Refinancing with no closing costs.  How does that work?  Can you start saving today?

 

First of all, nothing in a mortgage transaction is free.  When a loan is refinanced, there are services rendered and the providers need to be paid.  So, for the most part, when refinancing a first mortgage to a new first mortgage, nothing is truly free.  The costs are paid by someone and ultimately you, by virtue of a slightly higher interest rate. 

Now, if today you could get a lower rate of say, 5.75% with you paying all of the costs, then I can probably do it and pay those costs for you at 6% or 6.125%, provided your loan amount is $200, 000 or better.  The lower the loan amount, the harder it is for me to pay the costs due to the lower revenue. 

So the bottom line is this.  You will always get the lowest rate when YOU pay the cost.  If cost is an issue however, and you can still get a lower rate with me paying the costs, what's to lose?  There are more considerations for sure, but this is the nut and bolts of the decision point: To pay costs or not to pay costs and let Jim pay them.  That is the questiona and if you call me, we can investigate to see what if anything works for you now.  If it is a prudent move to refinance, I will tell you.  If it is not, I will tell you that too!

 

6 Comments on Refinancing No Closing Cost vs Closing Costs

JAN
10
2008
130,310 Points Outside Blog
I agree it is just what is coming out of your pocket at the table is what most want to know. They do not want to give up cash is what I believe it is all about. They are willing to finance the closing costs and probably will be out of the loan in less than 10 years and into a new home loan.
3:42pm • #1
130,310 Points Outside Blog
I agree it is just what is coming out of your pocket at the table is what most want to know. They do not want to give up cash is what I believe it is all about. They are willing to finance the closing costs and probably will be out of the loan in less than 10 years and into a new home loan.
3:42pm • #2
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Jim, I agree most of the time it is better to pay the closing costs. In many cases some costs might even be tax deductible.
3:48pm • #3
Hey Jim.  Like the topic and your take on the paid closing cost scenario.  Funny story.  A good friend of mine came to me for financing and I got him an amazing rate on an investor refi, something like 6.375%.  A few days later, he called me and told me that he had found a lender that had absolutely NO CLOSING COSTS and it would save him $4000-$5000.  I told him I was 100% behind him and was all about saving him money and if I were him, I'd check it out.  3 days later, he came back.  They offered him a rate of 8.375%.  But heck, no closing costs.  What a deal.  Like you said Jim, we're all getting paid.  It's our job to get paid in the most ethical and mutually beneficial manner.  Talk with you soon!
4:29pm • #4
JAN
11
2008
MIKE!   I like the way you think, brother!  You know, if people really knew who we were, there would be no question that they would ALWAYS trust us with their business!  Alas...everyone seems to be looking for an angle.  Have a great weekend!
2:22pm • #5
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This is common sense.  It amazes me that people don't get it.  I actually give my clients both scenarios and give them the rate sheet that I'm quoting from with the different sets of numbers highlighted.

That way they know that there are no secrets!

4:00pm • #6

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