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31 Comments on ONE MUST Understand Paint Before One Paints!
Very informative piece Jay, I’m surprised a paint thinner wasn’t applied to the original coat before the repainting process began; I guess somebody was just in a hurry.
Hi Jay - My very first job, many, many years ago, was working part-time at the Sherwin-Williams store afternoons after high school and Saturdays. At first, I wasn't competent to do much more than ring stuff up at the register - what always amazed me about the place was that everyone else who worked there were experts - they really knew their paint, and there was an awful lot to know. After two years, I was still just getting started. And that experience still helps me today - it's surprising how little the basics have changed over the years.
Eric - paint thinner will not affect dried oil-based paint. You might be thinking of the paint roughing agent. But still, oil-based must be primed before a latex paint can be applied.
Dick - all products change with time! The VOCs for instance have changed dramatically. And you are right, there is a ton to know in a paint store!
Jay, Preparation for painting is the most overlooked step on a paint job. Making sure the paints are compatible, that the surface is clean and free of loose debris. Redoing the caulking (with paint-able caulking) and repairs prior to painting and so on. A good painter will cost some money because they will do all of these things.
Jay, so many things can go wrong with painting---and why there is such a huge turnover in painting businesses.
Jay, Great post as always. This is great info for the uninformed. I have done some structure painting but much more automotive painting. My family's Mack Truck dealership had a body shop for a long time. I was put to work in it at a very young age. Compared to structure painting, automotive painting is much more difficult.
Don - preparation is certainly the key. Anything loose is a recipe for failure. I always caulk between the prime and paint coats. It adheres better and the priming reveals the gaps better.
Charlie - and turnover because few make it a profession. It is stop gap between other things, and proper techniques are not learned.
Tom - I bet! I don't know anything about it, but surface prep, dust-free air, consistency of the layer of the coat, etc., all probably are just the beginning!
Jay, with so much information available, there is no valid excuse for not knowing. When I know I "can't", I hire someone that "can"
Jay- this is a very useful post. Many people just slap paint on walls with know idea of how to prep the walls or what paint to use. Great tips too.
My understanding is that putting latex over oil will peel all the paint layers. Latex does bond to the oil, but because of chemical and physical differences, peeling is sure to occur. My guess for your poor paint above is that the surface wasn't preped before paint, another common mistake.
Chris - smart practice. But labels are there too. Sure, there are a lot of words and you need a magnifying glass, but the labels are pretty good. And with the internet now it is easy to research stuff.
Eric - agreed. The same goes with caulking and duct tape. There are so many duct tape colors now you'd think people would wise up...
Jim - they have different surfectants! The chemist at Duron told me once (I have always asked questions to learn) that the oil and latex surfectants don't like each other! But you are right, priming first makes a latex layer permanent.
I know that I don't know much about paint. That's why I hire professionals to do the job.
Chris Ann - tomorrow I will have the first of two posts, "The Do's of Painting." Enjoy! Maybe you can hire your husband!
But pay him a going rate and don't give him a big head...
Hey, Jay! I included this post in Last Week's Favorites. Have a great week.
Hi Jay. Missed this article the first time around, but jumped over from Pat's fav's. There are so many products and applications out there that I have hit the net for research and consulted the pro 's at the paint store before starting a project. The extra prep saves a ton of time after the fact.
Cool tip on testing the paint, Jay! BTW I am coming over from Patricia's list of favorites.
Thanks Big Hand! I see you're still looking up.
Carol Ann - then you will enjoy my post today! Glad you stopped by.
Teral - the big hand found me again! And also, glad you stopped by! Today's post is 1 of 2.
Jay, this is a great post, I really appreciate that you included the handy tip on how to identify the paint type that is pre-existing, you're not only pointing out a problem, but supplying the solution, couldn't ask for more in a good blog!
Jay, everything you said is true and then some. The hardest part is to keep the sprayer moving in even smooth strokes. A Short cough can mean a glob of paint. The hardest part physically is the heat from all the lights in the paint booth.
Thanks Tanja. Stop by any time. This post spurred me into thinking about the next two. You might enjoy them too.
And thank you too Tom. Painters need to learn when to loosen the trigger and cough!
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