short sale trainingHi Bryant,

 

I am looking for techniques for obtaining Waivers of Deficiencies.  I noticed that you have commented on this issue in the CDPE forums.

 

I recently listened to an interview and from what I can recall, the silver bullet was to put a rider on the purchase and sale contract which allows the seller the option to cancel the contract in the event that a Waiver of Deficiency can not be obtained.

 

 

My first thought was this was pointless, as the seller's lender is not a party to the sales contract.  He went on to explain, however, that the rider serves as an effective tool with which to threaten the lender during the negotiation process, and that he had a lot of success with the technique.

Any thoughts on this technique?  Any other effective techniques to obtain a waiver?

My thoughts:

Most short sale contract contingencies give the seller the right to cancel the contract if the terms of the short sale are not agreeable. So there certainly needs to be something in the contract related to this. However, it will have ZERO effect on whether or not the lender gives a Deficiency Waiver. This is a technique taught by people that don't actually negotiate short sales :)

The way  to get a deficiency waiver is to just ask the lender. And start asking when you submit the Short Sale. It should be in your cover letter and then in every correspondence thereafter. If the lender says "no" then your next question is "What does the borrower need to do to get the full Waiver of Deficiency?" Usually the answer will be for the seller/borrower to make a cash contribution, sign a promissory note or both.


Negotiate as hard as you can. But even then some lender/investors will NOT place a Waiver of Deficiency in writing. If that happens the borrower just needs to make a decision whether or not to go through with the Short Sale or be foreclosed on. By the way, if the Seller decides to file a Bankruptcy they will STILL be foreclosed on.


But just because they won't put it in writing certainly doesn't mean they will spend time and money in the future to go back in front of a judge to get a judgment. My guess is few lenders will do this unless the Short Sale was not done in Good Faith.

A Deficiency Judgment may be more of a fear than a reality. I personally did Short Sales in 2010 on 2 properties I owned. BofA would not give me a Deficiency Waiver. I closed anyway. 6 months after closing I received letters in the mail forgiving the debt and waiving all rights to a deficiency.

Fannie, Freddie, BofA, HUD, HAFA, VA are all good bets that a deficiency will never be pursued if the short sale was done on good faith*****. 


*****Of course I am not an Attorney nor do i play one on TV. Folks need to seek legal advice on this very important issue.

 

 

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11 Comments on The Lender Don't Give Squat About The Deficiency Language In Your Purchase Contract

MAY
06
2012
530,625 Points Outside Blog Called Shot Master

Wavers are important to the sellers.  I am glad CA did pass a law that the lenders must forgive the loan if it is an agreed short sale.

8:05am • #1
833,684 Points Outside Blog Called Shot Master

You are right, need to be very careful on short sales.   If it isn't written, won't be enforced.  Most of the time you have to insist with the lien holder, or it won't go in their terms of agreement.

8:29am • #2
381,312 Points 10 Featured Posts Outside Blog Hit Router Called Shot Master

That is an interesting post and for any looking to buy in a short sale this is a MUST read!

Kudos

8:33am • #3
479,835 Points 10 Featured Posts Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Brokier Bryant, another post filled full of relevant information. Great job and thanks.

Cal

10:05am • #4
890,802 Points Outside Blog Called Shot Master

Bryant - There are several good information on your post about deficiency language in purchase contract. Thanks for sharing it.

10:46am • #5
541,832 Points 40 Featured Posts Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

Nothing like waiting for the other shoe to drop!

With out the waiver why sell short?

Many states don't allow deficiencies on foreclosures, in witch case the "seller" would be better off going to foreclosure.

Depending on the state difincies can still be collected many years latter.

Bill

12:46pm • #6
1,053,427 Points 397 Featured Posts Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

That really depends on the State Bill. In Florida the lender will get a judgment if the property goes to foreclosure. At least with a short sale, even without the waiver, that may not happen.

1:27pm • #7
541,832 Points 40 Featured Posts Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master

By the state! Absolutely!

That's the reason I recommend a local specialist!

In FL someone like Wendy's or TLW's partner, old what's-his-name.

Bill

2:31pm • #8
262,685 Points 8 Featured Posts Outside Blog Called Shot Master

Thanks for the post Bryant, deficiency judgments are the 300lb gorilla with many shorts.

8:59pm • #9
MAY
07
2012
229,594 Points 4 Featured Posts Outside Blog Called Shot Master

As always another helpful informative blog on shortsale. Got to have waiver of deficiency on the approval letter from the lender.

9:38pm • #10
MAY
12
2012

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