This is a question that I will sometimes ask sellers in our market. Often when I go out on a listing appointment the sellers have met with other agents.

The sellers almost always have an idea of some of the market conditions and place a value on their property that they keep as a secret as long as they can. Sellers seem to want to wait and see which of the agents that they are interviewing will outbid their perceived value.

This actually worked to sellers advantage a couple of years ago, but these days it's a recipe for disaster. I always show up to the listing appointment with a price that is printed in the comparative market analysis. I know that many agents don't do this because they tend to roll over when they find out what that secret price that the seller has is. I realize that my preprinted price is a estimate without an interior view initially, but my price is not in stone either (many times I will know the home from a prior listing or sale). I have found recently that even a price range may not be the best thing for the sellers. Sellers almost always want to go to the top of a suggested range. The higher you start on the price, the more the sellers will feel like they are giving up when they really get to the price that they should have started at in the beginning. 

The price needs to be set based upon the comparable properties, neighborhood location, street appeal etc. just to get it shown these days in our market. The first sale that you have to make is to the Big Bear Real Estate agents. If your home is overpriced in the Big Bear Real Estate Market, you will blend in with the other 1000 or so that are also overpriced. Most of the time homes in our market that have interior upgrades will not necessarily sell for more than the other homes without these upgrades, they will just sell sooner. If the market is moving down as it is currently that can mean thousands to a seller. Obviously there are exceptions, but in the current Big Bear Real Estate market it is a mistake to try to buy or sell the highest price home in the neighborhood.

So, once I get this number out of the seller... I sometimes have to ask, when do you want me to start telling you the truth? If I wait to tell you the truth 90 days from now, how much does that cost? What sign do you want to see in front of your house 90 days from now, JUST REDUCED or SOLD!

Steve Hirschler

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15 Comments on When do you want me to start telling you the truth?

DEC
31
2007
Pricing is key.  As professionals, it's essential we're dealing in supportable facts about value, i.e. market data on recent sales.  Your post expresses it well.
4:54pm • #1
234,953 Points 2 Featured Posts Outside Blog
It seems most sellers think their house is special and worth a million dollars.
5:02pm • #2

What an excellent, and brave, way to approach a listing--with the suggested asking price already printed out! When you've got that out of the way, you can start to work with the seller, or find out right away how hard they are going to be to deal with.

Thanks for the great tip, Steve!

Cheers,

Robin

5:09pm • #3
129,753 Points Outside Blog
Wow, I always show them what is happening and what they can expect. I do not give false hope.
5:12pm • #4
424,530 Points 10 Featured Posts Outside Blog
That is a great question.  In 90 days do you want to see a sold sign or a just reduced sign.  Unfortunately here in Metro Detroit it probably would not matter because there are so few buyers.
5:25pm • #5
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I always tell it the way it is, that's just the way it is.Sellers need to be realistic in this market.

Patricia Aulson/Hampton NH Real Estate 

5:55pm • #6
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Steve, you bring up a great point.  In some areas of my market, the interior upgrades mean just that! They sell faster, not for more.  I know that is an incredibly difficult thing for our sellers to accept, but if they expect to compete, they have to.
5:56pm • #7
JAN
01
2008
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I find out what price the seller has in mind before stepping foot in the house. Then I bring two prices with me to the listing appointment, the high and the low, and I show them both. If you're persistent, you can squeeze the secret price out of them. If an agent is unable to get this crucial piece of information, then maybe the seller should list with somebody else. :)


12:49pm • #8
The price needs to be set based upon the comparable properties, period.
1:22pm • #9
552,552 Points 47 Featured Posts Outside Blog
Nice post Steve, being new to active rain does not mean you are new to the business...you have some great points...pricing right the first time will save you both money.  Great Post.
9:31pm • #10
JAN
06
2008

That was excellent Steve!  I especially like the phrase (which sign to you want to see!)  I often say 'do you wanna be right or do you wanna be sold!  But I'll incorporate yours as well!  Great blog.  I see that you share my view that by going in right from the beggining you save yourself headache, and can potentially weed out clients that may or may not be a good fit.  Thanks!

 

Ray

9:00pm • #11
MAR
01
2008
I love that statement....When do you want me to start telling you the truth?  I would change it a bit and ask them, "When do you want to start HEARING the truth?"  I hope you tell the truth ALL the time.  :-)
6:47pm • #12

Richard,

Thanks for reading the post and yes I do tell them the truth ALL the time. I like your change to HEARING THE TRUTH.

6:57pm • #13
MAR
02
2008

Steve,

This is a great post and a great point. I like all of the points you made, but I think the one about standing out to fellow agents is really important. In our market it appears that the top 10% of the homes (top= best perceived value- location, price, clean) are selling and some receiving multiple offers, the rest just linger and chase the market down. Being strong initially is so important and I am a work in progress at that. I will put a few of your phrases to work!

Thanks,

Holly Galligan, Realtor ~ Lake Arrowhead, CA

11:13am • #14
Holly - Thanks for the comment. I hope you have a great 2008!
11:16am • #15

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