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I recently had a call from a Real Estate Agent from anther state who said his fiancé wanted to sell her townhouse in Hawaii. Would I mind going to preview the property?
That the market is the same everywhere
What happens when someone who does mortgages, obtains a real estate license (just because), flips houses and a 'jack of all trades' meets up with a by the book, detailed agent who never crosses over that line? 
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115 Comments on Shame on You for Crossing That LINE!
Hi Celeste,
A couple going thru a separation/divorce is no cake walk for the listing agent. Now, add the “know it all” out of state boyfriend/Realtor® and you have a recipe for disaster!
Obviously you did the right thing!
Sometimes (although not always) you can call their bluff when the potential client wants to keep negotiating or issues ridiculous demands or excuses. Appear to be "negotiating" right back at them. A reply of "I can do that if I get both signatures by 5 PM today", for example. Or come back to the "I used to be....." routine by asking them if they "still have the (xyz) agreement forms? If you can create that for me by Noon tomorrow I'll review and we'll get it done". Start putting it back on them to make it look as though you want to help them and see where that goes.
You will either bust them (and not waste any more time), get them to see how much they are really demanding of you, or get them to actually do some of your work in return for a consideration on your part.
My belief is that it should never come down to the serious last stage before the problems hit. You need to know exactly who and what you are dealing with much sooner.
You go Girl!
Sally - An agent called me with a referral, but then only gave me the name of the couple and not their phone number. She said they would call me. I never got a call, but saw the rental listing on MLS two days later. When I informed the referring agent of this, she suggested I call the couple, "if my state laws allow." I can't imagine any real estate agency laws allowing that AND she still never gave me their phone number. We need a lot of qualified leads in this business so that we can throw fish like this and the big stinky one you had back into the sea. This business is enjoyable if you have the luxury of picking and choosing your clients and don't have to chase after every lead.
This guy sounds like pond scum to me. Good for you for setting him straight.
Wondering if you checked to see if he really was a "currently" licensed agent or merely acting like one (a bad one at that)?
You know it sounds like these people have some real issues other than real estate - Is the the Hawaii Soap Opera? When people have issues like those the tend to flow over into other aspects of their lives.
#97 Eric: HUH? Yes, I did make an appointment with HER..the seller. The so called agent/fiance is in another state on the mainland (not in Hawaii) Who said she was not present? >>>>HE WAS NOT PRESENT.
Dimitri It's actually finalized...just the MR (ex) is still on title. 'Fiance/agent' is NOT.
#58 and #61 and #87 Please reread the story...I DID meet with the seller...but not the seller's EX. Both of them are still on title.
#99 Yeah....this was all done in a matter of 3 hours on my Sunday morning. I prepared the packet...met with ONE of the sellers and a phone call with the Agent/Fiance whom I paid not much attention to...and left the appointment with not wasting much time thereafter.
103 Oh, I checked out www.arello.com and also 'consulted' with a fellow ActiveRain/Friend on the mainland and in the state the 'agent' is in and yes...holds a license but darn if this person isn't a flipper/investor/loan officer and you name it...he supposedly is it.
#90 Hey Beth! NO KIDDING! Now THAT is exactly what it was....and they pretend to know it all when it comes to real estate....especially in OUR SIDE OF TOWN....way across the Pacific and all. LOL LOL And yes, the market is pretty healthy....although in this guys' mind the boom is still going on for him lol lol
Great post, Sally. If you can control the quality of your clients, you'll control your quality of life.
It can be tough when working with extended family, an out-of-town "expert" or a non-title boyfriend/girlfriend. This sounds like the perfect storm of all 3.
Hi Sally, what a story! Too bad you had to give up your Sunday and go through all that work.
Hmm, not even the owner & selling the fiance's property huh?
Doncha just love to say................................ NEXT!!
And your post leads right into the best question we can ever ask, although we rarely get the truth, "Are you the decision maker or is there someone else or an entire phonebook of people I need to deal with?" Good for you for sticking to your guns.
Transaction that are problematic before they even start never get better. You were wise to pass.
Sis - Those type of folks are the reason some of us age way too quickly. But your response(s) are excellent and act as moisturizer to guard against these wrinkles in humanity and the Real Estate Industry specifically.
lil bro: You are so articulate in your writing that they would have to sit and think for awhile and still not get it.
It is always tough when a third party gets involved and they think they are an expert. That would have been a nightmare transaction. Too many cooks in the kitchen.
The strangest thing is that some of my worst clients have been real estate agents or people that have previously had an RE license but don't (for who knows what reason) anymore. I try really hard not to get too involved in other people's situations if I am not representing them,because most of the time you don't know the whole story, and certainly if it is in another market area you don't know much of anything at all :-) Kasey
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