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18 Comments on Of Vicious circles, virtuous cycles in the agent/client relationship…
May we enjoy an infinite loop of good karma in the virtuous cyccles.
Call me stupid but I approach every buyer and seller trying to create trust. There is always more to the story. The days with trusting someone walking in the door are over. Just have to put your best foot forward.
Sad but true - I often find that I have to defend myself when meeting new clients. Not because of anything I've done, but because of precisely what you are writing about. It doesn't take much to ruin things for others and the results are very long lasting.
As Warren Buffet says, trust takes years to build, and can disappear in 5 minutes... Good post.
Trust and respect were two items I gave automatically until the other side did something to lose it. Now days I am surprised at how many times I ask "are you being honest with me?" a question I never asked in the past.
Never thought I would see the day where I would require a written agreement with everyone new I deal with but I don't work for free and I especially don't work for free for another agent that has taught his prospect to use us. So I blame the public and give many agents equal blame for what seems to be a common problem today. Yes we had some of these in the old days but only occasionally.
A truth be told post Ruthmarie. There's a lot going on in your article, but to sum it up, I agree 100%. One of the worst situations to be in is where no one trusts the other. For me, it's insulting since I practice real estate with integrity and I'm lumped in with the dime a dozen. Of course, you are correct that no one values this. But, on the other hand, if I requested a retainer upfront, then I'm pushed aside for someone who doesn't. People want it both ways and being in the middle of that makes me agree with your wholeheartedy.
Hi Michelle - Amen!
Hi Bill - In the incident above I did just that and proved my value and then some. This buyer/seller wanted cost of living spreadsheets, closing cost estimates - in other words he was milking the situation for everything that it was worth because he knew the homes would be sold by the time he sold his. I did my job and did it very, very well. The reward could have been very sweet. Two transactions worth about 1.8 million. Trouble is he never had any intention of going to the closing table with me. You have to protect yourself as best you can and presenting a contract is now essential because people simply can not be trusted to do the right thing.
Hi Margaret - it is true. A few bad apples can really spoil it for everyone. Unfortunately, a fair number of the bad apples around here are top producers. Most got to where they are though hard work and skill, but enough slipped through working the "dark side" to cause real credibility problems. Look at it this way. This "top agent" that is so highly recommended and has awards coming out of their ears is found to be not-so-honest. That impacts the entire industry.
Hi Gary - Thank you for quoting my favorite billionaire. Very true.
Hi Brian - You are echoing what many are now seeing and saying. I came in late to this field (late 2005) saw the insanity of the bubble just as it was bursting. I never knew a time when clients were all that trustworhty. I found from the get-go that you had to watch your back. I didn't for a long time because I could close about half of the sales by brute force. But that was before the crisis of 2008. Its too bad that this crisis has caused people to devolve in the honesty department. My grandfather lived through the great depression. He felt people pulled together during that time and the world got less selfish. That sure didn't happen this time around.
Hi Everyone -
I think everybody should read JMac's post Integrity…maybe the missing link in real estate…for everyone.
It was very well written and outlines a great deal of what I stated here.
Hi Carla - Yes the post was a bit "busy". But I wanted to coherant examples - one from each side of the equation. It is a vicious circle that can be put ultimately at the feet of NAR and large brokerages and individual franchises that just want to play the numbers game. Raising the barriers to entry, keeping strict tabs on agents that have been reapeatedly criticised for poor behavior (top producers not withstanding) raising barriers to entry and culling those found to be out and out dishonest would go a very long way to correcting this problem. Some of these dishonest types are protected by their brokers because they produce. But it isn't what they produce that should matter it is what and HOW they produce it!
After all, people value what is rare. The dime a dozen mentality of our industry devalues it for everyone, consumer, agent, broker - everyone. We are just left to cope with the results.
Yes, it is definitely challenging and in your field, trust is paramount. The really good clients understand this and understand it's a two way street.
These things that you mention in your post are invisible yet that shape the character of the one using it for the better. For those that don't, their character suffers...Some say that the character is what journeys on. If this is so, then integrity and honest makes for a good set of wings
This made me think of the FSBO, who is approached by an agent who gives them stacks of paperwork and stories to scare them into listing with them. Gosh, that really gives us a bad name and lumps us into the shark category. It also makes me think of the few times I was lied to and spent lots of hours doing free work, that turned into nothing. Trust is a valuable thing.
Ruthmarie:
I believe people. I do ask motivation and if there is a Realtor lurking in the back ground. However, if a prospective customer says no to all my question, then I trust that what they are telling me is true. I have been stung a few times, but most people are upfront with me.
Most of the time you can tell from the beginning what the prospect's motive is, unless they are just out and out liars. Asking them all the right questions, showing them the buyer agreement, telling them you'll show them for one day without it and that they have to sign it to see more properties or to get more information from me works like a charm usually. Those truly seeking an agent are happy they get a day to get to know you before they sign, and the others, well, they know they won't get more than one day out of you for "free" and they go on their way pretty fast.
I love this post Ruthmarie and it is so true. My trust in buyers has eroded and caused me to be overly sensitive to those I am working with because I have been let down before. However, I won't work with buyers anymore that won't sign an agreement there are just too many that don't respect my time.
I don't think it's because they are mean and unethical, I think it's because they really don't understand that we work hard for our money and therefore kind of devalue what we do.
I have exp;erienced buyers who manipulate agents... and some agents fall for this.
Hi Ruthmarie, My sense is that trust may be developed better when in close proximity. that said, it is no wonder that clients who come to us over the internet ( lack of proximity ) are less prone to develop a real relationship and thus demonstrate any real loyalty !
Great post - think it's all just part of the business and goes with the territory - all we can do as agents is act ethically and build trusting relationships and hope for the same in return. Regards, Dave