Why does no one in the media understand The FED?

99% of the time I hear someone in the media or a pundit on TV talk about the FED I want to bang my head against the wall.  There is so much misinformation that gets told so many times that it seems to becomes truth to many people.  The Federal Reserve (The FED), is a half private half government banking system made up of 12 regional banks.  Just like any bank they have a balance sheet with assets and liabilities, have stock and interact with the rest of the banking system through lending and borrowing activities.

Now for a couple of misconceptions that drive me nuts:

The FED sets interest rates

The FED in fact does NOT set interest rates, either long or short, they are set by the market.  They set a Fed funds target rate which is the intended rate for overnight lending between banks.  You can not in fact borrow money at the Fed funds target rate.  They will defend this target rate either by injecting liquidity (a loan) into the banking system or withdrawing liquidity by borrowing money.  They lend money via short term loans (repos) usually having a duration of just a few days.  When the loans expire they must be paid back to the FED, plus interest.  If overnight lending rates are trending below the target rate the FED will either remove liquidity from the banking system by either not rolling over these overnight loans or doing a reverse repo and borrowing money. 

When it becomes burdensome to maintain the target rate, because the demand for overnight money has either fallen or risen too strongly to be defended, the target is changed.  The actual average overnight lending rate from the previous day between banks can be found at on the FED's website here.

The FED prints money

The FED does not print money, the treasury department controls the printing of money.  The FED does in fact get used as a conduit for getting this printed money into the system.  They do this through POMO's or Permanent Open Market Operations where they take treasuries in exchange for cash.  This happens fairly rarely, and the total amount of cash added is usually $10-20 Billion a year (including this year), a fairly small amount in the whole scheme of things. 

The FED is injecting tons of liquidity into the system 

This is one of the biggest items I see with false reporting by the media.  They will often report the amount of overnight loans made by the FED (Wow the FED injected $17 billion today) without mentioning the number of loans that expired and had to be paid back the same day.  The Slosh Report is a useful tool to see what the net of all of this is.  There is currently about $46B is these short term loans by the FED sloshing in the system, a drop in the bucket compared to the size of the banking system.  The FED simply does not have the ability to add that much money to the system even if they wanted to because they are constrained by their balance sheet, just like any other bank.

The FED adding liquidity into the system is inflationary 

Because the liquidity being added to the banking system by the FED is short term loans it is not inflationary unless the action of doing so causes the banks themselves to significantly increase lending.  In fact this added liquidity can be deflationary in the long term because the interest being paid on them is going to the FED rather than staying in the system.

Really when it comes down to it the FED's biggest power is talking, trying to jawbone the market into some action.  The fact that there are so many misconceptions in the media actually makes their job much easier.  Words can move markets much more effectively, if everybody believes you have more power to back them up.

 

 

68 Comments on Why does no one in the media understand The FED?

Because the media knows that the public doesn't understand any of this. They're in the biz of 'mishandling' the truth, and this just makes that so much easier. Nice work laying out what the FED really is/does Matt!

01/02/2008 12:44 PM by Portland Oregon Real Estate Broker * Jennifer Bukaty * (Bridgetown Realty, Inc.)


I don't think the media understands anything, they are out of touch with the people.  Its not a reporting anymore its making news.

01/02/2008 12:47 PM by Chris Frantz (Exit Success)


I know how wrong the media portrays the housing market. Now you point out how they are misinforming the public about the FED.  So, it makes me wonder... is anything in the media actually the truth?

01/02/2008 12:52 PM by Jen Hudson - Stanwood, Camano & Arlington,WA (RE/MAX Signature)


Matt, where oh where would you like me to begin and end. The list is way to long. I really like watching Fox News, but even they cannot get it correct that is why my blogs show my area all the time. I just need to do more blogs of what the market is doing here and hope that more clients will call on me to help them find their new home.

01/02/2008 12:53 PM by Susan Trombley Re/Max Broker Raleigh NC & Surrounding Areas (Re/Max Hometown)


Very well done Matt!  I hope this gets a ton of readership.

01/02/2008 02:06 PM by Jason Sardi, Pennsylvania Mortgage Broker (First Choice Equity Group Inc.)


LOL I think you are preaching to the choir from your soapbox there. If we had a No-Confidence vote of the media today, I wonder what the percentages would be.

 

01/02/2008 04:41 PM by Sarah Nopp, REALTOR(R), CRS. RE/MAX Four Seasons, Olympia WA (RE/MAX Four Seasons)


Matt,  So true.  Hopefully enough people here will read this and understand better how the money market works.  Therefore, they can better educate the public.

01/02/2008 04:45 PM by Marc Grossman, GRI - Central Florida Real Estate Specialist (Keller Williams Premier Realty)


I am fed up about the fed.  Thanks for the info.

Dick

01/02/2008 04:45 PM by Dick Betts (Dick Betts National Speaker)


Matt, great tutorial. Worthy of a bookmark. You debunked many myths in a clear, cogent fashion.

01/02/2008 04:46 PM by Andrew J. Lenza (ABR*GRI*MBA) Monmouth County NJ Real Estate Broker (Andrew J. Lenza Realty)


The Main Street Media is controlled by 5 corporations.  The pundits are "talking heads" who are told what questions to ask and if they don't like the answers, interrupt the speaker by speaking over them louder or go to commercial.

FAUX (fox) news is the absolute worst - they are even sensoring what republican candidates will speak at the New Hampshire debates.

Their treatment of Ron Paul, a highly respected 10-term Congressman from Texas, is disgusting.  Hopefully, the sheeple (sp) will wake up and know something is fishy why Ron Paul was specifically excluded.

In either case, the federal reserve (which has nothing to do with the Federal Government) is unconstitutional, a conflict of interest and has got to go!

Wake up!  You decide:  www.RonPaul2008.com.  God bless America.

01/02/2008 04:50 PM by Commercial Realty Team


Matt, I'm glad to read your post and I agree completely.

Another popular misconception is that the Fed Chairman is some sort of all-powerful monarch who is solely responsible for changes in the Federal Funds rate.  In reality, those decisions aren't made by the Chairman alone.  The Fed Board of Governors and the Open Market Committee are actively involved in all rate adjustments. 

01/02/2008 04:54 PM by Wayzata Lakes Realty: Eric Kodner Sells Luxury Homes


This is some great information! It makes one wonder why the editorials that pass (or try to pass) for news cannot in their highly educated stratosphere get this right...ulterior motives???the FCC???I dare not speak more for fear of being "black bagged" The non-reporting or "bad" reporting is an issue in itself!

01/02/2008 05:10 PM by Rich Dansereau Loan Officer Knoxville TN (Home America Mortgage)


Love this article.  So many people rely on the news and they then think rates are going down when the fed cuts the interest rate.

01/02/2008 05:15 PM by Russ Ravary-- Michigan Homes for sale-- Your local Real estate & Mortgage person (Remerica Hometown One)


Thanks for the info I know even in our industry agents don't understand the part the Fed plays in the interest rate game. Thanks for the explanation.

01/02/2008 05:16 PM by Terry Westbrook ~ Realtor(R) Grand Rapids Mi Real Estate Ada/Cascade (Five Star Real Estate, LLC Grand Rapids , MI)


I don't think it's done on purpose most of the time by the media.  They just end up eating their own BS, and just repeating it.  The markets in particular like the idea of this god like FED hanging over them that have their back (or can be blamed if things go bad).

01/02/2008 05:23 PM by Matt Heaton (ActiveRain Corp.)


Matt, This is a very informative post. I actually did not know most of this so really appreciate your insight.

01/02/2008 05:26 PM by Bryant Tutas-Tutas Towne Realty, Inc


Well, I learned something, alot of something. I think it is more than the media who doesn't understand.

Thank you!

01/02/2008 05:26 PM by Missy Caulk Ann Arbor Real Estate (Keller Williams Ann Arbor, Michigan)


Yikes....that's a lot of info..and I am glad you know it...and I get to read it from you, instead of having to figure it out...spanks..

01/02/2008 05:28 PM by Konnie McKee Northern Virginia Real Estate (Konnie McKee )


Very informative Matt. Every one in the real estate industry should have this basic knowledge. We are a capitalist system and the Fed is one of many important components. It takes some time and study to learn how all these components interact. Even then there is much debate on the importance of each. The media does not have this investment in understanding how it all works. They write headlines to sell papers (ads) and to get you to listen to the news so they can sell (ads).  And, of course, the media has a huge influence on how well capitalism works.

01/02/2008 05:56 PM by Portland Oregon Real Estate >> Wayne B. Pruner, GRI (Oregon First)


Much said in a few words.  Well put.  Where in school were we supposed to learn this stuff???

01/02/2008 05:57 PM by Marsha Cleaveland, GRI, AHWD, CNE (Keller Williams Realty Professional Partners)


I know a good bit but still could not explain it to you. I know many lenders whos talk about the fed rates and know nothing about it. Agents think they know? Something very simple lie Socail Security is hard to explain. 

01/02/2008 06:02 PM by Eric Bouler (Prudential Gardner)


Matt:

         From what I understand the Fed has never been under the same audit as most commercial banks. I believe that several senators in the past have requested an audit, but for some reason it was never done and they were never re-elected. Please correct me if I am wrong or have received bad information....Liked your article. I had posted a similar one in December.

01/02/2008 06:04 PM by Joe D'Agostino (Licensed Mortgage Banker)


No idea if they've ever had an audit or not.  Of course if you did a "real" audit on a lot of the large commercial banks out there including their off balance sheet stuff the results would probably be pretty scary.

01/02/2008 06:09 PM by Matt Heaton (ActiveRain Corp.)


Thanks for the info Matt. Now we have a better understanding of what the Fed is and does but how do we explain how it actually effects the housing market and what does it mean to buyers?

01/02/2008 06:50 PM by Nilsa Montalvo, ABR (Keller Williams Realty )


Nilsa, the FED has relatively little control over mortgage rates.  Actually the first time the dropped the target rate 50 BPS, mortgage rates didn't drop.  Same as when the FED target rate was down at 1%, 10 year mortgage rates were only around 5%

01/02/2008 06:58 PM by Matt Heaton (ActiveRain Corp.)


Matt I have been writing end of year stat letters for clients and farming neighborhoods and now I have sent a link to my office email so I can print out your post and add it to the mailing. This is good crap! lol   I love two things about it. The facts go without saying. But the ability for people to see this and then hopefully remind themselves to question everything they read, especially in the news medium - or anything they hear from 'talking heads' (unless it's david byrne :-)

Thanks for the rant !!

01/02/2008 07:01 PM by Carole Cohen (Howard Hanna Cleveland City Office)


Great info Matt!  It's amazing how many consumers are misinformed about this stuff.  I have also heard radio ads that misleed people by saying "the fed just lowered mortgage rates".

01/02/2008 07:12 PM by Kevin Hancock - The Hancock Mortgage Team (The Legacy Group; Capital/Mortgage/Escrow)


Great one Matt! I have similar urges regarding the media...no matter the subject at hand. I think the over-simplification regarding the actions of the Fed are purposeful in order to fuel the effects of their market jawboning as you put it.
To add to Joe's previous comment: the Fed has been subject to audits since the Federal Banking Agency Audit Act, enacted in 1978. It authorizes the Comptroller General to audit the Fed through the Government Accountability Office. Most of the audits I have found however, have been superfluous reports on policy with no transparent info regarding their monetary transactions. A word like "audit" takes on a whole new meaning when one is referring to the Fed. :-)

01/02/2008 07:19 PM by Darrel Brannock e-PRO (Prudential Northwest Realty)


Excellent points...one and all

01/02/2008 07:22 PM by Don Lantier


Chaces are that the people who read the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal get it. Those who get their news from TV - well put yourself in their shoes. You have maybe 60 seconds to tell the nation that the Fed cut rates, but it won't have an effect on your mortgage. You can't leave it there and they don't have the time to explain it.

01/02/2008 07:25 PM by Simon Conway (Picket Fence Realty)


Simon I hear you - especially since we need a good three minutes for photos and story on Brit Spears' sister's pregnancy. LOL

01/02/2008 07:27 PM by Carole Cohen (Howard Hanna Cleveland City Office)


thanks for stating the facts as they are...not as the media and everyone else wants to believe they are. This is something I quite often hear from buyers and constantly have to have long conversations with them in order to educate them that there is no direct correlation between the fed and the interest rate they may get.

01/02/2008 07:33 PM by Josh Ross (RE/MAX PROS)


Carole - too funny!  Sadly, I know more about that than I did about the Fed before I read Matt's post, only because the media won't stop shoving that junk all over the place. 

I'm glad to see Bryant and Missy say they didn't know all this, too, because I sure didn't know most of what Matt wrote.  And I'm going to have to go read it again to make sure I understand it.

Thanks Matt for this info.
Ann

01/02/2008 07:44 PM by Portsmouth NH Real Estate ~ Ann Cummings (RE/MAX Coast to Coast - Portsmouth New Hampshire)


We all hear about the Fed Chairman weilding lots of power and some seem to interpret that in many ways, some not very factual

01/02/2008 07:59 PM by Michael Eisenberg, Bellingham Realtor (Fairhaven Realty)


Matt, pretty much on target but you're teaching out of the book and not from the wallet.

The Federal Reserve Board does not set interest rates as we know them is true - the hiccup comes not just with the Fed and their 12 regional banks but hits our wallets when you get into the hundreds of private member banks which control enough of the lending reserves to adjust to the rate recommendations by the Feds. The Feds DO directly set the federal discount rate which has a direct impact on the interest rates charged to the borrowing clients by their member banks. And, if you are a small lender like us, your rate is set by the member bank where you get your warehouse line which is passed to the retail borrower.

If you remember from first year economics one of the main purposes behind the creation of the Fed was to stabilize the control and value of federal notes and to protect the nation from financial panic. Their recent adjustments throughout the early parts of this millennium are evidence that the rates proposed by the Feds have a direct and powerful influence on the economic status of the nation.

The Fed has a major impact on the economy, interest rates and the stability of the value of money. True it *should not* be so but it is. Partly because, as you indicate, their true limitations of power are little known and less understood. Of course I'm no fan of the Fed so I would end by saying the media gives too much authority to the Feds and the people don't do enough to challenge it.

01/02/2008 08:05 PM by Novation Mortgage


Ken, yes the FED can have a great stabalizing impact by increasing liquidity in the system via short terms loans when a crisis occurs.  For example in the weeks following 9/11 they temporarily pumped a ton of liquidity into the system, but it didn't stay in there for long.  If it's a longer term crisis, that can't simply be solved by liquidity they don't have the ability to hold the line.

Yes, banks can borrow at the discount rate that for the last several years has been set 50-100 BPS above the target rate (basically it's a penalty)  But very little borrow happens at the discount window because it's seen as a sign of weakness for the borrower.  I think the total discount borrowing is just a couple billion right now, not even worth mentioning in the sea of our banking system.

There's a big argument to be made that the hundreds of banks don't adjust to the FED but rather the FED adjusts to them.  They can't lower the target rate if they would have too inject to much money via repos to defend it. 

01/02/2008 08:14 PM by Matt Heaton (ActiveRain Corp.)


Fed, can't live them, pass the beer nuts

01/02/2008 10:06 PM by Dave Woodson (Indigo Financial Group Inc.)


Hey, Matt, great topic, you've just articulated the very reason I don't pay much attention to mainstream news sources anymore.  Most of us working professionals have to get our news and information from talk radio and the blogosphere.  You're absolutely right, the Federal Reserve is no more "federal" than Federal Express, and it's a shame that most people don't understand how this fractional banking system works.

 

01/02/2008 10:30 PM by Scott Perry (Jireh Business Information Solutions, Inc.)


Gee another example of how the press writes mindless articles for morning coffee fodder.  Thank you for pointing this out Matt, too bad no one who works at the papers actually cares.  SM

01/02/2008 11:18 PM by Thank you!!


Matt - I've had this explained to me many times but I've found it hard to explain in return, which means I still didn't fully understand.  I will bookmark this article for sure!  Thanks.

01/02/2008 11:28 PM by Debbie White, RE/MAX of Juneau, Alaska (RE/MAX of Juneau)


How rates are set should be real estate 102.  Most realtors could not find thereway in the dark on this one, thank you for taking the time!

01/03/2008 01:09 AM by E Jeffrey Dolfinger (24/7 Realty)


Well done Matt!  This was a necessary post and very well stated.  Good to see you onthe big board on the Rain! It leaves us pondering... is a false sense of security what the public really wants? No, what they want is a better understanding of how they are affected by the media, and exactly what the banks do and don't do. Thank you for posting this!

01/03/2008 05:29 AM by Allison Stewart REALTOR ®St. Cloud Florida (Florida Pines Realty, Inc)


Thanks for your clarification here, hopefully many others both agents and consumers will read this and learn something from it!

01/03/2008 07:03 AM by Michael Klijanowicz - Relocation Specialist - Baltimore & Harford County (Baltimore & Harford County Maryland - Long and Foster )


Matt this is a great post and am bookmarking to pass along. 

01/03/2008 08:28 AM by Naoma Doriguzzi -Wachovia Mortgage (Wachovia Mortgage, FSB)


Matt -- Excellent lesson.  The mishandling and shallow reporting of information by the media is frustrating but affords us the opportunity to provide indepth correction and explanation as you did. . . I hope consumers are reading and learning.

01/03/2008 09:16 AM by Lori Gilmore - Will County Illinois Realtor (Radcliffe Realty)


Cleared up some of MY misconceptions about the FED.  I knew a lot of it (somewhere in the dusty back recesses of my brain) but this brought it back out front, and the part about the FED and their role of contracting and expanding liquidity was new to me.  Thanks.  

01/03/2008 11:26 AM by Lane Bailey - The REALTOR for Car People (Century 21 Network Realty)


Matt,

It's a popular misconception among the public and also many in real estate that the Fed controls mortgage interest rates. It doesn't. Yet, when you explain this to people they look at you strange because the media has managed to mistakenly convince them of that.

01/03/2008 12:09 PM by Esko Kiuru - Las Vegas NV Mortgage Consultant (Sinifox Financial)


Thank you for bringing clarity to the mud the media has been creating.

01/03/2008 12:32 PM by Randy L. Prothero - Hawaii REALTOR® (Century 21 Liberty Homes)


Wow. This makes a lot of sense. I really didn't understand what the target rate was, and now I do. Thanks so much for clearing that up. I watch CNBC each morning, and they have never mentioned anything like this. Thanks!

01/03/2008 02:07 PM by Team Carroll, Cranford,Westfield NJ Area Real Estate Professionals (Team Carroll - RE/MAX Classic Group)


Thanks for putting it so clearly. This will help me explain it better to my clients.

01/03/2008 02:22 PM by Israel Barden (Coldwell Banker Mountain Gallery)


Is this the same media that says the "national real estate market" is in the crapper?

 

01/03/2008 03:00 PM by Jim Lee, Knoxville area Realtor® (Realty Executives Associates)


Kinda makes you wish people took ECONOMICS in school ... or at least remembered it.

01/03/2008 08:15 PM by Allen Wright CNS, AHS, REPS (RealtyU)


Matt, a man of your stature and position should read, "The Creature from Jekyll island.  by G. Edward Griffin who also founded Freedom Force Internationsl check it out at  http://www.freedom-force.org/freedom.cfm?fuseaction=issues  his book reads like a spy novel, you won't be able to put it down and I assure you, you will be angry.  Also check out Aaron Russo video,"Amerca, Freedom to Fascism."   It is an amazing documentary that never got any publicity last year. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173&q=aaron+russo&total=590&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2

a must see for every American.  You have accomplished a great thing here in creating Active Rain and providing a great platform and forum for the people to speak.  A sincere tip of the hat and Congratulations.  ktm

01/03/2008 10:08 PM by Prudential California Realty/Bristol Home Loans


Very insightful. Thanks Matt. I always feel like I'm have to educate my clients against the misperceptions created in the press.

01/04/2008 01:13 AM by Aaron Hofmann (Keller Williams Realty)


Matt...

It's me again :)

Cuzz. They don't 'WANT' to understand :)

Still not reading them and you can't make me :)

TLW...ROAR!

01/04/2008 03:42 PM by "The Lovely Wife"...Broker Bryant's Wife... (Co-Owner Tutas Towne Realty, Inc.)


hmmm... What do you say to people who claim the fed is an entirely private organization, a central bank exactly like the one that the founding fathers knew would damage the country if it ever came to be, and that 100% of all personal income tax dollars collected by the federal government goes to paying interest to private bankers who OWN the fed, and that since the creation of the FED, the purchasing power of the dollar has gone from it's original worth of 100 cents (100 percent) to approximately 5% of it's original value in the time since 1913 when the fed was created.... Definitely read "The Creature From Jekyll Island"....It's an eye opener. If what they say is true, well.....

01/04/2008 04:06 PM by Chris Atkins


Accurately quoting the Fed is boring. Interpreting the Fed is fun! Even Greenspan admitted (on 60 minutes, no less!) that he made up the occasional non-sensical phrase to see how it would be reported.

01/05/2008 02:02 AM by Chuck Willman, Arizona Realtor®, ABR, TRC (Gentry Realty & Investments)


Great post and information.  Educational too. But not much sensation.... the truth is pretty dull. Bookmarked for when I want a dose of the truth. Thanks,  That's a wrap.

01/05/2008 04:48 AM by Rosemary Brooks -Mother & Daughter (866)-750-8282 (Family Realty Group - 866-750-8282)


The FED in fact does NOT set interest rates, either long or short, they are set by the market.

It's true that the market sets the rates. It's also true that the Fed overnight rate is a significant influence upon the market. And ARMs are still tracking overnight rates.
 

The FED does not print money, the treasury department controls the printing of money. 

A technicality, really.

 

The FED is injecting tons of liquidity into the system

At best, this is a semantic dispute anent the meaning of "tons." Since the Fed dropped the publication of M3 two years ago, international currency and commodity prices imply that the greenback has lost 19%-22% of its value.

There are quite a few ways that could happen, but the most likely scenario is that the dollar has been badly devalued since 2006 by reckless, large scale printing of new money and injection of that new paper into the money supply, an attempt to supply an alternate pipeline of cheap cash to the failing credit markets.

 

The FED adding liquidity into the system is inflationary

It is ABSOLUTELY inflationary. Forget the short-term loans; that's a strawman you've created. The primary form of injection is through the money supply, not the discount or overnight windows. Since M3 is now hidden, we have to turn to the indirect indicators (commodities and major international floating currencies) to quantify ... and, without exception, every indicator points of a large scale injection of new paper since 2006.

01/06/2008 03:37 PM by Robert Kerr (Kerr Financial)


Matt, I read your post in its entirety and all the comments. I mean no disrespect, but it has been said that there is nothing more dangerous than a little bit of learning. The thing about the Fed is that they are the masters of obsfucation. Nothing is as it seems.

As for the Fed's influence on short-term rates, think of it like a venturi. The jet of money from the Fed controls the flow of money. Over night rates between banks establish a baseline for short-term rates. The Fed controls the banks need for over-night borrowings because the Fed establishes Reserve Requirements for each bank. If they had no reserve requirement, then they could get by without borrowing short-term. The reserve requirement is set by the Fed and can be changed at will. Thus the Fed determines the need for member bank's borrowings. It is not honest to say that the Fed doesn't "set" rates because the market is free to move any way it wants.

Again, the Fed controls the market by increasing or decreasing liquidity by means of reserve requiirements and whether they buy or sell treasuries. The Fed absolutely controls the market.

This subject is too complicated for a discussion here but I think we all need to at least know the basics.

Bill Roberts

01/07/2008 06:28 PM by Bill Roberts - "Baby Boomer" Retirement Planning (Brooks and Dunphy Real Estate)


Matt - thanks for the fed primer, i call it that instead of a rant. missed it when it came out, but caught it via jason's review. cool. 

hope the new year is serving you well

cheers 

01/09/2008 08:52 AM by Gary Bolen (CRS) Lake Tahoe Real Estate Information (Dickson Realty - South Lake Tahoe)


Robert, M3 is a very bad indicator of overall monetary expansion because most monetary expansion occurred through the credit creation in our fractional lending system and isn't correctly measured by M3 (thus why it was discontinued).  There has been NO large scale printing of money the last couple years, that is complete bullshit that keeps getting spewed by people when the data says the opposite.

The actually monetary supply through printing of money and put into the banking system via POMO operations has been less than $20B a year, much less than inflation.  It's fractional lending and structured finance that has created the inflation of the last couple years.  Your M3 number undereported the inflationary effects of this and also won't correctly show the deflationary effects happening now.

01/09/2008 04:28 PM by Matt Heaton (ActiveRain Corp.)


Bill, you bring up a good point about the FED's control of reserve requirements.  Though it's not something they just change at will very often.  They did make a very dangerous move earlier this year in lowering the reserve requirements for last banks via 23-A exemption letters.  This move did not work though, as it just created a bigger problem in the long term.   

01/09/2008 04:33 PM by Matt Heaton (ActiveRain Corp.)


Matt this has been one of my fav posts over the last two weeks; and I love it when you get hot and bothered LOL

The scariest thing is what you said about deflation. I am one of those people Bill refers too, a little knowledge ....but I agree and I think if we don't get a handle on this and mostlyl the credit situation, both individual and governmental debt, we will be in more serious trouble than we could have imagined five years from now.

01/10/2008 01:00 AM by Carole Cohen (Howard Hanna Cleveland City Office)


Matt,

Our friend Ms. Bukaty recommended that I read some of your posts as you are an intelligent individual.  She is right, and this was my first one of yours.  It was concise and accurate.  Thanks for your time on this post, rant or not, it is timely.  Here's to a successful 2008 for all of us...even the fed.  :-)

01/26/2008 01:48 AM by Sarah Eubanks ~ Preferred Oregon Loan Consultant & Notary Public (Hill Valley Financial Services)


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