built around 1800, I can pretty much guarantee you that newly built does not mean perfect. Did those homes have imperfections? Absolutely! One had walls insulated with 200 year old newspapers and the other had a waterfall running through the basement every spring. But, unlike many homes built in the mid 20th cent., they're still standing and looking glorious!
P.S. The home built in 1786 was near you: Hamden, Ct.
New doesn't mean perfect is so true. Not separating the grounds and neutrals is something the building inspector definitely should have caught if it was inspected by one. That's why people need the Home Inspector.Good post.
Eve, Another case in point.
Debbie, Yes that is a good point, "used" homes usually have been looked at and fixed.
Captain Wayne, Thanks, you too.
Chris, The building codes are the bare minimum standard. The defect in this panel is and has been a code requirement for many years, but more importantly it is basic wiring that any electrician should know how to do.
Fred, Exactly, there are many, many hands involved in building the average house.
Lenn, You're preaching to the choir.
Gail, Yes, once the home has been lived in, the flaws usually aree found and fixed.
Gary, Right, complicted things, often have minor problems that need repair.
Richie, Sounds like you had a good system.
Kathy, Sounds like the inspection went smoothly.
Wayne, Sorry, the point wasn't the wiring, but the fact it was new construction. The neutrals and grounds were mixed.
Doug, I think many new home buyers are also shocked when home inspections turn up problems with their brand new house.
Mike, The problem or should I say a characteristic of electricity is that even when done wrong and unsafe, it will still work.
Juan, That's a biggy. One has to ask, where was the local building official?
Randy, Glad I open your eyes. There are many post here on AR about problems with new construction.
Shannon, Amazing. The buyer should always have the option to inspect the house.
Cheryl, No argument here :)
Erv, I could see that happening.
Kwee, Lumber mold is very common and NOT an issue or it shouldn't be made into one.
MeLisa, Another great point with all houses, resale. Don't inherit another owner's problems.
Bryan, Yes, even the best can not deliver perfection, but they are usually a lot closer to it.
Phil, Meeting code hardly means all is well and good. There are many components whose installation parameters are not in the code books.
Don, Good points all. and yes you are singing to the choir ;)
Ed, One would expect to find less problems with new, but I have inspect a few new houses that have had numerous problems.
Andrew, For sure.
Kathryn, Yikes! is right.
Paul, I'm laughing because I see that all the time.
Morgan, New means new, not necessarily perfect.
Shar, I like your team approach. I also look at the home buying process as a team effort with the agent being the manager.
Athina, For sure, much better to be proactive than reactive.
Jay, Yep, as we know it's so often true.
Debbie, Yes some companies do market that service. Not a bad idea at all.
Lori, Old homes that are still standing are the ones that were well built. So you grew up near me, cool!
Rob, Good eyes! The picture is small. You are right, this should have been caught.