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But BLiz, It's A BUYER'S Market!!!

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QuestionBut BLiz, It's A BUYER'S Market!!!

Whattaya mean the seller didn't accept my offer?  Everyone KNOWS buyers rule the market right now!!  Yes, I know I offered 90% of list AND asked for thousands of dollars in closing, and boy did that sharp washer/dryer set look pretty appealing so I asked for that too.  But so what, it IS a BUYER'S market!  Right?  Right?.......

And this ladies and gentlemen is what separates contract writers from home owners to be.  Of course each market is different, and there's a lot of signs that might make you think a seller is ripe for the plucking, but those signs might be false.  And you've got your reasons, but don't assume the seller will agree with them.

Q: The seller has been on the market for 253.68 days.  Surely they're ready to take ANY deal by now?

A:  Maybe.  But maybe not.  Sellers have a certain financial threshold to hit.  They're NOT willing to go short sale and hose their credit, but they may be willing to bring some money to closing.  Or maybe they're holding out for a certain amount to make the down payment on their next home.  In either case, what they're not going to accept is just any offer.  They don't HAVE to be anywhere on a specific time table and they'll wait.  We encounter this situation regularly as listing agents.  As long as we all have our cards on the table and they can be patient, we'll take that listing, even if we expect it to be months and months to possibly make the sale.

Q:  They just dropped their price, surely they're ready now?

A:  See above answer.  They still have a bottom line to be met.  And guess what, that price drop may have just put a bunch more eyeballs on their property and feet through their door.  That home just attracted another offer (or two), and if the other buyers aren't playing the low offer game, the home may be theirs.

Q:  But don't they have to ask me for my best offer before accepting another offer?

A:  Uhhhh, NO!  They CAN choose to let everyone know and ask for "highest and best", but they don't have to.  In fact if that 2nd offer comes in and immediately meets the seller's needs, that offer might be accepted before you can even blink.  Solid offer, solid terms and THEY showed appreciation for the home with a serious offer right from the start.  Human nature is to kick you to the curb.

Q:  But can't I take off for that new carpet I want?  And the fresh paint?  And the new kitchen countertops?

A:  Another maybe.  If the seller fully recognizes the carpet is shot they MIGHT cut you a break on that.  But if on the other hand the home is ALREADY priced for its condition, you don't get to deduct twice.  And when you start getting into "nice to have" vs. "necessary", you better make sure you're truly calibrated as to what to expect for our area's price points.  Thinking you're entitled to granite counters in a $125k home is just going to get you laughed at.  Hope you've got mad masonry skills or a cousin in the remodeling business, because that's an upgrade you'll be doing on your own.

Q:  I've waited a few weeks since the last time I submitted my offer, surely it will work THIS time?

A:  Only if the financial demands or emotional needs of the sellers changed between then and now.  And chances are, nothing has changed.  Ask yourself, do you REALLY want this home?  Are you going to be bummed when you see a SOLD sign in the yard and it's NOT from your contract?  If the answer is no, keep trying.  And maybe your buyer's agent will keep doing it for you.  Maybe.....

So here's the deal.  Real estate is full of a LOT of maybes.  A home can be on the market for a year and not have an offer until the evening you turn in your offer.  Murphy's Law.  Been there, done that, got the T-shirt.  Many sellers don't HAVE to sell, but they WANT to sell.  And they'll wait if they have to.  So if you're a gambler and you just "have to try for the steal", go for it.  But don't be disappointed if it doesn't work.  That's the price of admission.

Serving Warren County's residential real estate needs,
Liz and Bill aka BLiz

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Comments(21)

Liz and Bill Spear
Transaction Alliance 513.520.5305 www.LizTour.com - Mason, OH
Transaction Alliance Cincinnati & Dayton suburbs

Nancy, We have some pockets driving the similar activity, but not quite to the over list price yet.  Still lots of inventory, BUT a home that is primo and priced competitively may draw serious attention in a hurry.  Buyers need to realize what attracts them may just attract lots of other attention too.

Jun 12, 2012 06:26 AM
Jane Peters
Home Jane Realty - Los Angeles, CA
Los Angeles real estate concierge services

That happens all the time.  The minute someone shows an interest in a property, no matter how long it has been on the market, it is like sharks smelling blood in the water.  If you want the house, make the appropriate offer.  If you want to play games the other side might not be in the mood.

Jun 12, 2012 06:27 AM
Liz and Bill Spear
Transaction Alliance 513.520.5305 www.LizTour.com - Mason, OH
Transaction Alliance Cincinnati & Dayton suburbs

Jane, It's bizarre how often that happens, but it happens.  Perhaps due to a recent price adjustment, perhaps pure coincidence, but it's a tough game to play if you REALLY want the home.

Jun 12, 2012 08:15 AM
John McCormack, CRS
Albuquerque Homes Realty - Albuquerque, NM
Honesty, Integrity, Results, Experienced. HIRE Me!

Bill and Liz, I'm dealing more and more with the same shocked questions as home buyers are still thinking it's a buyers market.  In our area things have turned around and the sellers are sticking to their guns.

Jun 12, 2012 08:21 AM
Liz and Bill Spear
Transaction Alliance 513.520.5305 www.LizTour.com - Mason, OH
Transaction Alliance Cincinnati & Dayton suburbs

John, As primarily listing agents, that pendulum shift towards a more rational market has been anxiously awaited.  Personally, we'd like a nice balance where neither side feels entitled to abuse the other.

Jun 12, 2012 08:23 AM
Brenda Mullen
RE/MAX Associates - San Antonio, TX
Your San Antonio TX Real Estate Agent!!

You say it all and so well :)!  A buyers market doesn't mean that you get to lowball the sellers and get everything you want...terms...the washer and dryer...etc.

Sellers have needs too and it's all about the meeting of the minds.  Sure, try the lowball, but if it doesn't work and you really want the home, it's time to get real and work on getting the home rather than the "deal".  

Suggested of course..

Jun 12, 2012 08:48 AM
Liz and Bill Spear
Transaction Alliance 513.520.5305 www.LizTour.com - Mason, OH
Transaction Alliance Cincinnati & Dayton suburbs

Brenda, Going after the "steal" even once may prove once too often depending on circumstances.  Perhaps the seller's emotions get in the way even if the counter is acceptable.  Perhaps someone else offers during the "ping pong" game and that's all that's needed.  Meeting of the minds is right, bring the two sides to an acceptable meeting point, might be more the seller's side, might be more the buyer's side, but if that meeting doesn't happen, all the dancing was just a waste of time.

Jun 12, 2012 08:58 AM
Anna "Banana" Kruchten
HomeSmart Real Estate - Phoenix, AZ
602-380-4886

Bliz sounds like your market is still trying to get going. Our has been in mulitple offer land for well over a year and it's even crazier now. Nothing stays on the market long (all things being equal) for more than a few days or week. Buyers by now are well aware that they need to get the idea that they're going to 'steal' it and put in their highest and best first.  

Jun 12, 2012 10:56 AM
Paul S. Henderson, REALTOR®, CRS
Fathom Realty Washington LLC - Tacoma, WA
South Puget Sound Washington Agent/Broker!

Interesting BLiz, People in Ohio ask the same questions as those in Washington State. I thought we cornered the market on those questions... 

Jun 12, 2012 10:58 AM
Liz and Bill Spear
Transaction Alliance 513.520.5305 www.LizTour.com - Mason, OH
Transaction Alliance Cincinnati & Dayton suburbs

AB, Totally different here.  Still typically months and months to sell, although the best of the best do draw rapid attention.   We just finished up a multiple offer situation after about 4 months on the market.  A recent price drop made it really appealing.  One buyer got that concept, the other went for the steal. 

Paul, Some things are just universal :)  We've either been on the buyer or seller side of every one of these questions or attempts in the last few months (and probably a few more than we listed).

Jun 12, 2012 11:05 AM
Marilyn Boudreaux
Marilyn Boudreaux, Century 21 Bono Realty - Lake Charles, LA
Lake Charles LA Century 21 Realtor

great subject --just addressed this with buyers who wrote 2 offers on a home, seller rejected both and one was a full price offer less $5,000 in closing.   Seller did not even counter and home has been on the market 228 days.  Funny sellers agent called me yesterday and said he has considered working with these buyers only problem is contract is expired and buyers are back in TN---shoulda woulda coulda...

Jun 12, 2012 11:25 AM
Endre Barath, Jr.
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices California Properties - Beverly Hills, CA
Realtor - Los Angeles Home Sales 310.486.1002

Liz & Bill we have noticed that now it is a seller's market in my area for the past few months, but many buyers still do not believe us:))

Jun 12, 2012 02:51 PM
Tom Arstingstall, General Contractor, Dry Rot, Water Damage Sacramento, El Dorado County - (916) 765-5366
Dry Rot and Water Damage www.tromlerconstruction.com Mobile - 916-765-5366 - Placerville, CA
General Contractor, Dry Rot and Water Damage

I think I have overheard most of these questions in the last few months. Thanks to people like you Bliz, I feel like an informed eaves-dropper.

Great post!

Jun 12, 2012 05:16 PM
Liz and Bill Spear
Transaction Alliance 513.520.5305 www.LizTour.com - Mason, OH
Transaction Alliance Cincinnati & Dayton suburbs

Marilyn, We always recommend a seller to at least counter, even if it reiterates the full price.  At least try to keep the negotiations going.  To us it's not the intial offer that tells you what the buyer is made of, but their 2nd response.

Endre, Trouble is the major news outlets will still have them believe that.  They have to find the locally oriented news from agents' blogs, but then they probably want to believe we're biased.  Their loss when they fail to get homes because they don't truly understand the local market.

Tom, Some of these viewpoints definitely hinder the ability to purchase.  Thinking you can deduct for desired upgrades is a common stumbling block.

Jun 12, 2012 08:14 PM
Ginny Gorman
RI Real Estate Services ~ 401-529-7849~ RI Waterfront Real Estate - North Kingstown, RI
Homes for Sale in Southern RI and beyond

BLiz, isn't it amazing i keep saying when my buyer says to me well i want to offer $50k lower than market price...no I say it won't work ...their answer well it's been on the market 100 days its time for them to get real.  Buyers don't understand there is a MARKET price for every house & that the advice you give will get them a home...crazy offers will not work.

Jun 12, 2012 08:54 PM
Beth and Richard Witt
New York, NY
The best Retired Brokers !!!!

I love your response to each and every questions...  You guys have a great day...

Jun 12, 2012 09:24 PM
Toni Weidman
Sailwinds Realty - Trinity, FL
20+ Years Selling Homes in New Port Richey, FL

All of that is so true. I had a home on the market that got two offers the same night - we had a bidding war -something I haven't seen since 2005 and the best terms won! I'm suggesting this great post.

Jun 12, 2012 10:07 PM
Liz and Bill Spear
Transaction Alliance 513.520.5305 www.LizTour.com - Mason, OH
Transaction Alliance Cincinnati & Dayton suburbs

Ginny, And the buyers need to understand typical days on market too.  I read about areas where it's a few days and multiple offers.  Here, we expect months, and occasionally over a year or more depending on the complexity of the listing (e.g. pond, ranch with stairs, historical cemetery next door and busy road out front).  Time doesn't necessarily equate to desperation.  They may have already been through negotiations several times without coming to terms.

Beth & Richard, Thanks!  Part of our job is popping some of the real estate myth balloons.

Toni, Don't you love it when that happens?  Just went multiples on a listing that had been on the market about 4 months :)

Jun 12, 2012 10:25 PM
Kathryn Maguire
GreatNorfolkHomes.com (757) 560-0881 - Chesapeake, VA
Serving Chesapeake, Norfolk, VA Beach

For some buyers, it takes a few rejected offers for them to get realistic about the market and what it takes to go from contract writer to home owner.

Jun 12, 2012 11:03 PM
Liz and Bill Spear
Transaction Alliance 513.520.5305 www.LizTour.com - Mason, OH
Transaction Alliance Cincinnati & Dayton suburbs

Kathryn, You always hope when it's your buyer that we can get them calibrated to the process right with the first offer.  But like you said, some just have to try, and they learn.  If they want to keep trying for the steal home after home we have to decide if we want to keep working with them.  We might right LOTS of offers, yet never actually get one to closing.

Jun 12, 2012 11:06 PM