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One Structural Thing Leads To Another And Then To Another

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Home Inspector with Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC 3380-000723

Structural settlement is unpredictable as to its time frame, but one structural thing leads to another and then to another.

When structural movement is detected it is hard to know if it has happened slowly (in the case of this house for over 40 years) or in the last couple of years if they have been wetter than normal.  My guess is that this particular movement has been slow.

Chimneys can move and this chimney, located right center of the side of this end-of-the-row townhouse, has come off about 3/4". 

Between the chimney and the front stoop is about 20' of low brick wall, onto which rests aluminum siding.

The front end of the house is composed of a brick stoop which is about 4' high, leading to the front door.

Is the one thing (chimney movement) leading to another, and then to another?  That downspout drains RIGHT BESIDE the foundation wall, and that is never helpful.  So, all things considered, what is going on?

The movement is obvious.

And what I suspected was going on inside was in fact going on inside!

This spot, combined with the downspout discharge, looked the most suspicious to me.  Everything is opening up!

How much of a crack does water need to get in?  And how much movement can a concrete block foundation take?

The closet under the stairs was so full of "stuff" that I had to virtually swim over it to get to see the corner I wanted to see.  This would be directly under that gap in the siding beside the stoop.

It had rained two days prior to my inspection.  Perfect timing to see if moisture is getting in.  And fortunately that corner was not blocked with lost of that "stuff!"  If so, I would only have been able to say what I suspected, without documentation.  This photo is documentation.

I THINK THIS HAS BEEN HAPPENING FOR SOME TIME.

And I think the tenants know it is happening and don't put "stuff" there so it doesn't get wet!

My recommendation:  one thing truly leads to another.  There is always a logical progression with structure.  In this case it was possible to see the results.  Sometimes the belongings and "stuff" are not so forgiving and things cannot be viewed.  But when they can be viewed, physics and logic are pretty consistent.

 

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Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC  

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia.

Office (703) 330-6388   Cell (703) 585-7560

www.jaymarinspect.com


Comments(35)

Rob Ernst
Certified Structure Inspector - Reno, NV
Reno, NV-775-410-4286 Inspector & Energy Auditor

Masonry can absorb lots of water so when it's oozing out of it that's usually not a good sign. Plus water is great at pushing stuff around.

Jun 10, 2012 04:33 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Bliz - it's hard to know just how long things have been going on, but I think this one has been a while.  Is it ongoing?  Probably also.

Mike - this looks to have been something needing to be addressed years ago.  To let it go makes things worse.

Thank you W&J, but you probably have them!

Richie - the veterans do, the newbies think everything will only go up from here!

Jun 10, 2012 05:01 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Wayne - I think this one thinks that doing so guarantees a sale at a later date.  But we don't know what we don't know!

Gary - this one is exacerbated to be sure!  And apparently the tenants know!

You're welcome John.  People need to understand that houses are systems and everything is connected somehow.

This is oozing for sure Rob!  And those walls are probably full up!  That water problem probably shows up every rain storm, in some way.

Jun 10, 2012 05:03 AM
William Johnson
Retired - La Jolla, CA
Retired

Hi Jay, With our soils here in California, we see settling quite frequently. On raised foundations it seems that it would be somewhat less difficult to correct. On slab and where basements are present, it can be some very costly repairs. Is it more our poor building methods or do you suggest other reasons why this type of issue can be so prevalent. I have seen homes that are well over a 100 years old , sitting as firm and water tight as when they were built. Obviously things in construction have changed and not always for the better.

 

Jun 10, 2012 06:53 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

I think modern suffers from a malady called "professionalism," Bill, or the lack thereof.

Jun 10, 2012 08:21 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

You're welcome Ann, and yes, drainage is one of the most important things outside the house.  The skin is important too!

Jun 10, 2012 10:17 AM
Joan Whitebook
BHG The Masiello Group - Nashua, NH
Consumer Focused Real Estate Services

You are one good inspector.. You are on top of things.. and know where to look to see if there are indications for further problems!

Jun 10, 2012 11:57 AM
Evelyn Kennedy
Alain Pinel Realtors - Alameda, CA
Alameda, Real Estate, Alameda, CA

Jay:

Lucky you were called to inspect the problem.  You found evidence of water intrusion in the house unfortunately for the owner.

Jun 10, 2012 01:38 PM
Steven Cook
No Longer Processing Mortgages. - Tacoma, WA

Jay -- as I suspected, more pictures from the house where the principals are all overseas.  It is too bad the owners haven't had a property inspection done some time in the past, to keep track of what might have been happening.

Jun 10, 2012 01:48 PM
Eric Salonga
The Salonga Brothers at Reed Realty - Ceres, CA
Your Key to the Central Valley

The great domino effect.  Thanks for sharing.

Jun 10, 2012 03:35 PM
Gary Frimann, CRS, GRI, SRES
Eagle Ridge Realty / Signature Homes & Estates - Gilroy, CA
REALTOR and Broker

Yep, deferred maintainance turns into a real expensive repair.  I've seen it a lot...

Jun 10, 2012 07:04 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Joan - thanks, and in this house I got to go swimming over a bunch of stored stuff!

Evelyn - this gets fixed no matter what happens.  I think it's a huge problem.

Steven - who know when or if it was last inspected.  But these problems have been there a while I think!

Gary - this is the very definition of deferred!  And done right I think it will take a few pennies.

Jun 10, 2012 08:00 PM
Chris Ann Cleland
Long and Foster Real Estate - Gainesville, VA
Associate Broker, Bristow, VA

You should've put The Fixx's song in here as background music.  

Jun 11, 2012 03:03 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Not a bad idea Chris Ann!  Can you come over and show me how to do that?  I will be home about 7 tonight.

Thanks!

Jun 11, 2012 03:29 AM
Chris Smith
Re/Max Chay Realty Inc., Brokerage - New Tecumseth, ON
South Simcoe, Caledon, King, Orangeville Real Esta

Jay, that is why a "band-aid" rarley works, we must find the underlying (or root) cause and address that.

Jun 11, 2012 07:24 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

They don't work Chris!  This is a job requiring a real pro.

Jun 11, 2012 10:37 AM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

That wall has been getting wet a long time. The fact that no stuff was in the way would be a good indication that it's wet there most of the time. 

Jun 11, 2012 09:37 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

I agree Jim, and the tenants appear to know not to put stuff there!

Jun 12, 2012 11:38 AM
Sally K. & David L. Hanson
EXP Realty 414-525-0563 - Brookfield, WI
WI Real Estate Agents - Luxury - Divorce

These things seem to take on a life of their own....and one that no one really wants to address.

Jun 12, 2012 02:10 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

S&D - if they want to sell this house, it will get addressed now!

Jun 12, 2012 08:33 PM