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Cohousing - Would YOU want to live here?

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This morning's mail brought an article about two new cohousing projects in the planning stages in Alaska. Apparently there are already about 120 such communities across the U.S. and proponents see them as a way to bring back old-fashioned small-town neighborliness.

I don't know...

I appreciate some of my neighbors and the fact that we look out for each other. And there are times when I wish at least one of my neighbors was someone who would enjoy taking off to do the things I like to do. But...

Would I want to live on a 6 acre parcel in one of 30 or so tiny houses, all growing tomatossharing a common garden and "community house?"

Would I want to share meals with my neighbors a couple of nights each week?

When I had overnight guests, would I want to house them at the "community house?"

No. Until I got acquainted with my nearest neighbors it bothered me that I could see their roof - only a quarter mile away.

So, while I do appreciate the idea of community, this wouldn't be for me.

Somehow it reminds me of communes, and makes me think of communism.

I like my independence.

What do you think?

Comments(36)

Marte Cliff
Marte Cliff Copywriting - Priest River, ID
Your real estate writer

Christine - Me too. I like my neighborhood - where we're all far enough apart to enjoy the people we like and ignore the ones we don't.

Apr 29, 2012 07:39 AM
Donald Reich
Madison Specs - New Rochelle, NY
Cost Segregation Specialist

The idea is not for me, but I could see why some people would like it. Different strokes for different folks!

Apr 29, 2012 08:42 AM
Marte Cliff
Marte Cliff Copywriting - Priest River, ID
Your real estate writer

Donald - Yep, it's a good thing we don't all want the same thing.

Apr 29, 2012 09:01 AM
Kevin Sembrat
Diversified RCS Inc; http://www.ManhattanPropertiesGroup.com - Manhattan, NY

Hi Marte -- Not for me -- private property all the way! :-)

Best,

Kevin

Apr 29, 2012 09:12 AM
Morgan Evans
Douglas Elliman Real Estate - Manhattan, NY
LICENSED REAL ESTATE SALESPERSON

The privacy aspect would definitely be a problem for me, but I can see some advantages to the group type of arrangement.

Apr 29, 2012 09:17 AM
Carla Muss-Jacobs, RETIRED
RETIRED / State License is Inactive - Portland, OR

Oh geez, it's another alternative and now it's gone from "commune" to "communism.  BOO -- did I scare ya Marte??  You seem a little skittish with this post.

Who cares really?!?  Live and let live.  If it's not the type of community you'd enjoy, don't bad mouth it or equate it to communism . . . that's such a stretch.

And the ironic thing is . . . this type of set up is exactly what established this nation 200+ years ago.  You think the Pilgrims had an isolated plot of land and stayed to themselves? This is the type of living people had to have in order to survive. 

Apr 29, 2012 09:25 AM
Michael S. Bolton
Michael S. Bolton,Inc. - Zimmerman, MN
MN Appraiser

Hi Marte~No way would this be for me, but if there is a market for it then I guess go for it. But I would pray that I would never have to appraise this type of property, I'm guessing it would be quite challenging.

Have an AWESOME day!

 

Apr 29, 2012 09:36 AM
Pete Xavier
Investments to Luxury - Pacific Palisades, CA
Outstanding Agent Referrals-Nationwide

Well Marte,

I myself am looking for an all nude type of commune, no secrets and living/sharing the fruits of Mother Earth.

Apr 29, 2012 09:39 AM
Eileen Hsu
Douglas Elliman Real Estate - Manhattan, NY
LICENSED REAL ESTATE SALESPERSON

You better sure like your neighbors if you are ready to take on this type of lifestyle. 

Apr 29, 2012 09:39 AM
Wayne Zuhl
Remax First Realty II - Cranford, NJ
The Last Name You'll Ever Need in Real Estate

 I like to choose who I dine with and share space with. I'm not sure I'm kind enough or forgiving enough or patient enough to live like that.

Apr 29, 2012 10:03 AM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
Buy Daytona condos for heavenly good prices
Funny you mention communism but it is in a way a forced cohabitation so I see your point, we all love our freedom!
Apr 29, 2012 12:58 PM
Marte Cliff
Marte Cliff Copywriting - Priest River, ID
Your real estate writer

Kevin - Me too. I wouldn't even want to live in a condo with shared access to a pool or other amenities.

Morgan - Maybe one or two benefits, but still not for me.

Carla - Yes, I AM spooky about some things right now. The whole redistribution of wealth thing has got me in that frame of mind. I'm pretty sure I read that the Pilgrims tried the shared work thing and it didn't work - but I'd have to go back and check my sources to swear to it.

Michael - I hope you never have to. How on earth would you estimate the impact on value? Especially after what Jeff (#5) had to say about trying to sell one of them.

Pete - Good luck in finding that! I had a client once who had written a book about nude gardening... he thought it was the way to go. Wouldn't be for me. I'd either freeze to death or be sunburned everywhere - and have cuts and scratches from head to toe.

Eileen - And I wonder how long you'd like them with that kind of togetherness?

Wayne and Jean Marie - I know I'm not.

Jon - You know a lot more about that than I do - all I know is what I read. But that's enough to let me know that I don't want anything that comes close. We're already not as free as I think we should be.

 

Apr 29, 2012 01:56 PM
Maria Morton
Platinum Realty - Kansas City, MO
Kansas City Real Estate 816-560-3758

I don't know, Marte, 30 houses on 6 acres is a lot of people to commune with.

Apr 30, 2012 12:41 AM
Sandy Acevedo
951-290-8588 - Chino Hills, CA
RE/MAX Masters, Inland Empire Homes for Sale

Hi Marte, this is not for me, either. On the other hand, you can only see your neighbor's roof? That's not for me either! Somewhere in the middle would satisfy.....

Apr 30, 2012 01:14 AM
Marte Cliff
Marte Cliff Copywriting - Priest River, ID
Your real estate writer

  Maria - Way too many for me.

Apr 30, 2012 01:43 AM
Marte Cliff
Marte Cliff Copywriting - Priest River, ID
Your real estate writer

Sandy - Until all the trees leaf out, I can also see if someone is parked outside his garage. It's just 1/4 mile from here to there.

Apr 30, 2012 01:45 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

We have such a community in my area.  The homes are all "green" construction, there is a community garden and community house/rec center/community center.

I've had buyers who loved the homes, the community, etc. but didn't buy there due to the "communal" atmosphere. 

Most folks value their privacy.

Apr 30, 2012 09:51 AM
Marte Cliff
Marte Cliff Copywriting - Priest River, ID
Your real estate writer

Lenn - from what you and a couple of others here have said, it looks like those communities can't resale value in their list of benefits. Community is fine - as long as you can go home and shut the door on it!

Apr 30, 2012 03:29 PM
Anonymous
erick95959

Please DO NOT use Marte's post as an informative source on cohousing. She has every right to speak on her experiences, but they are still subjective and more importantly, anecdotal. Posts and articles such as this one substantiate misinformation about cohousing simpy through repetition and affirmation in the comments section.

"Cohousing - Would You WANT to Live Here?" - reasonable question, but Marte's post doesn't describe or define it accurately, or at all, really. Wikipedia can do wonders. For starters, search Communes and seach Cohousing. Then check out the links I provided at the bottom.

There is plenty of literature on cohousing readily available online. Cohousing groups usually have websites and are easy to contact. It's a housing concept that originated in Denmark. Kathryn McCamant and husband, Charles Durrett, researched the various cohousing neighborhoods, compiled all they had learned of the process and ethnography, and brought the concept to North America.

Check out the cohousing survey conducted last year with 80 of the 120 communities (link at the bottom). What do the finding show? Cohousing works - financially, socially, and environmentally.

- 90% reported property values increasing or at average local housing value.

- 13% reported any unit foreclosures.

- 91% reported frequently or occasionally holding events for the greater community.

- 83% reported frequently or occasoinally carpooling.

These are just some stats, but the tell of the tape is really in the unquantifiable qualities that a cohouser gets from their neighborhood.

For elder and senior citizens, there is a physically and socially supportive network of neighbors. It isn't assisted care, rather it's an opportunity for neighbors to be aware of each other, allowing older people to maintain their independence. There is a reason baby boomers have picked up on cohousing and adapted it as senior cohousing.

For families, caring and trusted neighbors facilitate a safer environment, where kids can spontaneously play together (less scheduling for parents) and have appropriate areas to study, cook, or play music (the common house). The common house is also great for hosting friends over dinner.

The list of benefits goes on really.

Check out Creating Cohousing: Building Sustainable Communities, by Chuck and Katie. By design and process, cohousing facilitates the opportunity to be social, green, and economical with the support of a community.

http://www.cohousing.org/docs/2011/survey_of_cohousing_communities_2011.pdf

http://www.newsociety.com/books/c/creating-cohousing

http://www.cohousingco.com

 

 

May 02, 2012 05:58 AM
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Marte Cliff
Marte Cliff Copywriting - Priest River, ID
Your real estate writer

erick - Thanks for providing links for those who might be interested in learning more.

May 02, 2012 06:20 AM