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The House is Vacant, Why Can't You Just Give Me The Lockbox Code?

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Real Estate Agent with RE/MAX Coastal Properties BROK.995683208

Doug Rogers Bayou Properties Realty

 With a foreclosure specialist on staff, my company gets daily calls from would-be buyers. Thanks to our internet advertising, many of these prospects will call from the front yard wanting to get inside. Let's examine why I can't give you the lock box code over the phone...

1) You may not really be a buyer-- Like a front porch light, foreclosures attract all sorts of critters. Some are legitimate buyers, others are looking for plunder. With only a cell phone call I can't determine which category you belong.

2) There may be safety concerns-- Think about it, if the owner is not paying the mortgage do you think they are keeping the property in top condition? I have seen holes in the floor, falling ceiling tiles, and mold just to name a few. Sure there is a property preservation company to address the big problems, but sometimes they miss things. Ever had a rusty nail dug out of your foot?

3) My Seller expects me to be there-- My goal is to sell the property. As such, I want to observe your reaction to the property. "It's not for me", mentioned during a cell phone call the next day doesn't give me any useful information.

4) We are better than the  lazy agents-- Yes, Lazy Daisy over at ABC Realty gives you the combo codes. In fact, she tells you about properties BEFORE they hit the market. But beware, an agent that will cut ethical corners with her seller will do likewise with her buyer...

 Looking for a full service agent to help you navigate the foreclosure process? Call Doug Rogers with Bayou Properties Realty today at (318) 613-1994. Search Local homes for sale in Alexandria Louisiana at www.LouisianaHouseHunter.com

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Terry Rasner-Yacenda
Broker,Owner - Dreams Realty - Reno, NV
"Dreams Realty"

Hi Doug -- lots of good comments and perspectives.  Here in Nevada access to lockbox codes is given only to property preservation companies, and it's literally a contractor's lockboxClients of any kind are not given lockbox codes, and Northern Nevada Realtors all use a Supra ekey box.

P.S. I might add, REO lookers/peepers often want in to "move in" and may even go so far as to change the locks!

Apr 26, 2012 04:43 AM
Adrian Willanger
206 909-7536 AdrianWillanger-broker.com - Seattle, WA
Profit from my two decades of experience

I like my job and the responsibilities that go along with it. I won't give a buyer to go through a house without proper representation, just too much risk. 

Apr 26, 2012 04:50 AM
Greg Nino
RE/MAX Compass - Houston, TX
Houston, Texas

Well said. And what happens if when they step inside they bump their knee and sue you?

Apr 26, 2012 05:19 AM
Joy Daniels
Joy Daniels Real Estate Group, Ltd. - Harrisburg, PA

Amazing that people have the nerve to call and ask that question. 

Apr 26, 2012 06:16 AM
Hella Mitschke Rothwell
(831) 626-4000 - Honolulu, HI
Hawaii & California Real Estate Broker

And when you do go in legally, don't leave the door open for someone to come in behind you. No, no one goes in but me and my client. Not even another agent.

Apr 26, 2012 07:54 AM
Bryan Robertson
Los Altos, CA

Even if a qualified buyer wants to get into a property, giving out the access code is a guaranteed way to lose MLS access (at least here in Silicon Valley).  A property showing is in everyone's best interest for the reasons you describe.  I'd also add that any damage that might be done by a buyer with unrestricted access could fall to the agent who gave the code.  Another reason not to do it.

Apr 26, 2012 08:09 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

That's a big, big fine in my Board.  Big fine.

Apr 26, 2012 08:55 AM
Candice A. Donofrio
Next Wave RE Investments LLC Bullhead City AZ Commercial RE Broker - Fort Mohave, AZ
928-201-4BHC (4242) call/text

Absolutely!!!

Not only can we NOT give the code to a consumer . . . we can NOT give our LB key even to another agent in our office to use. And the only way homes are not on our Board-approved (Supra) boxes is when the seller gives written notice to opt out. If a contractor box is required, it must be in addition to electronic lockbox. Why?

Because they want to know who was in there and when in the event of a 'problem'.

Lazy Daisy would be curb-kicked in our area.

Daisy would also be fined--2000 bucks-- for providing her login to anyone . . .  and we've heard this from consumers too.

Daisy, Daisy . . . don't you know they will TELL on you every time?  :)

Apr 26, 2012 10:09 AM
Bob & Carolin Benjamin
Benjamin Realty LLC - Gold Canyon, AZ
East Phoenix Arizona Homes

But they still ask don't they -- they still ask. All the best.

Apr 26, 2012 10:39 AM
Judy Orr
HomeSmart - Scottsdale, AZ
Scottsdale AZ and surrounding towns

In my area agents are required to give their agent ID when making appointments.  However, once an agent gets a code I'm sure some of them give them out to their buyers, which I think is disgraceful.  If I ever caught any buyers without an agent I would tell the listing agent but if it's a combo lockbox I'm not sure the buyer's agent could be tracked down on a busy foreclosure or vacant home.

Apr 26, 2012 11:45 AM
Christine Donovan
Donovan Blatt Realty - Costa Mesa, CA
Broker/Attorney 714-319-9751 DRE01267479 - Costa M

Doug - People still want to do that, and there are so many reasons why we just can't.

Apr 26, 2012 04:33 PM
Phil Leng
Retired - Kirkland, WA
Phil Leng - Retired

Hi Doug,

Great post.

I would love to meet Lazy Daisy. That is quite the name for a real estate agent!

Phil

Apr 26, 2012 07:45 PM
Liz and Bill Spear
Transaction Alliance 513.520.5305 www.LizTour.com - Mason, OH
Transaction Alliance Cincinnati & Dayton suburbs

Doug, It may be inconvenient, but there's absolutely no way we'll do anything other than set the showing and make it happen.  No one that's not authorized gets our codes.

Apr 26, 2012 08:15 PM
Cheryl Ritchie
RE/MAX Leading Edge www.GoldenResults.com - Huntingtown, MD
Southern Maryland 301-980-7566
Liability, safety, fiduciary responsibilities are good points and that's just the beginning. Good post topic.
Apr 26, 2012 08:29 PM
Kathryn Maguire
GreatNorfolkHomes.com (757) 560-0881 - Chesapeake, VA
Serving Chesapeake, Norfolk, VA Beach

This is why I don't like contractor lockboxes.  I have known agents who will give them to buyers because they don't want to take them back in for a second look.

Apr 26, 2012 08:40 PM
Bob Crane
Woodland Management Service / Woodland Real Estate, KW Diversified - Stevens Point, WI
Forestland Experts! 715-204-9671

As an investor, I don't know why anyone would want to enter a property without the agent.

First of all time is valuable, why would I want to take the time to look at the property without the agent to answer my questions and write the offer afterwards.

Secondly there is the issue of liability, I would rather not be in the position of being a recent unsupervised visitor if any damage occurred.

 

Apr 26, 2012 09:33 PM
Lisa Von Domek
Lisa Von Domek Team - Dallas, TX
....Experience Isn't Expensive.... It's Priceless!

Good morning Doug,

Great post, brings up the reasons we don't ever use combo boxes for showings - only Supra that require the Realtor code key for access.  We do, for our Seller's convenience, post combo boxes for repair access.  But, that code is only given out to their authorized users.

Apr 26, 2012 10:14 PM
Ron Marshall
Marshall Enterprises - Saint Michael, MN
Birdhouse Builder Extraordinaire

When I am working on trashouts or mowing lawns on soon-to-be foreclosures, many times people will stop and request to see a property.  No can do.  I am not a licensed realtor. 

Apr 26, 2012 10:14 PM
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital
Doug, what I love are the buyer agents who call for the combo then pass it on to their clients. That's why I like the electronic lockboxes.
Apr 28, 2012 02:12 AM
Anonymous
Andrea
I'm looking for some insight into an issue a friend is having. their home is being foreclosed on and they essentially left the house. however, they did not take all of their possessions from the home before they were locked out by the lender. the question is can a lender allow the police to come in and do a search without a warrant? i understand the lenders having a maintenance company come in to winterize and maintain the property etc, and at some point they even hire companies to do a full clean out of all possessions. but these are different circumstances. any insight into this would be greatly appreciated. if you know of specific laws that apply to this or information on line that you can direct me to even better. Thanks in advance!!
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